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My build on deck lid vent (Unique) by fierodustin_86
Started on | : 08-07-2005 06:17 PM |
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Last post by | : Zeustopher on 08-14-2005 02:58 AM |
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Aug 7th, 2005
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fierodustin_86 Member Posts: 970 From: Joplin, Missouri Registered: Aug 2002
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I have been working on a good way to relieve the pressure and remove heat from the engine compartment for some time now and this is what I came up with. This is with the boby work done: Then I cut the hole with a Dremal tool with the base attachment. I made it so that it overlaps on top to give a good stopping place and to make it flush
------------------ email: fierodustin@yahoo.com PROJECT: 86 GT with a 3800SC Series I My Home Page
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06:17 PM
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fierodustin_86 Member Posts: 970 From: Joplin, Missouri Registered: Aug 2002
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06:19 PM
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Sourmug Member Posts: 4538 From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Registered: Sep 2002
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Hmm... This looks like it will be interesting! Nolan
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06:21 PM
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fierodustin_86 Member Posts: 970 From: Joplin, Missouri Registered: Aug 2002
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A couple of members have recorded it in motion and will post the video soon.( I hope). It is a motorized vent controlled by a switch that I mounted on the dash. Painted and closed.
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Edited for neyvens video: http://members.shaw.ca/neyven/home/vent.MPG [This message has been edited by fierodustin_86 (edited 08-10-2005).]
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06:31 PM
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Master Tuner Akimoto Member Posts: 2267 From: South Florida,USA Registered: Jul 2003
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Very ingenious ......how ever when it rains does the engine gets wet if the car is parked seeing it is right over the engine ?.
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07:15 PM
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fierodustin_86 Member Posts: 970 From: Joplin, Missouri Registered: Aug 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by Master Tuner Akimoto: Very ingenious ......how ever when it rains does the engine gets wet if the car is parked seeing it is right over the engine ?. |
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It actually works better than my old one. The seal is not that bad. I have seen some that like Skitimes that has vents and water gets on the engine there. Now, his car may never see rain but there are others. More water gets in at the window, I think that is why my exhaust manifold is cracked on the front side.
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07:40 PM
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Arns85GT Member Posts: 11159 From: London, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jul 2003
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Ingenious. So for around town it will vent very nicely and it will catch the air coming off the tail when at highway speeds. Have you tried it at speed yet? Some 6" lengths of yarn and a digital camera would make for some interesting viewing. Congratulations on some nice engineering. Arn
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07:45 PM
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Russ544 Member Posts: 2136 From: S.W. Oregon Registered: Jun 2003
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Exellent outside of the box idea. Great work. I'd like to see some yarn testing at various speeds also. Russ
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08:08 PM
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goatnipples2002 Member Posts: 2055 From: Bellevue,Ne. Registered: Jul 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by fierodustin_86: water gets in at the window, I think that is why my exhaust manifold is cracked on the front side. |
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If you used the manifold shield then this might not happen. If you used the shield then It might have been another problem.
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08:16 PM
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fierodustin_86 Member Posts: 970 From: Joplin, Missouri Registered: Aug 2002
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Actually the heat shield is there and that is a problem. All the shield nuts are frozen and rounded. I cannot replace the manifold because of that. I will have to pull the engine and if I do that it will be a swap. Well, I unfortunatly did a smoke test today. I did not replace my distributer o'ring when I replaced the pickup coil. It seems to work really well. I may try the yarn thing next weekend, I will post on it if I do( pictures too).
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08:42 PM
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FieroRumor Member Posts: 35007 From: New York Registered: Dec 2001
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Very unique and cool MOD!
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09:43 PM
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Coop9200 Member Posts: 2076 From: Westchester, NY Registered: Oct 2002
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would be cool if it was like the porsche and mercedes spoilers also...ya know, pop up at speed (i think around 75) and then the mercedes slr has the spoiler pop up when it goes to hard braking. But very cool man, it will definietly work for engine cooling, i really like it. -Coop
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09:47 PM
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fierodustin_86 Member Posts: 970 From: Joplin, Missouri Registered: Aug 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by Coop9200: would be cool if it was like the porsche and mercedes spoilers also...ya know, pop up at speed (i think around 75) and then the mercedes slr has the spoiler pop up when it goes to hard braking. But very cool man, it will definietly work for engine cooling, i really like it. -Coop |
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I just dont have the resources that Mercedes and Porsche have at the moment. My father and I are working on that though. It will be a timed circuit that will actuate on temp. and speed. I am ok with this stuff but my dad is alot better.
