While I'm waiting for a reply from PR, I figured I'd throw this up in the forums. Those of you that used his low alt mount, what oil filter adapter did you use? The adapter I have makes the oil pressure sender face the rear of the car which interferes with the bracket and causes the alternator to not have full adjustment. It was "ok" until I put the fiero's oil pressure sender in it, but the fiero's sender is physically much larger than the grand prix's.
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Posts: 15547 From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A. Registered: May 2000
Use the smaller 88 2.8L sender instead of that huge can. Its also more reliable. Problem solved.
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I used a 2000 GTP oil filter adapter and it points the pressure sending unit (from an 88 Fiero) at the alt. But its not interfering with mounting the bracket. My bracket was on before I put the pressure sending unit on. In reverse order, there might have been a problem. I'm not sure though.
I tried doing it the other way around and had just as many problems. Not only does the sender conflict with the aluminum bracket, it also conflicts with the lateral bar PR supplies.
Comparison shot - 88's left, original 2000 gtp right
Attempting to make the comparitively puny gtp oil pressure sender fit
Attempting to make the large 88 sender fit
Passenger side shot of the adapter for better identification
Should I be looking for an adapter more similar to this?
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Posts: 12279 From: Flint Michigan Registered: Jan 2006
I tried doing it the other way around and had just as many problems. Not only does the sender conflict with the aluminum bracket, it also conflicts with the lateral bar PR supplies.
[quoteAttempting to make the comparitively puny gtp oil pressure sender fit [/quote]
The Grand Prix sender is for an "idiot light". It will pin the oil pressure gauge as its an on/off switch. You need the 88 Fiero sensor to drive the gauge Should I be looking for an adapter more similar to this?
It will probably work but why drive up the cost? I don't know what kind of alternator mount design does not allow enough room for the 88 OP gauge sensor to mount but as the Darkman said a 90* wide angle brass elbow ( i believe 1/4" NPT) might work.
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Low mount alt assemblies from FastFieros do not have this problem. I also use the 3800 alt that is from 99-07.
But they do interface the trunk in some situations... At least when I made low mounts that cleared the oil filter they got in the way with the trunk when used in manual setups with modified engine location.
But they do interface the trunk in some situations... At least when I made low mounts that cleared the oil filter they got in the way with the trunk when used in manual setups with modified engine location.
If it hit the trunk then you did something wrong. I have built about 4-5 of the low mounts mentioned by FF and none of then have come close to hitting the trunk area. There is enough room where you can swing the Alt in where it will be no where near the trunk.
Hey James. The alt bracket is not designed for that oil filter adapter. The ones i have been using is from a 3800 NA with the filter adapter's oil sender hole is vertical. Or u could notch the lower brace. Or install the 90* fitting like u did. Or use Loyde's set-up. lots of options.
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Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
The Grand Prix sender is for an "idiot light". It will pin the oil pressure gauge as its an on/off switch. You need the 88 Fiero sensor to drive the gauge
This I didnt knew..I want more then an on/off reading...maybe I can use the supplied sender of the (aftermarket) gauge.. So is the stock gtp sender not used by the ecm or fuelpump, but only for an "idiot light" ?