Basically, looking to make a hood "vent" out of these:



I'm caught between a couple different styles. Here are some pictures.

Driver style (Inspired by Tha Driver):


Slightly modified Driver style, titlted inwards a little:


Viper style:



Let's hear your opinions.

Thanks,
Chris.

Edit: Had to trim out some of the pictures cause all the downloading was slaughtering my poor internet.

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Are those off of a WS6?

The shape wont work well on a boxy Fiero. On my current project, I'm just cutting a hole and gluing some metal mesh behind it. Must more customization that way.

HI all

Below is a thread with pics of some different hood scoops..... Which might be of some help to judge how far back to put them.... From the thread pix, I would put them inline with the headlite cover... Not the front, but the back of the cover.... The airflow from the ground, thru the rad, and the fan should be ok, placed there..... At least that is what I gather from other people who will probably chime in and tell you what would be a good spot to place them, have talked about before.. Also, even with a cowl type hood I would imagine that water would still get in there, jus cut the hood up infront of the front trunk seals...... Either way, water/snow is still gonna get in there, from underneath.....

My .02 anyways......

Personally, imho, those'll look fantastic on the fiero.. Different is good! Keeps the imagination alive an tickin, lol...!! Any chance you could post a pic of them, on your fiero, in the position you want to install them......?

link: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075253.html

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Some people have made cut outs in the area next to the headlight buckets and added the vent in those locations. Basically, the air pressure exits into the front fender areas through the vents on either side.

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quote Originally posted by Rolling Thunder: Are those off of a WS6? The shape wont work well on a boxy Fiero. On my current project, I'm just cutting a hole and gluing some metal mesh behind it. Must more customization that way.

Negative, they're from a Grand Prix front bumper.

I was almost thinking of incorporating them into the Fiero front bumper at first, instead of the hood. Or, I was thinking of placing it similar to the vents on the older Vipers.



But this is just brainstorming, I doubt it'd look as good on a Fiero (with these specific "vents" anyways). We'll have to see tomorrow when I can get some pictures so I can get a better idea myself. Things always look much better in Imagination-land.

I've got two sets of them, perhaps that'll allow for a little more creativity, although I like to keep things rather minimalist.

IMSA GT's mentioned idea is great, perhaps if I put them in the bumper instead, I'll just use that to fix the headlight flappin'.

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The area right behind the radiator on the Fiero is a low-pressure area (on top of the hood) on almost all cars. If you mount them behind the radiator & in front of the "trunk" seal you'll be fine. High pressure under them; low pressure over them = extractor.
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Ignore this.

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You can only install the vents in the area behind the radiator and in front of the trunk seal.

Installing the vents in the front bumper will lower the pressure before the radiator - so no air throught the radiator to cool the engine.

Installing it at the back of the hood close to the windscreen will also not work, as that area is sealed of by the trunk seal rubber and it's also an outside high air pressure area.

Yeah, I realized that. I was thinking of just putting them up there for aesthetics, and then adding some vents like IMSA GT showed.

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Definitely my favorite, I think they would look really great on a brightly colored car like orange or yellow.

Score one for Viper style. Glad you like it.

Anybody else have an opinion?

None of the above. Although the last pic looks pretty cool.
If I used these, I'd put them inboard of the headlights either (nearly) straight across & even with the back of the lights - & swap sides from the photos, or vertical either near each other in the center of the hood or out near the lights (still even with the back of the lights).
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I notice your dogs have their winter coats on.

@ Paul - Hmmm... Care to do some quick Photoshopping/MS Painting? I've got an idea of what you mean in my head, but I'm not quite sure if I'm on the same wavelength as you.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: I notice your dogs have their winter coats on.

Heheh, they also have their winter appetites ready. The older male (lying down behind the female) is chewing an a large cow spine. They like to bring home all sorts of bones from the neighbours "death pit". Canada life, amirite?

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The only way they will be functunal is of ther are above the rad. i woul look at using some metal ones though. there made out of the same thing as on the Firebird fender vents and i cant tell you how many times i have had to replace them.

