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New PB 12.055 @ 113.19 MPH by MNFiero3800
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Report this Post09-28-2003 09:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MNFiero3800Send a Private Message to MNFiero3800Direct Link to This Post
I had a good day at the track today:
R/T .111
60' 1.819
330 5.041
1/8 7.735
MPH 91.17
1000 10.068
1/4 12.055
MPH 113.19

I got my IC working again and headed to the track today. I'm happy with my latest runs, the car needs new tires, 10% tread P6000's just doesn't cut it. My first run some guy came up and told me I must have been spinning half way down the track. I think it was more like a quarter of the track, but it was way too far. I can only launch it from an idle and I still have to roll the throttle. I know with some decent tires I could get at least 2-3 more tenths out of it. When I was able to get it to grab, I felt all the blood leave my face, what a rush!


Here a link to the thread of my last run and mod list. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/034083.html

I still have yet to get and install my ZZP Throttle body, it's still "in the mail."

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Good job! I knew there was alot of room for improvement! And yet you have farther to go! 60 foot can be better, and with that mph you should have an easy 11 sec car!!
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That is fast. I wish mine could do that... someday.
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Way to go

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BTW Which track did you go to?

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Originally posted by Tina:

Way to go

Tina

BTW Which track did you go to?

Rockfalls Raceway

And thanks for the "thumbs up" everyone!

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Sweet! Keep up the good work, and of course updates are always appreciated. With that kind of motor, you should just get a dedicated set of wheels and drag tires for the track!

I was thinking once you're in the 11s you have to have a roll cage...is that true, or is it 10s? I know it's somewhere in there.

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Originally posted by Nashco:

Sweet! Keep up the good work, and of course updates are always appreciated. With that kind of motor, you should just get a dedicated set of wheels and drag tires for the track!

I was thinking once you're in the 11s you have to have a roll cage...is that true, or is it 10s? I know it's somewhere in there.

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Drag slicks would be nice, but I'd like to run the car in street trim. I would like to give slicks a try sometime.

You need a roll bar at 11.99 and faster and a roll cage a 10.99 and faster. You bring up a good point though, I really don't feel like putting in a roll bar right now, maybe next season.


 
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Good job! I knew there was alot of room for improvement! And yet you have farther to go! 60 foot can be better, and with that mph you should have an easy 11 sec car!!

I agree, with some decent set of tires, 11's would have happened today (Then I would have gotten kicked out ). I did have one 1.77 60' not much better, but a little. I would like to launch the car around 1800 RPM or so, but not going to happen without tires. New tires more than likely will not happen this season.... no $$$.

Oh well 12.055 is good enough for now...

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I was at Rock Falls today, saw his (MNFiero3800's) timeslip, and a HUGE smile on his face. Yep, 12.055. Grippy tires next, then comes the rollbar.

My stock 3800sc ran 13.033. Must be that cool crisp Wisconsin air...

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You need a roll bar at 11.99 and faster and a roll cage a 10.99 and faster. You bring up a good point though, I really don't feel like putting in a roll bar right now, maybe next season.

LMK if you decide you need a rollbar.
Got a place here locally here.
(They do pretty much anything ...
From an 11.99 legal bar up to the brand new NHRA/SFI 25.5 spec)
And they actually like Fieros.

Tina

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Originally posted by TimGully:

I was at Rock Falls today, saw his (MNFiero3800's) timeslip, and a HUGE smile on his face. Yep, 12.055. Grippy tires next, then comes the rollbar.

My stock 3800sc ran 13.033. Must be that cool crisp Wisconsin air...

What tranny? 4t60e auto or 5spd Getrag?

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Originally posted by Rare87GT:

What tranny? 4t60e auto or 5spd Getrag?



4T65E-HD It's holding very well, but I would love an LSD.

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Originally posted by TimGully:

I was at Rock Falls today, saw his (MNFiero3800's) timeslip, and a HUGE smile on his face. Yep, 12.055. Grippy tires next, then comes the rollbar.

My stock 3800sc ran 13.033. Must be that cool crisp Wisconsin air...


Tim it was nice meeting you and congrats on your runs! Sorry I didn't have more time to BS.

I say his run and it was all of 13.033, I was happy to see it.

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Originally posted by Tina:

LMK if you decide you need a rollbar.
Got a place here locally here.
(They do pretty much anything ...
From an 11.99 legal bar up to the brand new NHRA/SFI 25.5 spec)
And they actually like Fieros.

Tina

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Can you please post the info, I sure I'll need it sooner than later. I'm interested in how much it would cost. I think my car just decided it needs one.

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Originally posted by Rare87GT:

What tranny? 4t60e auto or 5spd Getrag?



I also want to know what tranny Tim Gully is using..

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Originally posted by MNFiero3800:

Can you please post the info, I sure I'll need it sooner than later. I'm interested in how much it would cost. I think my car just decided it needs one.

Nice going !!! I'm having a lot of problems with my PCM or I would have been there... I should be there OCT 10th for the last sport compact day. Did you smoke some rice burners???

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Originally posted by MNFiero3800:


4T65E-HD It's holding very well, but I would love an LSD.

