I was out rollerblading with my girlfriend and saw this parked near a park on the side of a road in Vancouver. I had to stop and take some pictures of it. The quality is bad, but you can still see it. Its a pretty nice custom front end that looks like its made off of a formula front end...
------------------ FURIOUS FIERO '86 2M4-Sold :( ...Looking for V6 Manual
I like it, the combination of the best looking coupe facia style with the big mouth, so often seen right now, works. It looks like a Fiero, as it should. I give it an A+ with only one suggestion, close the bottom so that the air flows through the radiator instead of under the car (it also looks bad to see pavement when you look into the opening).
Nice car, are there vents on that hood, I can't tell for sure from that picture.
Very well done, and creative too! I like it... the only thing is, that aside from the hood vents (which appear to be just screen-covered holes) and wheels - the car is still essentially stock in appearance. It need a little more "flare" yet. Still, very nice!
Now that's what I want !!!! That nose retains the lines of the Formula nose and still gives a whole new "updated" appearance !!! Now who is gonna make on for me !!!
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Aug 19th, 2003
fieromadman Member
Posts: 2217 From: Oconomowoc WI, USA Registered: Jan 2003
I think that the GT noses have to long of a shape but i dont like how the formula noses curve donw at the botom, that has the straight down air dam look and its shorter. I dont like all of the air holes, it looks really ricey. If he put some mesh in the vent it would look better yet!
I'm gonna screw around with a nose one of these days and dont be suprised if it ends up looking alot like that! It will have GT ground effects though!
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
I can think of a couple of things off the top of my head. Although I love the front with the 300ZX lights and all, you're pretty much forced into a conversion. And unless you can take those wheel flares off you're going to have a very odd looking vehicle with just the front end.
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
Heres the deal, this weekend I am gonna go down there again and see if that Fiero is parked somewhere around there again. The Fiero was right near a residential building, therefore the owner could be someone that lives there...so I will try to see if its somewhere around there again.
I wish I had a pen and paper to leave him a note about fiero.nl ...but all I had was my digital camera which I think was well worth it.
I will do my best to find that Fiero again...can anyone see from the pics what his license plate is? I might be able to find out where he lives with his license plate.
------------------ FURIOUS FIERO '86 2M4-Sold :( ...Looking for V6 Manual
I was out rollerblading with my girlfriend and saw this parked near a park on the side of a road in Vancouver.
... something I haven't done in such a long, long time... No one here does that anymore!!
I really like that front end. The only things I would have done differently would be that little curve that 'connects' the side trim with the front, that little part near the bottom of the piece, closest to the tire. I would have done a straight line to the underside of the top of the lower scoop instead of a curve like that. I agree with Monza76 as well, on the large air dam (correct term?) I would close it up so you can't see pavement. Lastly, I was never a fan of that black trim going all the way around the front like that. I woulda either kept it closer to stock, or would have removed it all the way around the car. Other than those things, I really like that front end.
Songman, I like the front on the one you're showing (along with the other parts), but the main things I have against it are the way it curves inward along the bottom, then flares out, and the excessive detail by the blinkers. I like the straight-down sides like the one posted above has, and the extra inset detailing by the blinkers kinda destroys the lines between the 'pillars' and the inner sides of the headlights. I didn't say anything about the headlight covers since I figured they're optional, but I don't really like them. I prefer my headlights to be all molded into the plastic. I've always thought the covers people add to their headlights or taillights looked cheap.
------------------ Red '88 Fiero GT -- 2.8V6, 5Speed
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
Songman, I like the front on the one you're showing (along with the other parts), but the main things I have against it are the way it curves inward along the bottom, then flares out, and the excessive detail by the blinkers. I like the straight-down sides like the one posted above has, and the extra inset detailing by the blinkers kinda destroys the lines between the 'pillars' and the inner sides of the headlights. I didn't say anything about the headlight covers since I figured they're optional, but I don't really like them. I prefer my headlights to be all molded into the plastic. I've always thought the covers people add to their headlights or taillights looked cheap.
Thanks, tj... that is what I was looking for. Everything can be changed if we know what people want. Not sure what you mean about the blinkers though... In this example the holes have been opened up for larger European lights with fog lamps built in.
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2M4 Dale Member
Posts: 3461 From: Mansfield,Oh,U.S. Registered: Oct 1999
The entire conversion is not necessary. You can have just the front end with stock Fiero lights... And you can have it without flared fenders too...
OK Dale ... I'll bite ! If the front end your showing did not include any mods to the headlights and did not include any wheel-flair I would be very interested in it ! What I'm trying to get away with is a simple bolt on mod .... not a full on conversion. I even like the blinkers OK !!!
What kind of dough will we be talking for this front end ??? You can email me with ballpark figures if your not ready to disclose exact pricing !!!
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Thanks guys... I'm just looking for any input so that Stefan can modify and/or build things that people want. He says he is willing if I can show interest over here...
I really have no idea about pricing yet other than rough numbers on the 355 hood and the composite headlights. Those will be the first things available. I will say that the 355 nose will be slightly higher than the Pisa nose, but the increase in quality and the fact that it is bolt on and ready to go will more than make up for the price.
