!@#%!$#@% i found out recently mine isnot a getrag!!! it had the 5spd manual dash plate w 4spd tranny...i couldnt tell it is a 4spd cuz it dont even shift totally locked up...so now im back to square 1....what car has a compatable 4spd or should i upgrade to 5spd? what if any mods would i have to do for 5spd?....srry for the late response..ive been busy and i havent touched my carr untill yesterday when i moved it to my house
Grab a 4 speed muncie out of a Fiero, the 5 speed is prefered , check Rodneys site for compatibility www.rodneydickman.com are you checking the mall section here on the forum, post a wtb ad, I can`t remember what your doing to the car, not sure if this helped any or not, just going on whats posted. This may help too. http://car-part.com/
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DEMONCHILD Member
Posts: 515 From: FLINT, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2006
what i want to do is replace my tranny...id prefer installing a 5spd rather than a 4spd....which would be better...i love to roast the tires an hotrod lol...most of my car is all modified to do so but the tranny...which is garbage...where i live you see fieros rarely..well i do anyways so getting my hands on another fiero tranny let alone one that works is slim to none..so i need to kno what is a suitable replacement..and i have no way to go long distance to pick up a tranny so the mall is out of the question
You need a list of fwd getrags that will fit your Fiero, then the conversion kit from Rodney to change it over, have you tried the local salvage yards for a later model getrag?
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flames4me Member
Posts: 915 From: Woodbury MN / Hammond WI Registered: Jun 2005
i dont think rodney has anything for FWD getrags over 1990 or so. this 2001 tranny will bolt up to your engine, but you need custom linkages, and mounts (not to dificult if you have some skill with fabrication work).
------------------ 1986 Silver 5 speed Fiero 3.4 DOHC Bored .30, Fully balanced and blueprinted 13* retard exhaust cam, FFP UDP, much more. 13.93@101mph as it is on the street
355/380hp sbc, 4 bolt main spec stage 3, and many other extras. 87 GT 5-speed Getrag, power everything.
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Posts: 12279 From: Flint Michigan Registered: Jan 2006
i need to know which cars hav a4spd thats compatible with my car, dark horizon do you know any junkyards that have fieros? and if so can i have their number plz lol..i would love to find a junkyard that had a fiero gt that i can take pconversion parts off of..and a 4spd fiero tranny wuld be nice lol
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Steven Snyder Member
Posts: 3326 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2004
i need to know which cars hav a4spd thats compatible with my car, dark horizon do you know any junkyards that have fieros? and if so can i have their number plz lol..i would love to find a junkyard that had a fiero gt that i can take pconversion parts off of..and a 4spd fiero tranny wuld be nice lol
Tiger auto salvage has 2 fieros out back, 84/85's unknown trans.
Flint auto salvage had a 4speed a few weeks ago, doubt its there anymore.
Check with renos, or maybe even genesee. The phonebook is your friend.
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DEMONCHILD Member
Posts: 515 From: FLINT, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2006
OK THANKS ALOT DARKHORIZON...the only place i knew had fieros was monster an they nolonger sell parts they just scrap the cars which means the 5 fieros they had are sitting there doomed to the scrap heap
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Posts: 515 From: FLINT, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2006
well since no one told me what trans will work in my fiero i went in search of one from a fiero....i go to a junkyard and they sed an 85 thru 87 trans out of a cavalier, beretta, an some car that starts w a f will work in my car....the trans are the same so the computer said.... so i said ok great...i buy one for 200 its sealed in some vaccume sealed sht so i couldnt tell if it would work i get it home and out and wtf this pos is not going to work for my car and the place does not do refunds so thanks a f***ing lot....idk wtf to do the shift mech is in a different position idk where to mount my slave cylinder since my fiero mount would be totaly on the opposite side of the trans due to the fact that shift linkage is over there.....i do not have the resources to fab sht up to make this work so this is basically 200 dollars down the shtter now i have no $$ for another trans cus i saved up for 3 months doin odd jobs to get this trans...wtf do i do now?!?!?!!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!??!!??!!??!??!??!?!? i was planning to have this done this weekend to make my car driveable do i can get a job....idk how im gonna get pics on here cuz o my old ass digital camera is gay and wont work with my new computer
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DEMONCHILD Member
Posts: 515 From: FLINT, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2006
ok hey is there anyone near me who knows how to swap the "guts" out of 4 spd manual trans...if so then how much to do it cus the case is different from the 2 trannys but internally they are the same so if i swap insides from my junkyard trans to my fiero casing then im good to go.....plz sumone answer lol
Did you try to ask the salvage yard for a swap--instead of a refund--they don`t like to give $$$ back--but they will swap for something else they have or can locate, even if its for a little more $$$ it would save a heck of alot of work tearing apart 2 transmissions....
