So I've been trying to find a replacement for this plate with seals that sits between the fuel lines and fuel rail. I haven't yet found anybody that has them and so I've been considering other options. (It appears the FS has them but they are ~$40)


1) Has anybody ever had a problem with fuel leaking from this location?

2) I've been considering replacing the built in seals with fuel safe o-rings that are sized to fit. However, I'm interested to know if there are any better ideas out there. Have any?















Thanks!

[This message has been edited by GraterFang (edited 09-08-2010).]

the fiero store has them for sale if im correct. they're not that expensive

quote Originally posted by outlawfiero17: the fiero store has them for sale if im correct. they're not that expensive

Ahh, I looked but happened to miss them there. You're right that they are there but I wouldn't call them inexpensive. $37.95 + shipping seems a pretty hefty price for something so small to me.

Bump....nobody had a problem with paying ~$40 for this piece and found another solution? Or has nobody had a problem with this in the first place?

For the money I'd try a substitute however I have not had the problem, and if I did I'd have used a spare Fuel Pressure Regulator I have from a junk engine.

They've really got balls pricing 2 "O-Rings" at $38 ! Will "ANYONE HERE" admit to paying that for that part ??!

quote Originally posted by Lou6t4gto: They've really got balls pricing 2 "O-Rings" at $38 ! Will "ANYONE HERE" admit to paying that for that part ??!

My thoughts exactly!

quote Originally posted by GraterFang: Bump....nobody had a problem with paying ~$40 for this piece and found another solution? Or has nobody had a problem with this in the first place?

We know Fiero owners are cheap, but I for one would not risk a gasoline leak and engine fire to save a few bucks. What's your car worth (not $40??)?

It's specific part and they are not regular o-rings. The seals are integral in the part. I replaced mine and I don't expect I'll ever have to replace it again (original lasted 23 years).

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[This message has been edited by fierosound (edited 09-08-2010).]

quote Originally posted by fierosound: We know Fiero owners are cheap, but I for one would not risk a gasoline leak and engine fire to save a few bucks. What's your car worth (not $40??)? It's specific part and they are not regular o-rings. The seals are integral in the part. I replaced mine and I don't expect I'll ever have to replace it again (original lasted 23 years).

I'm not against spending money on my projects. I'm not even particularly opposed to spending $40 to fix a leak (after all...$40 dollars is a petty amount compared to the value of a car or even the safety of it's passengers). It's just that I feel that's kind of overpriced for such a small part. Yes, the o-rings are integrated but it still seems a bit hefty to me...but then again...what do I know? I was curious if there were any fiero owners that had found cheaper viable solutions or even other sources. I'm willing to replace the part if necessary but figured that the wealth of knowledge that is this forum might have other ideas.

I just went out & dismantled one. it sure looks to me , that instead of just machining the plate to accept "normal " o-rings (when they first designed it,), they had it in their heads "ahead of time " that someone was going to get a royal screwing in the future! just my oppinion.

quote Originally posted by GraterFang: I'm not against spending money on my projects. I'm not even particularly opposed to spending $40 to fix a leak (after all...$40 dollars is a petty amount compared to the value of a car or even the safety of it's passengers). It's just that I feel that's kind of overpriced for such a small part.

Agreed. Yup - it's pricey. But probably cost more from a Pontiac dealer IF it were still available. If not for Fiero Store, you couldn't even get a new one. Then where would you be?

In answer to the question,"if fiero factory didn't offer it, where would you be", I'd be drilling out the plate to install a Larger O-Ring. not rocket scince. Looks like what they "should have done" to begin with, was, Cut (groove) both the rail & the line attachment to except a regular O-Ring to begin with. I'm sure any machine shop could make the "alteration" . Theres always an alternative method.

quote Originally posted by Lou6t4gto: In answer to the question,"if fiero factory didn't offer it, where would you be", I'd be drilling out the plate to install a Larger O-Ring. not rocket scince. Looks like what they "should have done" to begin with, was, Cut (groove) both the rail & the line attachment to except a regular O-Ring to begin with. I'm sure any machine shop could make the "alteration" . Theres always an alternative method.

Agreed. Sounds so simple - and sounds like more work and $$ though.
I haven't found a machine shop that works for less than $40/hour (usually 1 hour minimum billing).
Luckily, the part IS available.

[This message has been edited by fierosound (edited 09-09-2010).]

GraterFang - what did you do?

$40 really isn't bad by the time you figure the costs of making the tooling to stamp the plates and then inject the rubber compound for the seals. They're not going to sell a whole lot of them so the price has to reflect their need to re-coup their initial costs.

Personally, I'd just spend the $40 if I couldn't find another fuel rail in good shape. I wouldn't want to risk a leak by using a home-made part.

[This message has been edited by Alibi (edited 09-14-2010).]

Thanks for checking in. I ended up finding another plate that had better looking seals on it, although they are still old of course. I suspect that it'll work but if it doesn't I'm still unsure what I'll do. I agree that spending $40 isn't a horrible price for fixing a leak and would do that if this engine isn't a temporary powerplant for moving the car aound. It's the easiest and safest solution despite the high price. However, with that in consideration, I would probably attempt to put something together myself. I can't think of any reason why a couple of properly sized o-rings (maybe even with a small metal ring to keep them from collapsing) wouldn't work just fine. This car isn't a daily driver by any means so I'm willing to experiment a little if it comes to that. If I do end up doing any such thing I'll update the thread further.