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fastback sail panel attachment tape-3M part number? by fiamma
Started on: 06-16-2012 08:29 PM
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Report this Post06-16-2012 08:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fiammaSend a Private Message to fiammaDirect Link to This Post
I know it's 3M but what part number for tape that works?
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Report this Post06-17-2012 01:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierofoolDirect Link to This Post
This from Paul McKibben of Fierosails.com......quote:

NOTE: To attach the sail panels to the frame, use 3M double sided tape, Stock No. 06384 (1/2" x 0.045" x 5 yd) available from NAPA, Pep Boys, and other similar parts stores. Ask for it by the 3M stock number. (THIS TAPE IS FOR THE NOTCHBACK SAIL PANEL ONLY, NOT THE FASTBACK VERSION. We understand the correct stock number for fastback windows is 3M 06450 or 3M 4004. This is second-hand information and we have not verified these numbers.) If you can't locate the correct tape we can provide it attached to your sail panels. This way all you have to do is peel off the protective backing on the tape and stick the sail panel to the car. WARNING! In one instance that we know of, use of the wrong tape caused the paint to peel from the back of the sail panel and the panel came loose. Use the recommended tape so you avoid this problem.

Another tape which will work well is 3M Stock No. 03609. This is identical to Stock No. 06384 but is only 5 feet long. This is enough to do one sail panel, but comes up about 16 inches short for two panels.
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Originally posted by fierofool:

This from Paul McKibben of Fierosails.com......quote:

NOTE: To attach the sail panels to the frame, use 3M double sided tape, Stock No. 06384 (1/2" x 0.045" x 5 yd) available from NAPA, Pep Boys, and other similar parts stores. Ask for it by the 3M stock number. (THIS TAPE IS FOR THE NOTCHBACK SAIL PANEL ONLY, NOT THE FASTBACK VERSION. We understand the correct stock number for fastback windows is 3M 06450 or 3M 4004. This is second-hand information and we have not verified these numbers.) If you can't locate the correct tape we can provide it attached to your sail panels. This way all you have to do is peel off the protective backing on the tape and stick the sail panel to the car. WARNING! In one instance that we know of, use of the wrong tape caused the paint to peel from the back of the sail panel and the panel came loose. Use the recommended tape so you avoid this problem.

Another tape which will work well is 3M Stock No. 03609. This is identical to Stock No. 06384 but is only 5 feet long. This is enough to do one sail panel, but comes up about 16 inches short for two panels.


This is NOT the tape you want to use for the fastback sail windows. I REPEAT... DO NOT USE THIS TAPE. The tape that Paul is talking about is for the notchback sail insert.

It even says so right in his discription!

From what I have been told, the fastback tape can only be bought in very large rolls and is very expensive. You might be best to contact Doug at www.fierowarehouse.com . He will sell you just enough of the correct tape to do a pail of sails.

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Report this Post06-18-2012 07:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TXGOODClick Here to visit TXGOOD's HomePageSend a Private Message to TXGOODDirect Link to This Post
I just bought the minimum of 36 yards of the 3M 4959 VHB tape which is one of the only 120mil foam tape that 3M carries.
It is similar to the 4225 which I believe was originally used.
I installed my windows this weekend and this stuff sticks.
I will sell you some for 1.00 a foot plus shipping, which is basically what I paid for it.
Mike

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Originally posted by JimmyS:


This is NOT the tape you want to use for the fastback sail windows. I REPEAT... DO NOT USE THIS TAPE. The tape that Paul is talking about is for the notchback sail insert.

It even says so right in his discription!

From what I have been told, the fastback tape can only be bought in very large rolls and is very expensive. You might be best to contact Doug at www.fierowarehouse.com . He will sell you just enough of the correct tape to do a pail of sails.



He also follows it up with this. Quote: We understand the correct stock number for fastback windows is 3M 06450 or 3M 4004. End quote. He does say it's second hand info.

I used it when replacing my brother's windows a couple of years ago and they were still in place until we removed them last month to repaint his car. Thanks for the correct part number. Trying to convince him to get a set of yours this go-round.
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Report this Post06-18-2012 09:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
I am just wondering if the same positioning technique that I use for applying the wood dash kits can be used. In this technique I apply a film of water (with a few drops of liquid dish detergent added) with a spray bottle to the sufaces where the dash pieces are being apllied. I then press the dash pieces in place and squeegee out the water. The water film allows correct and precise poisitioning. In 24 hours the pieces are held fast but this is a different adhesive. This technique is also use for window film. The problem with replacing the quarter windows is that once they are pressed in place the bond becomes permanent. Positioning is critical and hard to do without being able to shift them. Perhaps windshield adhesive would be a better choice..

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Report this Post06-18-2012 09:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TXGOODClick Here to visit TXGOOD's HomePageSend a Private Message to TXGOODDirect Link to This Post
On my quarter windows I dry fitted them and I was able to run them up against the drip edge for a good fit.
The passenger side went on perfectly but the rear of the drivers side slipped about an 1/8".
I just tapped the drip edge down a bit to cover the gap.
The guy at 3M said I could use isopropyl alcohol and a 50/50 mixture of water to clean the surface and then when the tape was applied put a little on the sticky side of the tape to be able to shift the windows a bit.
Then as the water/alcohol evaporates it actually sucks the tape onto the surface it is being applied to.

Edit: I have seen on a couple of different threads people talking about the amount of tape it takes.
I have seen 5-8 feet for both windows but that is incorrect.
When you pull the old ones off they have tape all the way around the perimeter which requires appx 7 ft per window.
30" pieces top and bottom / about 15" front piece and about a 4" rear piece.

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