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10:03 PM
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86fierofun Member Posts: 3650 From: Registered: Aug 2004
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how did you cut the hole so that it over laps? and what dremmel bit did you use?
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10:07 PM
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Steven Snyder Member Posts: 3324 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2004
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Thats awesome!! Not what I was expecting at all when i clicked this link.. hehehe. How's the clearance from the motor/hinge assembly to the engine? I'd love to do something like this on my car, but I have a 3.4 TDC (quite tall)
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10:10 PM
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avengador1 Member Posts: 35468 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
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Excellent idea, but you need to get rid of the erector set parts and make some nice pieces for there. I assume you are showing the car right? Some nice milled pieces would really make it look professional.
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10:14 PM
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Aug 8th, 2005
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Key Of David Member Posts: 564 From: Lexington, SC Registered: Apr 2004
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Very very kewl!! But I think the other Fiero has something in its eye. ------------------
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06:14 AM
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opm2000 Member Posts: 1347 From: Versailles, Ky USA Heart of the Bluegrass Registered: Dec 2000
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Hats off for a super project ! This guy showed us a different approach to solving a common problem. And his follow-thru with planning & construction was first rate. When I spotted him at the Osage Beach show, he really gave me the tour of his project. We also discussed using the device in other locations, like the front hood, or side scoops. This is what you go to car shows for, to see something new and innovative. Really nice. David Breeze ------------------ Pantera Rebody Kits
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07:12 AM
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3800superfast Member Posts: 8568 From: ohio U.S. Registered: Apr 2004
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Dustin, Coolllll as Helll--nice job. !!! Ok what would you charge me if I sent you 2 deck lids, 1 from my 88GT 3800Sc and another from a 87GT 3.2 Stroker ??? Really-Really nice !!!!!!
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07:16 AM
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Philphine Member Posts: 6136 From: louisville,ky. usa Registered: Feb 2000
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i like it. when i cut in my skitime type deck window i wanted it to move similar to that, like a sunroof for the engine, but i just didn't have that type of skill. you worked it out pretty good. ------------------ Phil T. start where you are, use what you have, do what you can. arthur ashe
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08:05 AM
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fierodustin_86 Member Posts: 970 From: Joplin, Missouri Registered: Aug 2002
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Thanks for the vote of confidence guys I really appreciate it. Avengador: This was done in one week, I had some trouble with the engineering. It was used show only the idea only. And that worked out well. David: Thank you. I will be working on more in the near future. superfast: I am working on that. I am going to find someone for all the parts and then I will see what it will cost me. I dont want to use an ERECTOR set again ya know. Thanks Phil. fierofun: It was a small crosscut bit I beleive.
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07:14 PM
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Gokart Member Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
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Very clever!
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07:36 PM
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Rickady88GT Member Posts: 10649 From: Central CA Registered: Dec 2002
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Man that is cool But wont it push air into the hole at high speed? Like the high pressure area in front of the wind shield? ------------------
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11:34 PM
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Aug 9th, 2005
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86GT3.4DOHC Member Posts: 10007 From: Marion Ohio Registered: Apr 2004
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grr you stole my idea, though I was going to have a more boxy vent, hinged on one side, and it would slam up and down possibly vaccum controled like the older cars, or triggered by WOT.
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01:58 AM
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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Very nicely done. Don't you just love Erector sets? They allow you to prototype things like this without spending a fortune. Back in about 1992, I used an Erector set to articulate the wing on a Fiero GT. It was real similar to what you have here. A + for you, nice job. Archie
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07:27 AM
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87FieroGTx Member Posts: 2630 From: Bath, New York, USA Registered: Jun 2001
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Reminds me of the 2005 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren's air brake. Very Nice!
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08:30 AM
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Dennis LaGrua Member Posts: 15551 From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A. Registered: May 2000
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Very ingenious and good looking install. Great job and I like it. . That engine compartment heat is sure to decrease by opening it up like that. Perhaps installing a drainage tray under the opening will allow you to also use it in the rain. ------------------ 87GT 3.4 Turbo- 0-60 5.2 seconds -Best Engine Controls, ECM goodies, Chip re-programming & odd electronics stuff
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08:39 AM
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fierodustin_86 Member Posts: 970 From: Joplin, Missouri Registered: Aug 2002
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Neyven has a video that will show the actual motion and speed. I hope that he posts it soon. I appreciate all the compliments guys, I love motorized things.
