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2.0 ecotech SC by skidpro1
Started on: 10-03-2004 08:46 PM
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Report this Post10-03-2004 08:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for skidpro1Send a Private Message to skidpro1Direct Link to This Post
It's coming out soon or has already!! This is the 2.0 with the supercharger a 2.2 is also available no supercharger. These are GM H.P. crate motors. Oh ya 205 H.P. Is an adaptor plate needed with this motor?
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Report this Post10-03-2004 11:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback 86Send a Private Message to Fastback 86Direct Link to This Post
fieroturbo is working on an EcoTech swap and looking into making kits. He's the one to ask. He has a build thread, but I can't find it at the moment.
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Report this Post10-04-2004 01:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroturboSend a Private Message to fieroturboDirect Link to This Post
Hi !!!

Feel free to e-mail me with any questions.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/045570.html

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Report this Post10-04-2004 08:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PhilphineSend a Private Message to PhilphineDirect Link to This Post
i have to find the mag, but i saw it as part of a list of available crate engines. they had it rated at 285hp. i'll hunt it up later.
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Report this Post10-04-2004 08:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for skidpro1Send a Private Message to skidpro1Direct Link to This Post
At the GM crate motor web site they have the 2.0 SC ecotech listed for 3600.00 and the 2.2 at 1900.00. Still need to know if this motor needs an adaptor and what ecm you would use?
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THis is what I found, 205 Horsepower @ 5600 RPM and 200 lb-ft @ 4000 RPM torque
• This engine powers the Saturn ION Redline, this is the 2.0 SC crate motor.
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Report this Post10-04-2004 05:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback 86Send a Private Message to Fastback 86Direct Link to This Post
Check out the link fieroturbo posted to his build. As best I recall, yes, it does require an adapter for the transmission.
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Report this Post10-04-2004 06:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PhilphineSend a Private Message to PhilphineDirect Link to This Post
well, now i can't find the mag. i don't think it was directly from gm though. maybe scoggin-dickie(sp)? i may not have the name right. it was in one of the hot rod type mags from last month. mainly a list of v8 engines but this was throw in there with them.
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Report this Post10-05-2004 02:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroturboSend a Private Message to fieroturboDirect Link to This Post
For the thick headed ones in this topic... here's the link again to answer your questions.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/045570.html

Yes it does need an adapter plate, the Ecotec's ECM is built into the wiring harness, but I personally am going with a stand alone ECM, simply because of the power amounts I'm aiming for. Plus my Fiero's stock electrical system is messed up :P

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Report this Post10-05-2004 09:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WichitaSend a Private Message to WichitaDirect Link to This Post
Hey Turbo. You are going all the way and building up your Ecotec. What do you think it would take just to put in a bone stock 2.2 Ecotec on the standard Isuzu 5-speed?

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Report this Post10-05-2004 02:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroturboSend a Private Message to fieroturboDirect Link to This Post
The main things it would take are custom motor mounts and the adapter plate. I believe a flexplate spacer is needed for automatic versions, but that's an easy one. The guy who made my adapter also can make those.

The harness that comes with the motor is needed, and it has the ECM on it, plus there's odds and ends, such as modding the throttle linkage, (will require a new bracket by the TB), and there's all the fuel and water lines too, but that's what flexble braided steel hose is for.

For the water lines, since there isn't a thermostat housing on the Eco, an in-line t-joint with a cap on it will be needed to fill coolant back by the motor, but those are available from Jegs.

For those that have flushed the coolant system in a Fiero before, you'll know that you have to fill the coolant up front AND in back, otherwise, it won't work.

With the Ecotec, A/C will work in my car for sure, because I converted to R-134 in 2002. Unless the Fiero's stock A/C compressor miraculously fits, which I doubt it will, then no dice on R-12. I will try and see if my duke's compressor fits at some point.
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Like I said... kit in progress. Patience is a virtue.

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Report this Post10-06-2004 11:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WichitaSend a Private Message to WichitaDirect Link to This Post
Being very very patient.

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I want an Ecotec NOW!

I'll wait!

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Report this Post10-07-2004 12:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for skidpro1Send a Private Message to skidpro1Direct Link to This Post
Because of the light wieght and proven potential of this motor and it's growing aftermarket I can only see a big upside in the swap!!
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Report this Post10-07-2004 08:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroturboSend a Private Message to fieroturboDirect Link to This Post
The Ecotec, assembled with all accessories, is 305lbs. No power steering pump in a Fiero's case, so about 300lbs. The block by itself is 69lbs.

Anyone know the weight of a duke, fully assembled?

Reguardless, the estimates I have currently place the weight balance of the car at 49/51 (front/rear) with the Ecotec in there, and the battery relocated up front, along with the car's weight dropping from 2560lbs into the 2400lb range.

I'm sure you all know the benefits of lighter vehicle, and also a better balanced vehicle;

Better braking, better handling, better traction, better tire wear, better acceleration, better fuel mileage, etc.

Plus, the motor is so new (well, to the US it is), it's only going to become more abundant in the salvage yards, and get cheaper in price.

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Report this Post10-07-2004 08:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ralpySend a Private Message to ralpyDirect Link to This Post
Here's a source for the EcoTech that looks interesting.

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http://www.turnkeyenginesupply.com/22290.html

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Report this Post10-07-2004 09:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for LoW_KeYSend a Private Message to LoW_KeYDirect Link to This Post
They have it currently in the saturn ion redline. As many company's have been doing lately the motor is a touch under rated, it's been proven to make 197 HP at the wheels

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Report this Post10-07-2004 04:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroturboSend a Private Message to fieroturboDirect Link to This Post
Um, yeah. Ralpy, that turbo Ecotec isn't too loved by the J-body community. The lack of a blow-off valve turns alot of people off.

Seriously, it's stupid to not have one. Not having one only shortens the life of the turbo, and the car sounds less cool without that "pssshhst" sound.

Edit* Companies under-rate the power to reduce insurance costs. IE, less horsepower, less of a liability the car is to the insurance theives... I.. I mean companies

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