Eh all just thinking here.maybe be i should explain!

As i am still working and doing my V12 engine i cant stop thinking of all other things(yeah yeah screwed in the head)

Now for r fiero , some r looking for the right or perfect goal,,i really do think all DOHC engine fit in what i want,,,since i cant find any northstars,i will keep my thoughts on the 3.4

I love the automats but i cant stop thinking of a manual trans,,since the engine and trans fit transverse,,,and room for better exhaust and twin turbo's suffer,so the only other way i am thinking of is going long with the engine.Lately i have been stumbling on all kinds of audi manuals trans ranging from 100 euro to 700....it really got the gears moving,,,,

Questions now the fiero has 2 firewalls,,so what would happen if i remove the firewall in the bay to open it up and how much in inchs will it give?

What is the length of the 3.4DOHC from the water pump pulley to the bellhousing?

I am still thinking it might be a very tight fit ,so i think i have to cut and open the wheelbase open abit more for a inch or so (i can allways get Fie Ro to make body ipanels to fill in the gaps )

wheelbase's fiero 93.4
F-40 96.5 (with V8)
F-50 101.6 (with V12)

now i do know the driver seats in the fiero r more pushed back compared to the higher end sports cars...

Thx

oh WTH i will give a bump

With absolutely no offense intended, I read through your post a couple times and still have no idea what you're planning or what you're asking. I just can't make any sense of what you're trying to say.

If you summarize and write a little more clearly you may get some more responses.

Doug

I believe what he is asking for is the length of the 3.4DOHC from the water pump pulley to the bellhousing. His other question, I belive, was how many inches would it yield for engine and trans room if the trunk wall was cut out? In response to that, don't forget it's a major load bearing structure. (Don't have the measurements)

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Eh all,,,ok i get that it is a major load bearing structure...

ok so removing the rear firewall is out of the question..so the next idea in line would to be moving the motor back..

just for a sec lets look at the rear wheel drive pic here..

the driveshaft is tilted down a few degree's and offset to the left side...

now on the transverse auto or manual trans the shafts r straight at the wheels but if i go to the long way trans(like ferrari and lambo) can i offset the halfshafts like in the cheap pic that i made and will it work?

Free Bump!

D'oh! Guess I jumped the gun by a couple seconds.

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I'm thinking your picture is a plan view (looking down from straight above) perhaps an archaic transmission from a Saab would work.
Look to the 99s or probably the ancient 95,96,&97s. Match up would be a BI~CH, shift linkage and clutch would be a challenge (to say the least) and your trunk just might hold a couple bowling balls and a laptop (if your lucky). Probably not the 99 or 900 transmissions.
if I remember right the tranny also served part duty as the oilpan, but I'm not sure.

Norm

If you want to go longitudal with an audi trans why not get the engine too?! Get the 2.7 biturbo and slap some bigger turbo's on With the quattro trans you could only use the front driveshafts and ditch the rear one. You might have to cut the lower part of the trunk because these transmission are quite long. Only the upper part of the trunk firewall has the reinforcements, the lower part is only sheet metal and is easy to cut.

edit: pic of a cut trunk firewall (did this to get the engine out of my old wrecked gt)

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LOL,,,Fie Ro about time u droped in,,,

Eh Norm no it is not the saab trans,,,,the trans i looking at is the audi..i guess dutch people cant drive because there r allways new cars just wrecked

I was thinking more of the DOHC 3.4 V6 hooked up to the audi trans and run it long in the rear,,but the engine bay is small,, the answers i am looking for is that can i run the halfshafts at angle like in the pic without running into problems?

Found this one some time ago, but I think I will go 3800SC route and pass on...some info from the mails:

IN VOORRAAD 3.4 24 VALVE 1998 MET 50000 KM.
GEHEEL COMPLEET MET ELECTR. DRAADBOOM ENZ.
2500 EURO
BEST REG. BERNIE
----- Original Message -----
From: DMD
To: acrvdberg@zeelandnet.nl

10th vin is '''v'' 1997.
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I guess the angled axles could work as long as the angle doesn't exceed the stock vertical angles....

It would be fun if we could meet one of these days, I am curious about your plans and I like to show mine

The reason the Saab was mentioned, ... Is that the engine is almost on top of the Trans. & they're longitudinal in the earlier 99s & 900s, I had a 97 once but the V4 hung off the front, and those shifted like "stirring an ice bucket w/ a broom handle".
Sorry they're not an option.

Best of fortune ... Norm

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No No ,,no problem here Norm,,,i just had no idea that saab had that,,,i am just know of the guys at work that have saabs and they r all transverse'd engines and trans,,,but hey this is what a forum is all about and thx for ur input

Need DOHC ? Have 2 complete engines with 4T60E, wiring, ECM and correct length drive axels (1 set).
Also have 1 new crate engine!
All documentation you need to do the swap is there....
Buy all or nothing at all, send me pm if you are serious about this and want to know more.
Also have getrag 5spd transmission (88) with only 35kmls, not sold seperately.

Hmm i am scared to ask,,,lately every time i ask it cost me a few kids...

well as today i am sicker then a dog...dam flu

so i was laying around the house and as always thinking..i think i answered the question myself (because no one did yet)

i really do think in some way it will work,,,but thats it yes it will work but i dont think it will handle of what i was goning to do,,Picture this..3.4 mated to a audi trans and have a ton of room to fad a gr8 3 into 1 exhaust system per bank to install twin turbo's maybe even throw in a custom made intake idea i made up...grabing the Haltech Ecm i was saving for the V12...yes i am sure this little dutch puppy will rock but as i take it out for its very first road test,,pull away easy through first then hammer it into second,, bang axles snap like wet noodles

thinking at the angles the halfshafts r sitting at the needle bearings either end will bust.i can see them taking the load straight on but not any side load..dam that suckz

From bellhousing face to crank pulley, my TDC short block is 22 inches.
Because of the timing drive and power steering pump location, it maintains that length to a height of ~16 inches above the crank centerline.

Because it's a conversion from pushrod, the timing drive is fairly bulky. It might be easier to use the Audi V6, since it was designed DOHC from the get-go and will probably be more compact in general.

As far as CV joint angle... Have you figured out how much angle you'll need? Figure that out first and then we'll look at how hard it will be on your CV joints.
Also, the are offroad products that can take extreme deflections... those may be worth looking into as well.

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what can i say,,,holy cow,,thank you for some gr8 info