Yes, Another 4.9 build thread. I have a huge pile o' new parts and just got some back from American Powder Coatings and the exhaust manifolds back from the ceramic coater Performance Coatings. First Pic. More to come.

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

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Wow, those parts look good! Good luck with the swap.

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Bottle Fed 4.9 V8 5 Speed
I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol.

The shifter is Rodney Dickman's Competition Short-Throw Shifter. The Shift ball is from www.flameball.com

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

Starting to install parts! Should have some time this weekend to get more done.
My cradle is painted and ready and I cleaned the Isuzu trans with the wifes steam cleaner.

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

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Hey man-----very nice job! Make sure and install a new water pump *before* the engine goes in the car.
What hat is that? I hate my whole caddy hat-thingy---

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Proud Member of the DOWN SOUTH SUNNY WINTER drive your Fiero Naked Coalition.

85 4.9SE 4T60E Parks harness/ Rockcrawl chip-- No I do not want to race!

Oh my GAWD! What a beautiful thing to wake up to! Questions:

1) Is that a chrome distributor cap? Where did you get it?
2) How hard was it to disassemble your alternator?
3) Where did you get the front valve cover breather?
4) Which car are your exhaust manifolds from?

Thanks! Awesome job!

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-Rick Stewart
85GT 4.9V8/Isuzu 5-spd in progress...

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I beleive this may be the best looking 4.9 out there.

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-Chris -
Custom Gun Metal 86 GT 4.9 V8 5spd

Build up tread or MODS w/ Pics

Two questions (by the way, it looks great)
1. Is that the Dodge Ram intake? Where did you get it and did you have to modify it?
2. Where did you find that valve cover breather filter? I went around town looking for something to fit the stock location on the valve cover, but didn't find anything.

Thanks.

quote Originally posted by GT: Oh my GAWD! What a beautiful thing to wake up to! Questions: 1) Is that a chrome distributor cap? Where did you get it? 2) How hard was it to disassemble your alternator? 3) Where did you get the front valve cover breather? 4) Which car are your exhaust manifolds from? Thanks! Awesome job!

I know these
1. That is a Clear Cap
4. Deville
I think this one is
3. Accessory isle at pep boys.

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4.9 Caddy ON CRADLE in Garage! Car in Driveway! ACK!

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If the car is the same colour as the valve covers, this is going to look really nice - or as the guys in the Dodge Ram commercial say...SWAAAYT.

1) Is that a chrome distributor cap? Where did you get it?

It is a clear Mr. Gasket cap from Summit. I had to replace the spring loaded L shaped hold downs with the screws from the old cap.

2) How hard was it to disassemble your alternator?

I did not take it apart, just used masking tape to cover the aluminum parts

3) Where did you get the front valve cover breather?

I found it at AutoZone they also had them in Red and Blue. I had to add a grommet from the HELP! section, also the source for the 90 deg.PVC valve holder and the plug on the air cleaner hat and on the waterline.

4) Which car are your exhaust manifolds from?

My engine is from a DeVille but the exhaust manifolds were off the front of two Eldorados
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/057155.html

The Air Cleaner is from ebay for a Yukon but I replaced the blue rubber connector with a 3" connector from the plumbing section at Home Depot
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7953390312&category=38634

Thanks for the nice replies, I will keep posting as I make progress, and Yes the car will be Orange, found a custom mixed DuPont color that looks like the orange on a Lotus Elise. Mr. Mike's Super Sports black with orange welts and matching leather door covers coming soon.

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

quote Originally posted by fourpoint9: Starting to install parts! Should have some time this weekend to get more done. My cradle is painted and ready and I cleaned the Isuzu trans with the wifes steam cleaner.

Sharp looking engine.... Makes me want to pull mine out and redo mine

I sure do like those fuel lines! Someone twisted mine up like a pretzel---DOH!

quote Originally posted by jeffndebrus: I sure do like those fuel lines! Someone twisted mine up like a pretzel---DOH!

Yeah, I had to go back to the wrecking yard to get a second set after messing up the pair that came with the motor.

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

Impressive looking. Thanks for sharing the pics. I am looking forward to seing pics of it in the car now.

Pete

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fourpoint9-

Thanks for the info on the clear cap. I got one from Summit. The coil looks clear as well, or maybe silver. Where did you get that?

-Rick

Fourpoint9 --- I have a throttle body hat like yours that I bought off Ebay also. But did you have to use a spacer to clear the throttle body? If so , what did you use?
Looks great !!! I like the orange !!!!

I modified the hat with a black plastic ring made for stepping up a air filter for a carb. I found it at Schuck's Auto Parts. It was a little large so I cut a small amount off and epoxyed it to the hat.

Here's a pic of where I cut the clear cap to use screws instead of the L shaped hold downs.
I used the stock coil. It looked clear because I did not have a coil on it when I took the other photo.

I bought a Luisi Stering wheel and MrMikes Leather Seats and Door Panels.

Also bought Konis, InTrax Lowering Springs, and a Full set of Poly Bushings.

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

WhoHoo
nice build up thread!!

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Proud Member of the DOWN SOUTH SUNNY WINTER drive your Fiero Naked Coalition.

