Did anyone ask Hulki what he thought of our great community, how his car is still Strong and kicking, or if he reads PFF ??

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Does Hulki actually own a Fiero?

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i was wandering this too. hell whats he do now?

Soaper

I was there when Hulki was asked if he had a fiero ( Fiero John can back this ).
He said he has a GTA..... Thats correct he has a 90 prototype. It blew all of us away.
As far as what he thought of our community, he stated at the dinner that he never would have thought that 20yrs later we would be such a strong and big community, he said we are building the cars he wanted to make (refering to the guys with V8's). You can see the interview if you buy the DVD.
Hope this helps!
Anthony

quote Originally posted by ambfiero: I was there when Hulki was asked if he had a fiero ( Fiero John can back this ). He said he has a GTA..... Thats correct he has a 90 prototype. It blew all of us away. As far as what he thought of our community, he stated at the dinner that he never would have thought that 20yrs later we would be such a strong and big community, he said we are building the cars he wanted to make (refering to the guys with V8's). You can see the interview if you buy the DVD. Hope this helps! Anthony

That doesn't surprise me one bit about him having a prototype, he had very easily access to all the parts, probably bought an '88 and had his 'boys' convert it it right in the shop.

Regarding the comment on the V8's, enough information had 'leaked' out of GM on the early V8 prototypes being outstanding performers, the people outside GM took action on it. While mine isn't the earliest conversion, it's been on the road since 1993 in it's converted state.

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There was a question and answer session after Hulki spoke.
Someone asked him pretty much point-blank about the rumor that the Fiero was killed because the Chevy guys were afraid that the Fiero was going to hammer the 'Vette.
He said that there were many reasons involved in the decision to cancel the car; both financial and political.
He hesitated a minute, then went on to say that "yes they had a test car with an aluminum V-8 that would have blown the doors off the Corvette". Apparently it was being tested in a remote area of the proving grounds, and someone from Chevrolet discovered what was happening, and they (Pontiac) got caught. He said that people *were not* happy.

Did anybody else hear this the same as I did?

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Raydar

88 3.4 coupe. 17s, cut springs 'n all.

quote Originally posted by Soaper: i was wandering this too. hell whats he do now? Soaper

I don't know what he is doing now but I know he was President of Entech in Troy Michigan at the time of the Fieros passing. He was working on new space frame technology with plastic body shells.

quote Originally posted by Raydar: There was a question and answer session after Hulki spoke. Someone asked him pretty much point-blank about the rumor that the Fiero was killed because the Chevy guys were afraid that the Fiero was going to hammer the 'Vette. He said that there were many reasons involved in the decision to cancel the car; both financial and political. He hesitated a minute, then went on to say that "yes they had a test car with an aluminum V-8 that would have blown the doors off the Corvette". Apparently it was being tested in a remote area of the proving grounds, and someone from Chevrolet discovered what was happening, and they (Pontiac) got caught. He said that people *were not* happy. Did anybody else hear this the same as I did?

I hope he wasn't trying to imply that the Vette guy immediately went to upper management and had the Fiero cancelled....

quote Originally posted by Roylmohr: I don't know what he is doing now but I know he was President of Entech in Troy Michigan at the time of the Fieros passing. He was working on new space frame technology with plastic body shells.

He went to Saturn after he left Entech in 1990. Not sure if he is still involved there or not.

quote [B]Originally posted by Raydar:["yes they had a test car with an aluminum V-8 that would have blown the doors off the Corvette". Apparently it was being tested in a remote area of the proving grounds, and someone from Chevrolet discovered what was happening, and they (Pontiac) got caught. He said that people *were not* happy. Did anybody else hear this the same as I did?

Paul Vargyas told me the same story you just related above so he heard it too.
I wish i had been able to hear him speak. I'm anxious to get that dvd!

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quote Originally posted by ambfiero: I was there when Hulki was asked if he had a fiero ( Fiero John can back this ). He said he has a GTA..... Thats correct he has a 90 prototype. It blew all of us away. As far as what he thought of our community, he stated at the dinner that he never would have thought that 20yrs later we would be such a strong and big community, he said we are building the cars he wanted to make (refering to the guys with V8's). You can see the interview if you buy the DVD. Hope this helps! Anthony

Are you submitting footage of this interview to the DVD ??? cant wait to see it. PM me .

quote Originally posted by Raydar: There was a question and answer session after Hulki spoke. Someone asked him pretty much point-blank about the rumor that the Fiero was killed because the Chevy guys were afraid that the Fiero was going to hammer the 'Vette. He said that there were many reasons involved in the decision to cancel the car; both financial and political. He hesitated a minute, then went on to say that "yes they had a test car with an aluminum V-8 that would have blown the doors off the Corvette". Apparently it was being tested in a remote area of the proving grounds, and someone from Chevrolet discovered what was happening, and they (Pontiac) got caught. He said that people *were not* happy. Did anybody else hear this the same as I did?

Yup, that's how I heard/understood it. Hulki said the Fiero was kind of Pontiac's black sheep, and the cancellation was due mostly to financial issues (increased labor costs because of more workers in the plants) and a few political factors. Spanking the Corvette wasn't the demise of the Fiero, but he acted as if it was a contributing factor in the political aspects of the Fiero cancellation.

