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Headliner Repair - Is It Possible? by MyYellowFiero
Started on: 07-11-2003 03:14 PM
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Report this Post07-11-2003 03:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MyYellowFieroSend a Private Message to MyYellowFieroDirect Link to This Post
Sorry - another question! :0

The headliner in the fiero is sagging a bit on both the driver and passenger sides. Otherwise it is in great condition. It's almost $200.00 for a new one, and (not to be cheap) I'd really like to keep the car as original as possible. I'd rather fix it myself if I can. Has anyone here successfully repaired one that sags? Could I possibly take it out, and use a spray adhesive to re-attach it? Just curious, before I buy one. Thank in advance!

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Report this Post07-11-2003 03:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GT86Send a Private Message to GT86Direct Link to This Post
If it's sagging, that's it, time for a new one . The foam on the backside of the material disintegrates over time, causing the fabric to sag. But all you need to do is buy some new material (fabric stores, auto parts stores, and upholstery shops all sell it). Your headliner backing board (the thing the fabric is glued to) is most likely reusable. If it's cracked, all you need to do is buy some fiberglass resin and reinforce the cracks. Check out this section of PFF: https://www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin/main.cgi?RecoveringHeadliner

Or do a search for 'headliner'. You can get the material for $10-$30 depending on where you buy it. If needed, fiberglass resin is under $10. Takes a few hours to do, but much cheaper than buying a new one from places like the Fiero Store. And even that one needs to be covered. If I remember right, it's just the naked fiberglass backing board. And the end result looks great, just like stock if you get the same (or close) color material.

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Report this Post07-11-2003 03:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Firefighter1Send a Private Message to Firefighter1Direct Link to This Post
The answer is yes!!!!!
I have successfully reattached the headliner using a 3 M product. No its not the usual spray adhesive stuff. But,I'm at work now and don't remember the exact name of the product. When I get home I'll send you a PM with details. Your biggest problem is the side door moldings, they're a buster to
reattach if you are not super careful.
Message in a few hours. This stuff really works.

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Report this Post07-11-2003 04:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 862M4inCASend a Private Message to 862M4inCADirect Link to This Post
When I purchased a leather kit from Mr. Mikes he included a can of heavy duty spray adhesive that just might work to reattach the fabric to the foam backing. You'll want to use it sparingly to avoid having it "bleed" through the cloth and cause any discoloring. The can is blue and black with green writing. The label says "MISTY Heavy Duty Spray Adhesive" and the back says it's manufactured by amrep. They only have a phone number for medical information, but there is an address for the company at 990 Industrial Park Drive, Marietta, GA 30062. This stuff is REAL strong (glued my fingers together when they accidentally got in the path of the spray) and a little goes a long way.
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Report this Post07-11-2003 04:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KohburnSend a Private Message to KohburnDirect Link to This Post
hmm leather headliner..
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Report this Post07-11-2003 05:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
I bought the material from the Fiero Store and took it to a headliner shop. They recovered the whole orange sticky mess for $25. The best investment I have ever made.
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Report this Post07-11-2003 05:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 862M4inCASend a Private Message to 862M4inCADirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Kohburn:

hmm leather headliner..

Nope, no leather headliner here....have diamond tuck style.....I was just saying that the stuff Mr. Mike includes with his leather seat kit works excellect on foam and is probably going to be the best and cheapest way to retain the original headliner cloth.

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Report this Post07-11-2003 05:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MyYellowFieroSend a Private Message to MyYellowFieroDirect Link to This Post
Well, thank you! It's good to know that there is hope! I'm so eager to get started on the car! I pick it up from the mechanic this afternoon. *NEVER going back to mechanic*

Time is dragging by and I'm all giddy. LOL My husband tells me "stop worrying!" I've been telling him that for YEARS with his car - and now we've reversed roles! Too funny!

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Report this Post07-11-2003 07:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for StuGoodSend a Private Message to StuGoodDirect Link to This Post
This is probably kind of obvious... but keep in mind that, if you decide to re-do the headliner, you can take the backing board out, and still drive the car (sans headliner) while it's being worked on.

...in other words, you can take your time with the job, and you'll not have to suffer "Fiero withdrawal" for the duration.

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Report this Post07-11-2003 07:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Firefighter1Send a Private Message to Firefighter1Direct Link to This Post
MyYellowFiero - you have a PM
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Report this Post07-11-2003 10:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MyYellowFieroSend a Private Message to MyYellowFieroDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Firefighter1:

MyYellowFiero - you have a PM

Thank you, Firefighter1!

I got the PM - but for some reason I get an error when I try to respond. I just wanted to say thank you! My husband and I have decided to try your method and if all goes well, I will be posting before and after shots for everyone to see. I've got the car back now, so I'm going to go slobber on it a bit more! LOL Thank you again!

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Report this Post07-11-2003 11:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
Headliner material replacement is possible but it will take a few hours to do the job correctly. In short, the dome light, rearview mirror, visors, coat hooks, third brake light, seatbelt guide bolts, rear interior panels, and interiro window panels must be removed. Then the headliner can be GENTLY removed from the interior. They are usually brittle and break easily so take your time, try not to bend any part of it and remove it carefully. AFter the headliner board is out , it must be stripped of all of the old foam material. I use a wire brush to scrub the boead clean of all loose foam then blow it clean. If there are no rips of tears new med gray headliner material can be glued to the headliner board using 3M SUPER trim adhesive. Don't use the standard trim adhesive as it will not stand up to the extreme interior heat in summer.
Figure three to four hours work to do this job. My average is about three hours and most of that time is usually spent cleaning and repairing the headliner board and then gluing the headliner naterial to it.

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Report this Post07-11-2003 11:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AussiekenSend a Private Message to AussiekenDirect Link to This Post
I recovered my headliner with a vinyl fabric that looks like suede. The headliner board looked a little fragile so I coated it with fireglass resin to stiffen it up first
(takes a litre ). I made the mistake of using domestic grade contact adhesive to stick the fabric on and it fell down within a month. I had to do it again with motor trimmer's glue and it's been fine since. Trouble with using another fabric is that you have to recover the sun visors as well and that's a hard job to get right. But the result, in my opinion, is much better than cloth.
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