85 4.9SE 4T60E Parks harness/ Rockcrawl chip-- No I do not want to race!

Any new pics>?

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Proud Member of the DOWN SOUTH SUNNY WINTER drive your Fiero Naked Coalition.

85 4.9SE 4T60E Parks harness/ Rockcrawl chip-- No I do not want to race!

How did you cut the Spring loaded L clamps? I need to cut mine and dont want to trash the cap.

quote Originally posted by Kento: How did you cut the Spring loaded L clamps? I need to cut mine and dont want to trash the cap.

I used a cutting wheel on a die grinder and hacked away, carefully

I will post more pics soon, I have my flywheel and clutch mounted and the trans is on the cradle.
Wish I had more time to work on it. No time this weekend, the wife and I are headed for Vancouver BC to celebrate 15 years of marriage (Today is our anniversary)

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

Anyone interested in a set of those valve covers powdercoated in either, mirror red/ mirror chrome/ mirro black/Gloss Black/ danger yellow/ or anodized red over chrome? I have a 4.9 distributor, valve covers, intake manifold, and som other parts, like the oil filter adaptor, Im not using them and can do the powdercoating and sell them if there is an interest. P.S. disasembling an alternator is not hard, the only problem is the bolts tend to snap then your screwed. That orange color looks sweet on that engine cant wait to see it in the car.

p8ntman442,
You have a PM.

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New name same attitude....
The geek formerly known as Tweaker

New Pics.

Custom flywheel.

Centerforce Clutch.

I made the engine mounts and bought Rodney Dickman's trans mounts.

Next up, install Ed Park's wiring harness.

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

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Can you post a photo of the front of the engine? I would like to see how you routed the belt. Are you going to use A/C?

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FierOmar

No AC.

I used the "slot the Altenator bracket trick" on rockcrawl's page.
http://www.fieroaddiction.com/caddy49i.html

Thank you - rockcrawl !

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

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Your gonna have to add a spring loaded tensioner in that belt system or something or your alternator will not get enough "wrap" around it. I had the same setup, following what someone else had done. It worked for a month till my belt got a little worn, then it slipped 100% of the time. It was the most annoying sound ever. I kept replacing belts, and stuff, but it ended up being the belt slipping on the alternator pulley. To fix, I got a stock alternator bracket to add the idler below the alternator, and also added a camaro tensioner to the right of the alternator. This more than doubled the alternator wrap. Fixed everything, and the tensioner makes changing the belt 400x easier. Its almost as if it was made to fit there.

good luck.

Let me see if I have a picture.

Nice engine Nothing more apealing than a nicely painted/powder coated engine.

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Palm Beach Fieros
http://pbfieros.tripod.com

quote Originally posted by collinwestphal: Your gonna have to add a spring loaded tensioner in that belt system or something or your alternator will not get enough "wrap" around it. I had the same setup, following what someone else had done. It worked for a month till my belt got a little worn, then it slipped 100% of the time. It was the most annoying sound ever. I kept replacing belts, and stuff, but it ended up being the belt slipping on the alternator pulley. To fix, I got a stock alternator bracket to add the idler below the alternator, and also added a camaro tensioner to the right of the alternator. This more than doubled the alternator wrap. Fixed everything, and the tensioner makes changing the belt 400x easier. Its almost as if it was made to fit there. good luck. Let me see if I have a picture.

THANK YOU I would much rather upgrade to a tensioner now before I install the motor. A + 4 U
I will have to get the bracket from the wrecking yard.

Do you have a part number for the camaro tensioner?

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

quote Originally posted by fourpoint9: THANK YOU I would much rather upgrade to a tensioner now before I install the motor. A + 4 U I will have to get the bracket from the wrecking yard. Do you have a part number for the camaro tensioner?

93 Camero 3.4 V6 tensioner is what you want.

Glad I could save you some frustration.

He is right, I also think 94' ones work too. I got a new tensioner from autozone for $40 I think. The ones I found at the junkyard were not in the best shape. You do need to make a small bracket to secure one end of the tensioner. I know I have a picture of my setup and bracket, but I can't seem to find it right now. I'm sure it is posted in the thread I made when I corrected this nightmare! Its a very simple bracket.

When do you expect to have the engine in and running? It looks great.

go here for all the nitty gritty on my bracket as meantioned in the link in above post: http://members.shaw.ca/edmontonfieros/

Tim

ps >> looks good, nice job

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Well I made my own version of the Camaro Tensioner Bracket. Now I just need the correct size belt.
Here's the pics:

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

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Wow! That is the nices bracket I have ever seen. Nicely done.

That is an outstanding looking bracket. Good job.

Do you have any measured drawings or template?

I have to have it for my 4.9.

Thanks,
Jeff

ditto on that. hook us up on that bracket

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88 coupe 4.9 Izusu 5-speed Rockcrawl chip. True duels.No A/C .KYB GR-2 on all 4 corners Built to run.

Tensioner Bracket Drawing 1

Tensioner Bracket Drawing 2

Please post in this thread if you make a bracket like mine. I would love to see who else uses this design.

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fourpoint9
87 notchback 4.9L swap in progress

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