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Duke water pump by Patrick
Started on: 09-28-2009 06:22 PM
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Report this Post09-28-2009 06:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickDirect Link to This Post

Does anyone have a part number for a duke water pump with a metal impeller?

I don't want one with a plastic impeller as they are known to be inferior. (The plastic impeller often works loose from the shaft and then doesn't do anything.)

It's for an '84. I suspect the pump itself is the same for all years. (The '87-'88 dukes have a different pulley.)

While we're discussing pulleys, what is the best method of removing the pulley from the old pump and installing it on the new pump?

So now I've got a few things to do to this car...

1) Drop the cradle to fix whatever is preventing the clutch release lever from moving. (I suspect the clutch fork isn't positioned in the throwout bearing properly.)

2) Drill out a broken starter bolt which has snapped off in the block.

3) Re & re the timing cover to pound out a dent that is rubbing on the timing gear.

4) Replace the water pump which is dripping coolant out the bottom weep hole.

Will it ever end?
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Report this Post09-28-2009 07:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for josef644Send a Private Message to josef644Direct Link to This Post
Yes it will end,when you get you a Toyota or a Honda. I read here somewhere " Welcome to the madness"
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Report this Post09-28-2009 08:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NewbfieroSend a Private Message to NewbfieroDirect Link to This Post
Welcome to the 84 s Just mine is a auto

But on the water pump I did put one on not to long ago but be hard to see the Number right of hand . sorry patrick am not much help on this one . Is the 84 yours ?

Rob

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Originally posted by josef644:

Yes it will end, when you get you a Toyota or a Honda.


Never!

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Originally posted by Newbfiero:

Is the 84 yours ?



Yes Rob, it's one of... ummm... several.

I bought it as a "project" five years ago from a fella who had put all "aero" trim on it including an aero nose and bumper (with twin exhaust cut-outs). He also had just put the engine/tranny back in but couldn't get the clutch to work. He gave up and I bought it. It's been sitting in my yard (unstarted) ever since. I've finally gotten around to working on it (since most of the bugs have now been fixed on my '86 GT).

The duke runs fine in this '84, I've just got to fix the problems that I inherited from the previous owner (most of which are listed in my first post).

I have discovered though that the more I dig into this car, the more I realize that some people (ie. the previous owner) shouldn't be allowed to work on cars!
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Report this Post09-28-2009 10:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
I got a new Bosch from Pep Boys. They say it fits all dukes, 84 - 88. Metal impeller, looks well made:

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Report this Post09-28-2009 10:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TopNotchClick Here to visit TopNotch's HomePageSend a Private Message to TopNotchDirect Link to This Post
I don't think there was a problem with plastic impellers on duke water pumps -- just V6's. I think all duke water pumps have a cast metal impeller.
You may have to also replace your cam timing gear if the cover was rubbing against it. It's made of phenolic (a fiber resin material), and can't take much abuse.
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Report this Post09-29-2009 02:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by spark1:

I got a new Bosch from Pep Boys. They say it fits all dukes, 84 - 88. Metal impeller, looks well made:



I'll see if my local parts store can get the Bosch 97055 water pump. Thanks for the info!
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Originally posted by TopNotch:

I don't think there was a problem with plastic impellers on duke water pumps -- just V6's. I think all duke water pumps have a cast metal impeller.



If that's the case then that's good (for anyone with a duke).

 
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You may have to also replace your cam timing gear if the cover was rubbing against it. It's made of phenolic (a fiber resin material), and can't take much abuse.



I don't know if you saw This thread, but I posted a couple of images of the dent. Here's one...



You can see the dent's not very big. I'm hoping it was just barely touching the gear.

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Originally posted by josef644:

Yes it will end,when you get you a Toyota or a Honda. I read here somewhere " Welcome to the madness"


Im sorry but that is just ridiculous. I have an 84 Iron Duke and it is running clean as a whistle, you cant even hear the motor at idle, starts up every time and is just as reliable as any honda or toyota. My car runs and drives like a 2000. Its all about how the owner maintains his car.

"welcome to the madness" applies only to the stock V6 2.8 motors.

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Report this Post09-29-2009 03:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by FieroFury33:

I have an 84 Iron Duke and it is running clean as a whistle, you cant even hear the motor at idle...



Now that I find hard to believe! Let me explain...

To track down the "screaming" that turned out to be a dent in the timing cover rubbing the timing gear, I used a mechanic's stethosope. Just for fun I tried placing the metal bar of the stethoscope all over the engine to hear different sounds.

When I placed it on the intake manifold I could hear a loud rapid tick ticking sound. It's a sound that I identify with every duke I've ever heard running. I continued to place the metal rod all around the engine until I finally narrowed down what the heck was making that sound. It was the gol' darn injector in the throttle body. My gawd that sucker is noisy!

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Report this Post09-29-2009 03:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroFury33Send a Private Message to FieroFury33Direct Link to This Post
Well i idle at 850 rpms and my Duke has 74k on it so that may have a lot to do with it.
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