Well you must've been hitting too many jumps with your Firebird. These seem pretty durable. They lived through a front-right side collision, so they must at least have a little luck on their side.

quote Originally posted by Valkyrie: @ Paul - Hmmm... Care to do some quick Photoshopping/MS Painting? I've got an idea of what you mean in my head, but I'm not quite sure if I'm on the same wavelength as you.

Sent via email.
~ Paul
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I had these on my hood



They worked I guess, but I got tired of the look pretty quickly. On thinking about the cooling system I came to the conclusion that the radiator didn't really need the extra air and I now have flush mount lights so I didn't need them.

I went to a fan in my deck scoop instead.

What I didn't do though, but thought about it, was to mount a couple of pieces of 4" hose through the forward firewall into the "trunk" cavity and then have exit vents at the rear of the hood. It seems those vents might be just the thing for that idea.

For the forward position I think I'd put the flat side to the back with the squared corners in the center.

Just some thought.

Arn

quote Originally posted by Tha Driver: Sent via email. ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"

This is Paul's absolutely sick "Photoshop Pro-ing" job! I'm really liking this arrangement the best. Looks great and of course is functional as well! Thanks Paul!

quote Originally posted by Arns85GT: ...What I didn't do though, but thought about it, was to mount a couple of pieces of 4" hose through the forward firewall into the "trunk" cavity and then have exit vents at the rear of the hood. It seems those vents might be just the thing for that idea. For the forward position I think I'd put the flat side to the back with the squared corners in the center. Just some thought. Arn

I was thinking of running some sort of hose as well, but I wasn't sure exactly how I was going to do it. Thanks for the suggestion!

open the front hood
look towards the front
see the "wall"? it has a rubber seal across the top
this is the area that needs venting
behind the radiator, in front of the wall

or - from the outside: between the headlight door/covers

quote Originally posted by Valkyrie: This is Paul's absolutely sick "Photoshop Pro-ing" job! I'm really liking this arrangement the best. Looks great and of course is functional as well! Thanks Paul!

That's actually "Paint Shop Pro"-ing. Paint Shop Pro is a great program that will do anything 99% of folks need (& a whole lot more), & it only costs $100 (or did several years ago when I bought it). Hummm: interesting I just went to the website to check on that price & it's on sale for $49 right now. http://www.corel.com/servle...ew=tab1&tabview=tab0
I'm not entirely sure it's the same program I have, though. Apparently bought by Corel. Might want to ask them if it has all the same functions as Paint Shop Pro V.7. PM me if you find out or if you have any questions.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Why do they call it reckless driving if it causes wrecks?

I don't think these vents would work on a fiero.

Great idea though. Maybe with the right vents it's worth cutting up the hood on the Fiero..

IMHO, scoops flow better with the lines, than vents. (maybe you can use vents to cover the exposed side of the scoops)

I've thought about scoops as well. But I've never been really a big fan of them, at least on Fieros. Vents just seem more "fitting" for the application. I like to keep things rather subtle and minimalistic, and I think, once I get these in and get everything painted and ironed out, they'll just kinda blend in with the hood. At least, this is how I'm picturing it in my head.

quote Originally posted by Austrian Import: I don't think these vents would work on a fiero. Great idea though. Maybe with the right vents it's worth cutting up the hood on the Fiero.. IMHO, scoops flow better with the lines, than vents. (maybe you can use vents to cover the exposed side of the scoops)

they will help, slightly - but - yes - being they will be sloped to grab air - not release air - they will not be as effective as other layouts. but - they will likely be enough to keep the headlight covers from popping up.

Took some more pictures for fun, added them to the first post, I think these angles do the vents way more justice.

Poor ol' Whitey felt left out, so I gave her a quick picture with them.

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quote Originally posted by Pyrthian: they will help, slightly - but - yes - being they will be sloped to grab air - not release air - they will not be as effective as other layouts. but - they will likely be enough to keep the headlight covers from popping up.

They'll work just fine there. It's a low-pressure area on top of the hood, & a high-pressure area under the hood. A LOT of air will come out of them.
Maybe not as much as my hood vent....
~ Paul
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Definitely starting to lean towards the radiator area install over the Viper style. Seems like a lot more work and less functionality to get the Viper style installed vs the Driver style. And the modified Driver style really seems to come off as aggressive. Sorta reminds me of a G8 front end somehow...

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