The following Web Site not online. Probably will not be back. Get copies while you can.

Cruzers/ludis for DIY EFI are offline. (http://www.cruzers.com/~ludis/)
Use Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/....cruzers.com/~ludis/

Frans Godschalk has Fiero Tech Zone is offline. (http://www.euronet.nl/users/fo_elmo/fiero.htm)
Use Wayback Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/...rs/fo_elmo/fiero.htm

Wayback machine can lose thing! robot.txt will kill old archive and new copy to. Read their site. Many sites doesn't work with it either. Frame, java, and shockwave/flash usually doesn't work with them. (Can't get my cave. Frame and java/javascipt. Oliver's site, http://www.fieros.de/en/main.html, have a robot.txt at root )

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Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
(Jurassic Park)

The Ogre's Fiero Cave (It's also at the top of every forum page...)

[This message has been edited by theogre (edited 08-31-2009).]

I can rehost these off the dohcfiero.com site after I get some other things sorted out.

Thanks, I just tried the cruzer site today and found it missing. I was bummed.!

Ludis Langens was a long time Fiero owner from Germany. He was also an electronic engineer (or software enginer) that was one of the first to dissassemble the Fiero chip. Ludis was very technical. Early on when I started programming it was Ludis who gave me the bit addresses for the timing table that enabled me to develop one for a 2 BAR MAP sensor. Ludis also manufactured a very nice scan tool that fit in the dash panel so nice in fact that it looked OEM. In the car hobby it seems people come and people go. In the 12 years that I've been into Fieros I've seen about a 50% change in the names on the web forums. I haven't seen anything from Ludis online in the past few years so I assume that Ludis has moved on to other interests.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

I quickly made an offline copy of Ludis's web page. I learned, probably half of what I know about ECM's from that website alone. So now I have it for good.

Wayback machine is not very copy/save friendly.

I did one today. (Fo elmo)
I had to delete a big javascript to see them. Look at the bottom web page.
Had more edit to fix link and some image it didn't copy. Even page needs to be edit. Took most of a day.

you can delete this to see image...

quote <script language="Javascript"> <!-- // INTERNET ARCHIVE ON 20090426153710. // FILE ARCHIVED ON 20060514191404 AND RETRIEVED FROM THE // JAVASCRIPT APPENDED BY WAYBACK MACHINE, COPYRIGHT INTERNET ARCHIVE. // ALL OTHER CONTENT MAY ALSO BE PROTECTED BY COPYRIGHT (17 U.S.C. // SECTION 108(a)(3)). {snip} //--> </script>

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Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
(Jurassic Park)

The Ogre's Fiero Cave (It's also at the top of every forum page...)

Ludis' website saved.
Frans Godschalk's website saved.
A few images missing -- the archive lost them.

quote Originally posted by TopNotch: Ludis' website saved.

Thank you! The cross-reference section of this website is a life saver.