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Cruise/TCC switch for brake pedal by Will
Started on: 01-15-2013 10:56 PM
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Report this Post01-15-2013 10:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

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Originally posted by qwikgta:

So according to the fiero wire diagram, I can either tap into the yellow/black wire here at the brake switch, or the purple wire at the cruise control cutout solenoid. I know I need to use the purple wire for the CC so it may be best to tap into this yellow/black wire and run it through the center console to the ECM.

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I need to find the upper (with yellow and black wires) of these two switches. Does anyone have the part number?

I @$$ume that in the first pic, the switch with pink/purple wires is the TCC brake switch, while the yellow and yellow/black wires are the cruise brake switch?
I didn't think to check on the TCC wiring earlier in the evening when I had my FSM in front of me...

I want to use that switch module on the clutch in lieu of the cruise clutch switch/vacuum valve combo currently there. The Shelby PCM for the Northstar wants a clutch switch, and I think that using the TCC/cruise brake switch instead of the original cruise clutch switch would give me the second set of contacts I need.

I can snag one from a parts car this weekend, but I'd rather know what I'm getting, and haven't been able to find a listing for it or images like it on Google.

Thanks!
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Report this Post01-17-2013 09:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
Bump... Anyone have the catalog listing or part number?
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Report this Post01-17-2013 09:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroWannaBeSend a Private Message to FieroWannaBeDirect Link to This Post
ACDELCO Part # D895A

That is the correct switch I believe... I have no idea as to the GM number.

It looks like there are 3-4 different versions of the brake switches,

Auto w/o Cruise
Auto w/ Cruise
Standard w/o Cruise
Standard w/ Cruise maybe ?
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Report this Post01-17-2013 03:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
This is a Delco D895A... not the right switch at all

http://www.ryderfleetproduc...p-switch-p-w82-d895a




This is the current cruise clutch switch:
Delco 212-347:
http://www.rmsautoparts.com...ail.php?prod=212-347



This is the Brake LIGHT switch:
(D895A *MAY* be interchangeable with this, but this isn't the switch I'm looking for)
Delco D853A:
http://www.amazon.com/ACDel...sembly/dp/B0013FHT32



Clutch Starter switch:
GM 15569768 ("Clutch Starter Safety Switch") I *think* this is a D2271A

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../HTML/114129.html#p5


I'm using Google images, amazon, the all but useless AC Delco Parts Catalog... the whole nine yards.

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Every switch in the P22 on the brake pedal is labeled as a stop light switch, with at least as many parts numbers as years and engine/trans combinations. Im not putting a lot of faith that something would be described as a TCC / cruise switch seperatly, since Im sure GM bastardized part usage all over the place.

The rockauto catalog lists all cruise control brake switches as 5-pin units. Non cruise vehicles as 4 pin.

EDIT:

Does PN 25529860 work?

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Report this Post01-17-2013 04:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
This page: http://www.rmsautoparts.com...p?prod=D852A&cat=117

Claims that the 25529860 part has been superceded by D852A, which *appears* to be the same as D853A, except that it takes a metri-pack 150 connector on the 2-pin end.
The mounting shank on the D895A is too small in diameter for the mounting location.

Found a parts catalog diagram:

http://parts.nalleygmc.com/...ukey_assembly=393698



I'm looking for #3.
The diagram shows it as being the same between the clutch and the brake, but on my car it is not.
Unfortunately, they don't have a listing for it.
I guess I'll have to pull it out of my car and get the number directly.

#9, #10 and #11 are the alternatives for the lower brake switch, depending on options.
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The part number for that switch is 10024217. It appears that they are no longer available new.
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Originally posted by Rick Vanderpool:

The part number for that switch is 10024217. It appears that they are no longer available new.


EXCELLENT!
Yes, that's that I'm looking for. Thank you!

Quick google finds these:

http://www.gmpartsclub.com/...ease-switch/10024217
http://www.rarenosparts.com...WITCH-NOS_p_220.html

I'll also check with CarQuest and the local GM dealer to see what they know.
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Report this Post01-25-2013 09:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for qwikgtaSend a Private Message to qwikgtaDirect Link to This Post
Will, in that first picture, is that a Fiero? I have a manual and so I don't have the TCC switch, but that picture shows a third switch/pigtail with the purple/pink wire harness that Ryan say's I will need for my TCC wire (C1-30). I ask because I find it odd that a manual car would have the TCC switch/harness on it.

maybe im wrong, so please let me know. If its not a Fiero, then any idea what it is. If i can snag the pigtail from another GM car, that will solve my problem.

Thanks

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The first photo is of an auto to manual swap from a thread elsewhere on the forum.

My car has the same brake switch, but does not have the pink/purple torque converter clutch wiring
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Originally posted by Will:

The first photo is of an auto to manual swap from a thread elsewhere on the forum.

My car has the same brake switch, but does not have the pink/purple torque converter clutch wiring


in all your research, have you found another source for the ppl/pnk pigtail harness? I'd have to assume that GM would have used these pigtail/switch's on other cars of the same years. I did a quick search at the junkyard a few weekends ago, and noticed that all the other GM cars of the same years had a lot of extra "plastic crap" covering the footwell area. At the time I didn't have the patience to sit and take it all off to search for the pigtail. I had just broke a ratchet trying to remove a 98 GP Axle.

If you have any other data, i'd appreciate it. I can share what I find too. I may be back in the j-yard on Monday if the WX gets better.

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Report this Post01-26-2013 12:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
I have the connector on the parts car and will be pulling it off the weekend of the 2nd. If it has a part number on it, I'll share that, as well as the part number of the pin type.
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