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Posts: 515 From: FLINT, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2006
ok my original trans idc whats wrong....it is a pita to get into the gears and when you put it in reverse it pops out of reverse and into 1st and when in first it pops into 3rd and when in second pops into 4th and also when 4th pops into neutral so prev owner had to hold shifter constantly into gear.............
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Firefox Member
Posts: 4307 From: New Berlin, Wisconsin Registered: Feb 2003
The salvage yard should be refunding your money. Most yards that I deal with will not refund you cash if you asked for a certain part, but they will if the part they supplied is not what you asked for. You have them a certain application and they supplied a trans that they said would fit, but since the part they supplied will not work the responsibility is theirs to correct.....either by supplying you with a proper transmission or refunding your money.
Try that first.
Mark
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DEMONCHILD Member
Posts: 515 From: FLINT, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2006
Yes, they will, but you'll have the shortest first gear ever, I had a 4cyl 4speed with my first 86gt V6, and I had to shift almost as I was taking off. That is because they came with a 4:10 gear ratio (it helped the duke get off the line, but your V6 got better low-end). There is another 4speed available from the 4cyl cars (is extremelly rear and I believe that only some 84 4cyl cars had it) it has a very low 4th gear (you can do like 70mph at 1500rpms or something like that) good for high way gas miles
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wftb Member
Posts: 3692 From: kincardine,ontario,canada Registered: Jun 2005
only the 84 's came with the 4.10.i live in kincardine ontario canada and i have a 4 speed fom my 86 gt that i know longer use.it worked perfect when i took it out.you can have it for free if you come and get it.i am two hours north of port huron mi on the canadian side of lake huron.not that far from you.
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frankenfiero1 Member
Posts: 441 From: maryville TN USA Registered: Oct 2006
Yes, they will, but you'll have the shortest first gear ever, I had a 4cyl 4speed with my first 86gt V6, and I had to shift almost as I was taking off. That is because they came with a 4:10 gear ratio (it helped the duke get off the line, but your V6 got better low-end). There is another 4speed available from the 4cyl cars (is extremelly rear and I believe that only some 84 4cyl cars had it) it has a very low 4th gear (you can do like 70mph at 1500rpms or something like that) good for high way gas miles
JG
what about the rest of the gears? will i have a slower topspeed ? with a 4cyl trans id want my car to be ABLE to go as fast as it can with a 6cyl trans...not that ill be going fast enough to top out in 4th, but hey id like to kno that i have most speed an power out of my mostly stock fiero
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DEMONCHILD Member
Posts: 515 From: FLINT, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2006
I`m not familuar with the 4 speed mentioned above--but can tell you , if your taching 1500rpms at 70mph , you`ll do fine with that one, my 4 speed Muncie keps me at around 3 grand at 60mph.
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DEMONCHILD Member
Posts: 515 From: FLINT, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2006
sigh.....iv exausted all resources but one...the junkyard trans...its an unknown 4spd it looks exactly like this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=013&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=230050599362&rd=1 ,1 yet mine is 4 spd after reading a archived tippic i realized i have no clue what mine is..isuzu??..muncie??..does anyone kno what 4 spd looks like a 5spd isuzu?...the shift mechanism is the same as the one in the pictured ebay trans.is there any kit to make it work?....... if not does anyone wanna buy a 86 4spd mystery trans?
oh yea i have identified the trans in my car to be a 4spd muncie
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yeah more power more power! now the hard questions how to make it fit and how to keep the front end on the ground and where cand i find a super super duty drive train? loool