Bryce
88 GT

Too bad Hulki doesnt start up his own Fiero shop. Imagine the inovations we would see.

quote Originally posted by ambfiero: I was there when Hulki was asked if he had a fiero ( Fiero John can back this ). He said he has a GTA..... Thats correct he has a 90 prototype. It blew all of us away. As far as what he thought of our community, he stated at the dinner that he never would have thought that 20yrs later we would be such a strong and big community, he said we are building the cars he wanted to make (refering to the guys with V8's). You can see the interview if you buy the DVD. Hope this helps! Anthony

I heard this same story about 3 years ago or so when Hulki spoke at a Michigan meet banquet.

AHHHH HAH!!!
So the mythical "ALCOA" aluminum fiero did exist!!
Wow, just think how legendary the fiero could have been... err.. is.. err was, ah take your pick.

Oh darn, I misread aluminum V8... Oh well, the myth lives on.

[This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 07-26-2003).]

did anyone tell Hulki to join the boards?

quote Originally posted by 84Bill: AHHHH HAH!!! So the mythical "ALCOA" aluminum fiero did exist!! Wow, just think how legendary the fiero could have been... err.. is.. err was, ah take your pick. Oh darn, I misread aluminum V8... Oh well, the myth lives on. [This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 07-26-2003).]

Hey Bill, I'm sure GM studied and may have even constructed an aluminum chassis, but it got 'canned' very early in the game. It took Audi over 8 years working with ALCOA to develope theirs for production. It is extremely cost prohibitive (except on hi-end luxury cars where they can get the money back) due to special processes, and very expensive 'hi-bred' structural adhesives used in conjunction with heli-arc, and spot welds. It's one of the reasons that the Honda NSX was so expensive.

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Here's a thought, if Hulki does actually own a GTA, maybe he could be persuaded to let some one "borrow" it to pull molds off of it and study a little more closely what was added/modified to he 88 chassis. I mean he saw the huge following the community has and how much the '90 meant to us, I really can't see why he wouldn't let someone use it to further promote his idea of how the car should have been built. Jusst my .02.

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quote Originally posted by Fierofreak00: Here's a thought, if Hulki does actually own a GTA, maybe he could be persuaded to let some one "borrow" it to pull molds off of it and study a little more closely what was added/modified to he 88 chassis. I mean he saw the huge following the community has and how much the '90 meant to us, I really can't see why he wouldn't let someone use it to further promote his idea of how the car should have been built. Jusst my .02.

if thats the case . he could give us all the info you would need from useing his car himself.

How many people are now blaming the vette for the cancelation and the chevy guys??? I certainly am now, I can say right now I am mad at the vette. Die vette, die!!!! LOL

Kruz

KRuzn MAchines, I'm with you on that...Look at how many people have heard the same story. Chevy is the bigger company in GM! I don't understand WHY GM would give them jourisdiction over the Pontiac branch. But Chevy being the big boys in the GM Picture, and competition with Ford's Mustang, I can understand why they would feel threatened by a Mid V8Engine, Fiberglass Sports Car! At that time, wasn't the 400cid V8 Pontiac's bad boy? That or almost any V8 engine in a Fiero would poses great power and speed over a Corvette. I love the older Vettes, dislike the new vettes. But from hearing the childsplay that went on in GM 18-20 years ago, I am disapointed in Chevy's Play in the game!

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quote Originally posted by Quad GT: Too bad Hulki doesnt start up his own Fiero shop. Imagine the inovations we would see...

...like V8's, choptops, suicide doors, etc.

I'll just say that it tells you something when more that a couple new Corvette owners have offered an even title swap to get there hands on my car!!! Call me crazy, but I didn't take them up on it.

quote Originally posted by California Kid: I'll just say that it tells you something when more that a couple new Corvette owners have offered an even title swap to get there hands on my car!!! Call me crazy, but I didn't take them up on it.

You're crazy, but I respect that (see sig)

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quote Originally posted by California Kid: I'll just say that it tells you something when more that a couple new Corvette owners have offered an even title swap to get there hands on my car!!! Call me crazy, but I didn't take them up on it.

I, for one, think you made the right decision. Your car is one of a kind.

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Raydar

88 3.4 coupe. 17s, cut springs 'n all.

quote Originally posted by ambfiero: I was there when Hulki was asked if he had a fiero ( Fiero John can back this ). He said he has a GTA..... Anthony

He only has one?

quote Originally posted by 84Bill: AHHHH HAH!!! So the mythical "ALCOA" aluminum fiero did exist!! Wow, just think how legendary the fiero could have been... err.. is.. err was, ah take your pick. [This message has been edited by 84Bill (edited 07-26-2003).]

I have read somewhere that GM did build 2 1986 fiero's with the alcan alum chassis. In fact they wanted to bring them to production eventually. The opel speedster has a alum chassis-weighs only around 2000 lbs because of this.
One drawback of an alum chasis is that it would require body shops to have their own separate bay to work on these cars. If they were worked on near steel body cars they could ruin the finish on a freshly painted steel body car.