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Speedometer Decal??? by Fret Naught
Started on: 07-05-2001 06:14 PM
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Report this Post07-05-2001 06:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fret NaughtSend a Private Message to Fret NaughtDirect Link to This Post
Been a long long time since I have posted, but, I know where to come when I am stumped.
I have a 150MPH speedo, I can't see it at night, because it appears to be a decal that has bubbled. I took it apart today, and sure enough DECAL, so I peeled it off, and underneath, I have a typical 85 MPH gage. I check under the hood and my option code says D7W (gear, speedometer driven) I pulled the sensor at the transmisson, and the gear is blue, 30 teeth. The problem is, now my gage is obviouly way way off it reads 30 I am doing appx. 55 I don't know what the previous owner did, was the gear changed to accomadate the decal? did they modify the gage pod electronically? anybody ever heard of a 150 MPH speedometer conversion kit? Any suggestions would be very very helpful.
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Report this Post07-05-2001 06:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Steve NormingtonSend a Private Message to Steve NormingtonDirect Link to This Post
I'm working from memory here, so your milage may vary. There is no difference in the speed sensor or gearing between 85, 120, or 150 mph. The difference is in the capacitors/resistors on the gage itself. I have both an 85 and 120 removed if you want me to give you the values, let me know.
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Report this Post07-05-2001 06:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fret NaughtSend a Private Message to Fret NaughtDirect Link to This Post
That would be great, I sort of thought that might be the case, if it isn't too much trouble. I will take your values and run with them! I was even considering going to a junk yard and doing a little research, closest one is 50 miles away,
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Report this Post07-05-2001 08:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DecadenceRClick Here to visit DecadenceR's HomePageSend a Private Message to DecadenceRDirect Link to This Post
This may not be much of a help, but my gears for an 85 speedo are white....
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Report this Post07-05-2001 09:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fret NaughtSend a Private Message to Fret NaughtDirect Link to This Post
I have been thinking about this all afternoon, perhaps I am going about this all the wrong way, Maybe what I need to do is just get a new Decal, does anyone know where I might be able to get one? This is a 150 MPH decal, not a 120MPH one.
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Report this Post07-07-2001 07:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hobbittSend a Private Message to hobbittDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Steve Normington:
I'm working from memory here, so your milage may vary. There is no difference in the speed sensor or gearing between 85, 120, or 150 mph. The difference is in the capacitors/resistors on the gage itself. I have both an 85 and 120 removed if you want me to give you the values, let me know.

I'd like to have those values if nobody else says it
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Report this Post07-07-2001 08:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mach10Send a Private Message to Mach10Direct Link to This Post
Decadence: My understanding is that the different gears represent the different tranny/final drive/wheel/oem tire combos...
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Report this Post07-09-2001 03:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WaltRSend a Private Message to WaltRDirect Link to This Post
IRM sells a kit to convert an 85mph speedo to a 150mph one. I believe the kit contains a decal for the face and a crystal with a different frequency. I remember an old post sometime ago that said how to figure the frequency for different speed ranges.
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Report this Post07-09-2001 04:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Joe TormaClick Here to visit Joe Torma's HomePageSend a Private Message to Joe TormaDirect Link to This Post
The crystal apparently changes the stepper frequency in the guage....the magic number(so I've read) is 534. 534/max speedo=cystal freq.

I haven't installed my conversion yet so I don't know if it works(read on't blame me if your speedo blows up or something).

I am redoing my dash and making my guages silver faced and my speedo to go up to 220mph(hey, maybe with a hurricane force tailwind ). Desiging the guage face is the worst part.

The Fiero Store has whiteface guages.

Joe
'86 SE 3400series, 300hp

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Report this Post07-09-2001 04:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for terrykSend a Private Message to terrykDirect Link to This Post
If only the face is changed, then only the scaling of the meter face needs changing.

You can change the face scaling by finding the xxxx4339 chip (25594339?) in the speedo. This is a meter driver chip.

Cut the traces to pins 5 and 8. If you follow them, there is a capacitor across these pins too. Remember this point.

Solder a 50K pot across these pins. This will now allow you to adjust the full scale reading of the face. You can label the face just about anything you want. Adjust the pot so the needle reads correctly. Adjust it at the highest speed possible since it will increase the accuracy below that.

If the needle tends to jumps around or flutter at a stop, solder that cap across pins 5 and 8.

This means that us in Los Estados Unitos can take metric 180 kph faces and make them read in MPH. Looks factory. Blank out the 0-85 centers.

This method leaves the odo's reading correctly and doesn't require any changes to VSS gears (assuming they are the correct gears in the first place).

If you've done a trans swap and the VSS signals are way off, there is a simple circuit that can be made to make the speedo and odo's read correctly.

TK

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