Two more days till Stefan is home from vacation! Damn this has been the longest two weeks I can remember! haha
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Pegasos Member
Posts: 65 From: Lake in the Hills,Ill. U.S.A. Registered: Jun 2003
Songman: I'm not too good at explaining things so I'll try again . What I meant about the extra inset detailing was about that area by the lights above the foglight holes but below the headlights. On that area, there's a bit of a channel that 'reaches' inward to the center of the car. To me, that extra 'reach' is unnecessary. Umm... I'll do some Photoshopping and I'll post what I got
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Posts: 585 From: Honolulu, HI, USA Registered: May 2003
Songman: I'm not too good at explaining things so I'll try again . What I meant about the extra inset detailing was about that area by the lights above the foglight holes but below the headlights. On that area, there's a bit of a channel that 'reaches' inward to the center of the car. To me, that extra 'reach' is unnecessary. Umm... I'll do some Photoshopping and I'll post what I got
Hey tj... If I am understanding you correctly, you mean the part that I circled in red in the picture below. If so, that is the normal coupe/Formula front end line. In this case, Stefan was trying to keep with the normal Fiero lines. I am sure that could be filled in if you wanted a solid front look.
Thanks Amir for the use of your front end.
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
OK>. just looked at the pics in the other thread... You have some good ideas. I never liked the painted line on the headlights either. Of course that is just paint and would be the builders choice.
As I said above, I think the coves on the front could be filled easily enough if you wanted a smooth front end. I'll talk to Stefan.
The part that bothers me the most about the entire conversion is that the molding band is still on the front end and there is no molding on the rest of the car. I was going to ask Stefan about that too. Thanks to you, now I have a picture to show him! haha
Thanks for your input!
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2M4 Dale Member
Posts: 3461 From: Mansfield,Oh,U.S. Registered: Oct 1999
Hey tj... If I am understanding you correctly, you mean the part that I circled in red in the picture below. If so, that is the normal coupe/Formula front end line. In this case, Stefan was trying to keep with the normal Fiero lines. I am sure that could be filled in if you wanted a solid front look.
Ah! Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. I didn't know it was also on the original body lines, though. For me, with the new lights, those lines there kinda messes with the tidiness of the rest of it... kinda interrupts the lines, if you know what I mean.
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2M4 Dale Member
Posts: 3461 From: Mansfield,Oh,U.S. Registered: Oct 1999
A bonded on lower would be nice !!! I however will probrably want an entire nose due to the fact that mine was already sagging before my wife ran over it ... it's worse now ! Of coarse money will always be a factor ....
Your photoshop rendering is about exactly what I was looking for ... question ??? could this be made so that no modification would be nessasary to the inner liners on the wheelwells ?
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
From what I hear of Stefan's products, they are ready to bolt on. The only difference you would find would be minor differences in the stock Fiero hood, fenders, etc...
I'm going to send this info to Stefan (who should be returning tomorrow). Part of our agreement is that I help fine tune the products to meet what customers want.
I think this could be made to match up with the stock inner fenderwells. The front fascia is lower to the ground but I think the new front would just have to be made to wrap partially up into the fenderwell to fill the added space.
One question that occurs to me... If you just want a new bottom section on a stock Formula style fascia, wouldn't it probably be cheaper to find a new fascia over here to bond the bottom section to instead of buying the whole piece and having it delivered from Germany? Not that I wouldn't love to sell you the whole piece! I guess it sorta depends on your body working abilities too...
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2M4 Dale Member
Posts: 3461 From: Mansfield,Oh,U.S. Registered: Oct 1999
Just for fun, here's a PS'd version. I'm not as good as some people here, but I was bored.
My only concern with a kit for the 87-88 coupe nose is that there aren't that many of them around any more. The 84-86 coupe is much more readily available, but would need a mask that covered the black pads, in order to look more modern. New idea maybe?
Cheers,
Kris
PS. Sorry for butchering your car, Amir
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Mattyman Member
Posts: 584 From: Jeannette, Pa Registered: Sep 2001
That 87-88 coupe fascia with the lower piece looks amazing. I love that look. There is just something about it that makes it look real nice. Probably the fact that the picture is of one very nice Fiero.
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Songman Member
Posts: 12496 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Aug 2000
When Stefan gets back I'll talk to him. I'm not sure how hard it would be to make it available either way... as a full nose or as just a bottom splash..
We're getting it honed down to something nice now though!
It's not finished yet, even though it's primered. I'm still considering making some pockets in the fascia for the fog lights, and maybe something else. Also needs a grill. I hate looking through it and seeing the ground. Plus it'll just give it a more finished look.
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2Fast_Fiero Member
Posts: 1106 From: Tijeras, NM USA Registered: Jul 2003
Seems like the fastback coupes are multiplying like rabbits. I can't wait to get mine converted.
Anyway I would like a straight bolt-on version of your coupe nose, or just the chin spoiler. I really don't want to replace all the body panels on my car just to get a cool nose.
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Aug 21st, 2003
furious_fiero Member
Posts: 3028 From: Surrey,BC,CANADA Registered: Mar 2002
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I like it... the only thing is, that aside from the hood vents (which appear to be just screen-covered holes) and wheels - the car is still essentially stock in appearance. It need a little more "flare" yet. Still, very nice!