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07:19 PM
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neyven Member Posts: 805 From: Redcliff, Alberta Registered: Sep 2002
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Aug 10th, 2005
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Eclipse Member Posts: 2040 From: Woodstock, Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2004
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This is one of the nicest mods I have seen. Good work! ------------------ Jay Brintnell Owner / Design Lead - WordMark.ca Communications White 85 Notchback - A.K.A. GodFearN Red 85 2M4 - work in progress
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12:43 AM
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BERKELUSA Member Posts: 262 From: Manchester, New Hampshire USA Registered: Apr 2005
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fierodustin_86 - GREAT JOB, I like it !!!.. That reminds me of the Boxter fin, But doesnt that thing come UP at a particular speed? Also consider this IDEA too..
I just need to remove some fiberglas tail-light pocket material next...
Drawing of whats to come:
Considering that my trunk was rotted junk I wanted more venting area out back like you... This takes the Fiero back to its REAL ROOTS - the "Ferarri LOOK" [This message has been edited by BERKELUSA (edited 08-10-2005).]
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01:02 AM
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watts Member Posts: 3256 From: Coaldale, AB, Canada Registered: Aug 2001
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If your dad's hot in electronics... Tell him to tap the VSS signal. At a certain frequency, which of course relates to speed, (use a bandpass filter? maybe go fancier?) have it toggle a relay, and use a limit switch to have it travel stop at each end. Or get fancy and use current cut. Nice smooth action in the video!
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01:33 AM
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Aug 11th, 2005
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JT6666 Member Posts: 355 From: Montgomery County, MD. Registered: Nov 2003
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I see a paintball gun port that would aim at a the driver of the 18 wheeler 5 foot from my rear bumper !
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12:38 AM
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AaronZ34 Member Posts: 2322 From: Colorado Springs, CO Registered: Oct 2004
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| quote | Originally posted by BERKELUSA: That reminds me of the Boxter fin, But doesnt that thing come UP at a particular speed?
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Well our 996 Turbo had a double deck spoiler, and the top part would normally sit on the bottom, so it looked like one piece. But above 65mph, or if you hit the button, it would raise up. It wasn't for cooling tho, just for stability. ------------------
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12:54 AM
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BERKELUSA Member Posts: 262 From: Manchester, New Hampshire USA Registered: Apr 2005
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BUMP: I think it would be really cool just connected to the electric fan relay PERIOD ! Every time the sucker got HOT and the fan came ON.. Whizzzzzzzz vent opens.. lol ADD a switch in-line to do it manually too.. Now that would ROCK.. Ferarri got stupid on some cars.. made the rear deck ALL open vents and louvres.., Rain? hahaha Yeah I know, Who drives a Ferarri in the rain?, Well Italy is not famous for grapes and wine with NO rain.. Good reason our Fiero's are always so freaking DUSTY under the hood too.., Oh those VENTS.. lol Would love to see a Fiero with this done over the trunk area (trunk trimmed out like mine) Hmm.. that could be ME ! Thanks for the idea.., Dont let the Honda boys see it.. JK and I "second the motion" on the paintball gun.. Rob ------------------ Rob's 6" inch stretched 1986 Pontiac Fiero SE' convertible PROJECT Robs TWO 1986se Fiero's are now ONE Fiero! Regards.. Rob berkelusa@hotmail.com [This message has been edited by BERKELUSA (edited 08-11-2005).]
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12:28 PM
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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Totally cool new mod!! It gives me lots of ideas. Where did you get the motor from? I must have a dozen just like it. ------------------ 88 GT T-Top, 88 Fastback Chop-top (Archie #14), 1984 Indy, and 88 Chop Top T-top Firebird Interior Installation Website
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03:45 PM
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fierodustin_86 Member Posts: 970 From: Joplin, Missouri Registered: Aug 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1: Totally cool new mod!! It gives me lots of ideas. Where did you get the motor from? I must have a dozen just like it. |
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The motor is off a power mirror unit on a heavy Volvo truck. That is just what I to use at the time. I am not too sure just how reliable it will be. good luck.
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06:59 PM
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Aug 13th, 2005
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THE BEAST Member Posts: 1177 From: PORT SAINT LUCIE,FLORIDA,USA Registered: Dec 2000
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Nice work fierodustin_86 I will like to see this application on the side scoops and front hood. Very well done! JG
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11:08 PM
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Aug 14th, 2005
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Zeustopher Member Posts: 81 From: West Valley City, Utah Registered: Feb 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by THE BEAST: Nice work fierodustin_86 I will like to see this application on the side scoops and front hood.
Very well done! JG |
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Side scoops that could open and close! That would be AWSESOME! I love the idea. Wish I would have thought of it!
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