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Radiator Cooling Fan Upgrade by PaulJK
Started on: 07-21-2007 03:24 AM
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Report this Post07-21-2007 03:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKDirect Link to This Post
Since I was already working on cooling (reference for the archives):

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/084323.html

I thought I'd look into upgrading the radiator fan, especially since I got a few good responses to another post I made. Specifically the reasons were:

1. My A/C just wasn't getting cold enough for me and a 10 inch fan for the condensor only covered the center of the condensor;

2. my stock fan blade slightly rubbed the shroud as it coasted down when the car was shut off (i suspect the plastic got slightly deformed by the heat over time);

3. New fans can pull more air with less current draw.

I chose the Perma-Cool PRM-19115 16 inch fan from Summit: http://store.summitracing.c...006+115&autoview=sku

Notice the 2950 CFM at 9.8 amps I don't know what the specs on the stock fiero fan are. This PermaCool fan comes pre-configured as a "puller" so you Do Not need to change the blade since it is being mounted on the back of the radiator.

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Report this Post07-21-2007 03:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKDirect Link to This Post
Start by unplugging the wiring pigtail then removing the (4) bolts that hold on the fan shroud; (2) top and (2) bottom. Remove the ones at the bottom first, so the fan and shroud doesn't drop and swing into the radiator when the last bolt is removed . Lift the assembly free.



Remove the fan motor plus blade by taking out the three screws holding the fan motor to the shroud. You can also remove the fan blade by removing the nut holding it to the fan motor [NOTE: the nut is a reverse thread - to loosen it, turn it like you would Normally" tighten ]

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Report this Post07-21-2007 03:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKDirect Link to This Post

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mister dremel tool does a nice job cutting through the plastic shroud to remove the center bracing that held the stock fan motor / blade

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Report this Post07-21-2007 03:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKDirect Link to This Post

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At this point you can either mount the fan directly to the radiator using the hold-downs (supplied with the fan) or mount it to the shroud. I chose to mount it to the shroud because it seemed easier and I just have a "thing" about pushing things through my radiator if I don't really have to .

Position the legs of the PermaCool fan so that they come close to the bolt holes in the shroud where support is maximum. When centered, the fan blades are about 1/8 inch from the edge of the shroud.

Loosen the nuts on the coolant over flow tank because it might need to slide over slightly to clear the fan brace. Re-mount the assembly to the radiator using the four bolts.



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Report this Post07-21-2007 03:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKDirect Link to This Post

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The fiero wiring pigtail consists of a solid black wire and a black with red stripe. Anybdy guessing that the one with the red stripe would be the 12+ would be correct . I cut the wires to the correct length and used "female" terminals (10 / 12 guage wire) for the ends. Fan RED to the fiero wire with the RED stripe and BLACK to BLACK. Don't worry about current because the RED wire is not "live' while the car is OFF. I shrink-wrapped the crimps and puta small amount of conductor grease on the terminals. The terminals then slide onto the male ends in the fan's connector plug. I siliconned the open (back) end of the fan connector and will wrap the connection with electrical tape and wire ties to weather-proof and secure it.

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Report this Post07-21-2007 04:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKDirect Link to This Post

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The finished project looks like this



The PermaCool fan blows a LOT of air ! My A/C is definitely cooler and my temp guage reading has dropped 5 to 10 degrees. My stock fiero fan motor was about $40 from AutoZone. The PermaCool fan was about $130 (shipped) from Summit.

I think the aluminum fan looks MUCH better than the stock one. The project might look better with the fan mounted directly to the radiator, like FieroSound did his. Thanks to FieroSound and William Federle for sharing their experience.

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Report this Post07-21-2007 11:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for InaneCathodeSend a Private Message to InaneCathodeDirect Link to This Post
You should try building a cowling for the fan that has a tiny amount of clearance, 1/16th of an inch around the ends of the fan blades. If you duct the fan it'd be way more efficient, and i have an inkling thats why pontiac put that ring around the stock fan, to increase efficiency.
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Report this Post07-21-2007 11:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero1FanClick Here to visit Fiero1Fan's HomePageSend a Private Message to Fiero1FanDirect Link to This Post
Nice job. Looks real good.
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Report this Post07-21-2007 12:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for chrishahn87Send a Private Message to chrishahn87Direct Link to This Post
Nice write-up!

I have actually been planning to do this soon anyway! I want a fan that has less of a draw than stock Fiero fan.

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Report this Post07-21-2007 12:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
Looks Nice.

There is another version of that running around with an aftermarket fan in a modded shroud. It used one of the plastic caged jobs.

This one looks like the fan fits the shroud better. And you want the shroud BTW. It makes a major difference in fan efficiency. Allot of people eliminate it but they usually aren't helping themselves any doing so. In some vehicles it degrades cooling considerably when the shroud is gone.

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Report this Post04-15-2008 12:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mickey_MooseClick Here to visit Mickey_Moose's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mickey_MooseDirect Link to This Post
...similar to what Fierosound did: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...030204-2-028411.html
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