I ran across this on E-Bay, is this for real? Or are there any problems that aren't mentioned? It looks to good to be true. I mean, if this is possible , whay hasn't anyone here mentioned it before. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=477707703

Let me know what you all think.

Late, BAM OUT!

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Don B.
85GT
Eibach Springs/KYB shocks and struts
Mr.Mikes 500 series seats, Carpet and headliner! MOMO Commando Steering Wheel, White Face Race Style Guages And Soon To Be More!!! YEAH BABY-YEAH

Sounds like a hoax to me. There's no way you can safely bore and stroke a 2.8 to 3.4 litres, you won't have much of a cylinder wall left. I bet they're getting 3.4 litre block out of the junkyard, cleaning them and doing any necessary machine work. You should be able to get a complete, running, low mileage 3.4 for $875..

" This means that you do not have to make any modifications to your engine bay or engine mounts to make the new engine fit. Plus, you bolt your own 2.8 Stock Heads and Intake to this Short Block, and everything works!"

I find that statement kind of funny, because a 3.4 block is pretty much exactly the same as a 2.8/3.1 block, only stronger. Why would you want to keep a weaker block?

Sounds like they're trying to sell an unnecessary service, IMHO...

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Mike -
Black 86.5 GT 5 Spd, 151,000 miles and counting!
Red 84 Sport Coupe - winter donut maker

I agree, boring a 2.8 to fit a 3.4 piston will leave the cylinder walls too thin. One accidental time the engine over heats you are done. You could get a 3.4L out of a junkyard with low miles for the same price or less. and it's still a "drop-in" engine.
(except for moving the starter)

Thanks guy's. I kind of had a feeling about that due to previous post's that I've read. There are some good deals around here on some low milage 3.4L engines so I guess I'll just have to be patient. What's the deal with the flex plate? Doesn't that also have to be changed? Anyway, Thanks again.

Later, BAM OUT!

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Don B.
85GT
Eibach Springs/KYB shocks and struts
Mr.Mikes 500 series seats, Carpet and headliner! MOMO Commando Steering Wheel, White Face Race Style Guages And Soon To Be More!!! YEAH BABY-YEAH

Wait a minute! Maybe what they do is take out your old cylinder sleeves and insert new bigger ones. Should send them an email and ask.

I sent an email asking about the bore and whether or not they are resleeving these blocks. This is there response.

"Todd,

Thanks for your interest. To answer your question, we do a few
modifications to the block in order to make this conversion work well. All
blocks for this conversion are sonic tested prior to being built to ensure
proper cylinder wall integrity. We have tested them both in-house and on
the road, and they are a reliable engine that have the power and
displacement of a 3.4L engine, while maintaining the same size/weight ratio
and motor mount location as your original engine. Thank you,

David Anderson"

To me, it sounds like another viable alternative to getting mo power. Price isn't too bad either for something that has all new internals and the kind of work that is done to it. Price out these parts seperate, then add what your time is worth, and it make the price seem fair.

Just thought I'd pass on the info
TL

I E-Mailed them also, and this is Dave andesons response.

Donald,

Let's see if I can answer all your questions. First, we believe this is a reliable increase, or else we would not be selling it. After modifications are made, each block is sonic tested to insure proper cylinder wall integrity, and just to let you know, the cylinder wall thickness after machine work is done is still thicker than a bored-out small block Chevy. The 2.8 and 3.4 block are different in many ways, so to say that a 3.4 is just a beefier 2.8 is a little off. We have not found any heating problems with the 2.8-to-3.4's that we have sold and tested. I also have a 2.8-3.1 conversion engine kit on ebay that comes with detailed instructions (including pictures) that gives you an increase in displacement, horsepwer, and torque if you are worried about the 3.4 conversion. The cost either on ebay or off is $875.00 for the 2.8-3.4 shortblock conversion, and $495.00 for the 2.8-3.1 conversion engine kit. If you are located close enough to us and would like to return your shortblock core, that is possible and a core return will be given to you if the core is good. I am attaching a list of cams that are available for this engine. There are more radical cams available, however, for your application, I think one of these would be the best choice. We have done a few of these for your year Fiero, and people have been happy with the results. Please let me know if I can answer any more questions. Thanks,

David Anderson

The guy is consistant. Maybe the Fiero community has a new friend

Late, BAM OUT!

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Don B.
85GT
Eibach Springs/KYB shocks and struts
Mr.Mikes 500 series seats, Carpet and headliner! MOMO Commando Steering Wheel, White Face Race Style Guages And Soon To Be More!!! YEAH BABY-YEAH

I also checked into this. But i called earlier this afternoon. The rep on the phone seems very confident that this was safe and also a good alternetive. But he was also very vauge with how they do it. He said he is protecting his interests, because they are the only ones who know how to do this as of yet. Apparently only a very small percentage of 2.8 blocks will work with this conversion. He sorta blew me off, but it still has peaked my interest. He also said they don't have dyno figures yet, but thats because thier dyno has just be recalibrated for smaller discplacement engines. Again he would not give any details as to how they accomplish this, and also stated they are sort of in a shortage of blocks. I understand thier interest in keeping this thier product, but i wish i could have got some more specific info. Just my findings. Thanks for the space
Tim

Specifics would be nice.
Like the bore and stroke specs...

Some questions though...
Recalibrate the dyno to smaller displacement engines?

I agree with Mike, the 3.4 block is a vast improvement on the 2.8 in many ways. Even if you get the specs of a 3.4 you are still dealing with a weaker block than the 3.4.

2.8 to 3.1 conversion kit? Why don't you just buy a 3.1 crank?

sonic testing?? maybe i'm a little out of touch with the new engine building techniques. magnaflux anyone??