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Buddy Craig sunroof leak by Norway
Started on: 10-13-2008 02:19 PM
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Report this Post10-13-2008 02:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NorwaySend a Private Message to NorwayDirect Link to This Post
Hi

Was on Youtube and saw that a guy named Buddycraig makes his sunroof leak proof by drilling holes in the 4 corners of the sunroof. Has anyone done this? Does it work? Does anyone know what I'm talk about?

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Report this Post10-13-2008 02:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
Yes it's been done a lot.. It was a dealer service recomendation from years ago...
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Originally posted by Norway:

Hi

Was on Youtube and saw that a guy named Buddycraig makes his sunroof leak proof by drilling holes in the 4 corners of the sunroof. Has anyone done this? Does it work? Does anyone know what I'm talk about?

seeya


It's Buddycraigg, with two g's
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Report this Post10-13-2008 02:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
ha, i have a leak.
here is the TSP in print
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...070315-2-075438.html
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I just finished replacing my sunroof gasket from Fiero Store while fighting off NJ mosquitoes. I counted 16 bites, ouch!

I did notice the gasket holding water on the inside and outside of the gasket. I went ahead and drilled the four holes on the outer corner instead of the innner corners. Why? The outside corners seem to be the lowest area around the channel for the water to drain. I installed the gasket without the adhesive that way the water can work its way from the inside to the outside channel and drain off. Preventing rusting away the gasket channel because of holding water. I also caulked the rivets holding the channels and the bolts holding down the top fiberglass of the car just so I can sleep at night.

I am now just waiting for my headliner kit from FieroThomas. Can't wait to put everything together. Hope this helps you out.

Dave

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Report this Post10-14-2008 01:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 85fiero_fanatSend a Private Message to 85fiero_fanatDirect Link to This Post
mine are drilled on the outside as well. The step by step I found showed them on the outside, and when drilling them I also noticed that the outside was lower. I only have the holes in the back half though, I believe...Maybe I'm mistaken and I drilled them in the front too lol. No leaks though going on my 3rd year after drilling the holes (sunroof leaked really bad before drilling them and this is the only thing I did to fix it).
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Report this Post10-14-2008 07:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierohohoSend a Private Message to fierohohoDirect Link to This Post
Be very careful when you drill, once you get through the panel the metal roof skin is right below it about a 1/4" and you don't want to drill through that.

I did my 84SE, all 4 corners, it went from a waterfall in the rain to dry as a bone.

Here are pics of where I drilled.

Left front.


Left rear.


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Report this Post10-14-2008 10:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
oops, i meant TSB not TSP
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Originally posted by fierohoho:

Be very careful when you drill, once you get through the panel the metal roof skin is right below it about a 1/4" and you don't want to drill through that.



I wrapped a few inches of masking tape about a quarter inch from the bottom around the drill bit to prevent the drill from going any farther. Worked great. Took all the stress out of worrying about the drill bit going too far and damaging the metal underneath the panel.


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Report this Post10-14-2008 07:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
i have a different trick,
but you have to watch my video to find out.
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Report this Post10-14-2008 07:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
I love your trick... Buddycraigg is my he.... Oh never mind.... Happy Halloween...

It's amazing how simple some ideas are but you don't think of them yourself...
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Originally posted by buddycraigg:

i have a different trick,
but you have to watch my video to find out.



You could've at least supplied a link.

Your trick is fine Buddy, IF you happen to have a chunk of you-know-what around to cut to the correct length. However, we've ALL got tape we can put on the drill bit instead.
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Report this Post10-14-2008 09:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
Doesn't everyone have some copper tubing, metal fuel line, scrap air pump tubes, sway bar link tubes, plastic tubing, block of wood, ...laying around...

Boy I need to clean the garage out... !
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Originally posted by Dodgerunner:

Boy I need to clean the garage out... !



Get the wife to do it. Works well for Cliff.
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Get the wife to do it. Works well for Cliff.


Are you kidding she would not set foot in it if I dangled a $100 in front of her... Maybe a cruise?...

Hey Honey would you do it for a cruise? ............... Ouch! can't repeat what the response was!
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Originally posted by Patrick:
You could've at least supplied a link.

my bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbOhPc4q8E

the thing i like about my trick is it keeps my clumsy butt from tearing up the seal with the side of the bit.
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Originally posted by buddycraigg:

the thing i like about my trick is it keeps my clumsy butt from tearing up the seal with the side of the bit.



So would enough tape.

Anyway, the point we're all making of course (for any newbies here) is that it's best NOT to drill those holes without some way of preventing the drill bit from going too far. You don't want to puncture your seat cushions.
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Report this Post10-14-2008 11:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
hey...
some a-hole left a rude comment on one of my door panel vids.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xccyDDAAuW4

ok. who did it?
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my drill bit wasn't very long, so I stuck it a ways into the drill so that it only stuck out a little bit. That insured that I didn't go to far
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Originally posted by Patrick:


So would enough tape.

Anyway, the point we're all making of course (for any newbies here) is that it's best NOT to drill those holes without some way of preventing the drill bit from going too far. You don't want to puncture your seat cushions.


Harbor Freight sells a set of drill stops. I picked them up on sale for 99 cents. Very handy things to have. Works a lot better than the tape method.

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Originally posted by Larryh86GT:

Harbor Freight sells a set of drill stops. I picked them up on sale for 99 cents. Very handy things to have. Works a lot better than the tape method.



Yes, proper drill stops work great.

I never suggested the "tape method" was the absolute best way to prevent drilling too deep. However, it works a helluva lot better than simply trying to stop drilling too far manually.

You use whatever you have on hand. I had tape. I didn't have a metal tube (like Buddy uses). I didn't have proper drill stops.
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Originally posted by Patrick:


Yes, proper drill stops work great.

I never suggested the "tape method" was the absolute best way to prevent drilling too deep. However, it works a helluva lot better than simply trying to stop drilling too far manually.

You use whatever you have on hand. I had tape. I didn't have a metal tube (like Buddy uses). I didn't have proper drill stops.



Heck, I always used tape myself. I never knew they even made the drill stops until I found them at Harbor Freight recently. (one of my favorite stores to wonder in).
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Where does the water go after it drains down into those holes? I mean, I imagine it must get out somehow, and that it's path to do so would cause no/less damage than if it were standing up around the sunroof.

Just wondering where it runs to/gets out through.

Thanks!

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Originally posted by Trinten:

Where does the water go after it drains down into those holes?



There's a large holding tank that needs to be emptied once a month.
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It's been mentioned in previous threads on this topic, but the water IS able to drain to the outside of the car down the roof pillars I believe.
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