Hi all,
Need to buy a clutch for my 88' L67 getrag Formula. Engine is close to stock other than pulley, and typical Fiero modifications, exhaust, intake and programming. Has anyone used this clutch? I will be using the modified Camaro flywheel. I can find any torque numbers on this clutch. Also I cannot find it on the Ram website. Also have considered the Spec stage 3+, but the price has me searching for other options. Definitely want a full face, non puc style for drivability. Opinions wanted,

Thanks,

I have one in my 4.9 / Getrag car.

Love it.

I have used SPEC 3 in all my manual 3800 swaps with no issues. This is one area u dont wanna skimp on inless u like changing out clutches.

Yeah, it would nice to get additional feedback on this RAM 9 3/4 diameter clutch supplied by TFS.

Even those equipped with a stock 2.8l should chime in...

Interesting clutch topic.

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fierogt28

88 GT, Loaded, 5-speed.
88 GT, 5-speed. All original.

[This message has been edited by fierogt28 (edited 11-14-2012).]

I appreciate the information thus far. I do not want to replace this clutch several time...... While the Ram is 299.99, and the Spec 3+ is 420.00, if I go with the Ram first and find that it will not hold, then I will be forced to buy the SPEC bringing the total to over $700 not to mention having to replace the clutch again. I am hoping to hear from some folks that have this clutch in a 3800 SC car. I am not sure what Ram is advertising this clutch to hold at. I am unable to even find this clutch on their website. I have read that although The Fiero Store advertises this as a 9 & 3/4" it is really a 9 & 5/8", this size does not matter to me however it may produce some confusion when speaking to the manufacturer. I may try to call Ram today and get to the bottom of this.

Raydar, was there any clearance issues? I saw some post where someone had some issues. Are you running an OEM style hydraulic slave and throwout bearing? Any clue what type of torque you are making? From what I have read, the L67 was advertised at 260-280 ft/lbs, while people say its more like 310 from the factory without modifications.

[This message has been edited by poncho_101 (edited 11-15-2012).]

Poncho, I'm running the hydraulic throwout bearing, since I have a later Getrag.
The clearance between the release bearing and the pressure plate fingers was tighter than I would have liked, but it didn't look to be a problem.
Looked like I'd be well into the rivets before the clutch wore enough to put the fingers into the release bearing.

FWIW, the 4.9 is 275 lb.ft., stock. I'm running an Allante intake, as well.
Guessing around 290-300 lb.ft., now.
I try not to do clutch drops, since I don't want to have to replace my tranny any time soon, but as soon as I shift to 2nd gear, and the clutch is fully released, I can mat the gas and kick the car sideways from a slow roll. No slipping.

Edit - the Fiero Store clutch appears to be a regularly stocked RAM part. I'm pretty sure that TFS just resells it.
If you find my "hydraulic TOB" thread, the part # is in there. (I'm at work now. Don't have time.)
IIRC, they also have one for the hydraulic TOB Beretta/Corsica tranny. Same size. 9 5/8". (That's what mine measures.)

[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 11-15-2012).]

Spec 3 or Clutchnet or you will be hating paying for two clutches when that Ram slips on ya. If you are going to end up spending the $700, just get the Spec and save the $300 for a N* TB.

I started off with a Centerforce clutch( like Archie uses in the V8 swaps) it didn't last very long at all. Like 1.5 months!
Went with a Spec3 it has held just fine for my hard driving. No chatter after break-in.

Between the trans/ slave/clutch ( we all know how problematic all that is) I would invest in a good proven clutch, a MR2 slave rebuild, and good cables. Then you will have no worries.

Have you done a search on here for a ram/3800 set up? That ram is mainly for a stock 2.8, want some real # email spec or clutchnet

Hi there,
I am currently shopping for a clutch for one of my Fieros which I am doing an engine conversion on.  I found this clutch and am trying to identify it on your website for more information.  I had read somewhere this was actually a 9 & 5/8" that they were advertising incorrectly.  I was hoping to get some projected numbers in regards to torque holding capacity.  This is the clutch in question.  http://www.fierostore.com/P...px?s=54007&d=103&p=2

I am also considering this clutch,
http://www.fierostore.com/P...px?s=54003&d=103&p=2

If you provide me with some more information on these clutches as well as corresponding RAM part numbers I would certainly appreciate it.  Also, do you sell directly or only through dealers,

Regards,
David Johnson

[This message has been edited by poncho_101 (edited 11-16-2012).]

I installed the 9-3/4" clutch from TFS back in '97. Fifteen years and thousands of miles later it recently started to slip. Even though I'm replacing the RAM clutch pack with a SPEC setup, I would have to highly endorse the oversized RAM package.

Ricksmastermix, what engine are you running?

I'm using the 9.75" Fiero Store clutch on my 4.9 and it holds the power just fine. I dynoed at 265 ft*lbs when my motor was running too rich and it should be making more now and it still holds. Clutch feels light, just like stock. I'm using the stock pressure plate.

quote Originally posted by poncho_101: David,   I am showing them as 88644hd which is 9 5/8" and 88644 which is 9 1/8" respectively. the 88644 will hold stock horsepower and the 88644hd will 40% over stock HP   Doug RAM Clutches

Okay. That confirms that the Fiero Store just resells "in stock" RAM pieces.
Here's mine.

[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 11-15-2012).]

I'm using the TFS Ram clutch on my 3.1
been working great.

Looking at the SPEC Stage 2+ currently. Trying to understand the difference between all the materials. Anyone have any experience? Cant ever plan to need the holding capacity of the 3+ although it looks nice.

I can't comment on a 2+, but I had a Spec 2 in my 3.4 car.
It sucked.
Chattered when it was cold and slipped when it was hot.

That clutch is precisely why I went with a conventional clutch. I've always had good luck with them, considering my driving style. (I generally don't go to the strip.)
Just went with the RAM because size matters.

Radar,
I also want a traditional clutch. If I could find someone running that clutch in a SC car with success i'd be sold. I'm glad to hear yours is holding. I also dread having a long break in time, which is another + for traditional. Going to need to make a decision soon as my wiring is coming closer to completion.

Basically, no one complains about the 9.75" clutch from the Fiero Store.

trust me I would love to buy the Fiero store RAM clutch and save the extra cash. It has a ton of great qualities. I love the fact that it is an OEM style, unfortunitly the horse power ratings suggest that it can hold 40 % HP over stock. So that's 196 HP. Factory 3800 L67 is 240 HP from the factory. I am guessing that will just a few things done this car will have at least 265-275. That's a fifty percent increase in HP. I was unable to get any torque information. Again, just would like some comments from someone who has run one behind a L67. That's not to say that I don't appreciate everyone else's comments as well.