He HE He ..........I have what your looking for Quaife Torque Biasing Diff

UUGGGHHH IT'S THIS KIND OF STUFF THAT DRIVES ME UP A TREE MITH MY BLOWN ENGINE THAT I KNOW HAS THE POTENTIAL

Congarts Lyle..........sure wish I would have gotten a time slip before everything went to hell.........

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Originally posted by Rare87GT:


I also want to know what tranny Tim Gully is using..

I think he is using a 5 speed and stock everything else. I think he had a damn nice time for a stock 3800!

 
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Nice going !!! I'm having a lot of problems with my PCM or I would have been there... I should be there OCT 10th for the last sport compact day. Did you smoke some rice burners???

Thanks! There was no "rice burners" in the King of the Hill Class (12.999 and faster), so I guess I "smoked" all of them.

Sorry to hear about you PCM problems, I have one word (acronym) for you... "ODBII"!

 
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He HE He ..........I have what your looking for Quaife Torque Biasing Diff

UUGGGHHH IT'S THIS KIND OF STUFF THAT DRIVES ME UP A TREE MITH MY BLOWN ENGINE THAT I KNOW HAS THE POTENTIAL

Congarts Lyle..........sure wish I would have gotten a time slip before everything went to hell.........


You have a lot of crap I need:
LSD
Fuel Rail
Injectors
Heads
Direct port Nitrous
Tubular suspension
Coilovers
and oh ya A LIFT!

But hey you'll get your car running and life will be good.

You have any wheels and tires sitting around that I could borrow/rent for my next track day?

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You have a PM about the slicks...
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OBDII never. Darth will fix me up and it will be off to the races. I heard from a friend at work it was a really dead day there at the track.

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Originally posted by lowfierogt:

OBDII never. Darth will fix me up and it will be off to the races. I heard from a friend at work it was a really dead day there at the track.

When I get an ICCU you going to wish you were using OBDII. But seriously I hope you get your car running. Give me a call if you are going to the track and I'll try to make it.

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Originally posted by Voided:

You have a PM about the slicks...


You have been PM'ed back
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Originally posted by MNFiero3800:


4T65E-HD It's holding very well, but I would love an LSD.

Are you having trouble with only spinning 1 tire on your launch? I am running a 4T60-E and IF I spin, it has always been BOTH tires.

BTW, impressive 1/4 mile time there.

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Originally posted by Darth Fiero:

Are you having trouble with only spinning 1 tire on your launch? I am running a 4T60-E and IF I spin, it has always been BOTH tires.

BTW, impressive 1/4 mile time there.


I'm spinning both I believe. Although If I get better tires that will not always be the case, so better tires and an LSD is a good combo.


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FANTASTIC times there MN3800!!! I knew if you got some better 60 foots you'd see definite improvements. Try this the next time you go.

When you stage...hold the brake as hard as you can. Rev the motor to 2000 RPM. Hopefullly the brakes hold. You can test how high of a RPM the brakes can take. I can hold mine at 1800-2000 when the brakes are cool. On the last yellow let go of the brake and let the car roll for a "one" count. Then punch it. This is how i usually get my best 60 foots without spinning too too bad. May chug the tires a lil but not a whole lot of spinning.

By the way what pulley were you using and how much boost were you seeing?

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13.033 in a STOCK SC3800?? That has to be the FASTEST stock 3800 out there. I ran 13.4 when stock and I think Hugh ran 13.14. Thats cool! You need to make a seperate thread on that one!

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Very impressive Lyle. Id love to compare mods with you and see how that intercooler compares to the supercooler. You should definately see 11's soon, and Im happy to see someone on my heels, that is interested in continuing modding and making it fast. Im shooting for 10s soon, but who knows.
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Originally posted by lildevil:

FANTASTIC times there MN3800!!! I knew if you got some better 60 foots you'd see definite improvements. Try this the next time you go.

When you stage...hold the brake as hard as you can. Rev the motor to 2000 RPM. Hopefullly the brakes hold. You can test how high of a RPM the brakes can take. I can hold mine at 1800-2000 when the brakes are cool. On the last yellow let go of the brake and let the car roll for a "one" count. Then punch it. This is how i usually get my best 60 foots without spinning too too bad. May chug the tires a lil but not a whole lot of spinning.

By the way what pulley were you using and how much boost were you seeing?

Next time I'm at the track with better tires I'll try it. I've never tried that method with the one count in there, but otherwise I do the same. That is before my cam, intercooler, 2.8 pulley round of mods anyway. Thanks for the tip! I think it would spin even with that method and these tires.


I'm using a 2.8" Tri collet pulley and I'm seeing about 9-10 lbs of boost.

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Originally posted by fieroX:

Very impressive Lyle. Id love to compare mods with you and see how that intercooler compares to the supercooler. You should definately see 11's soon, and Im happy to see someone on my heels, that is interested in continuing modding and making it fast. Im shooting for 10s soon, but who knows.


Hey thanks man! I think all I need is tires to see the 11's, but as you said we will see. Good luck on hitting the 10's, I'm sure it's just around the corner. I don't know if I'd say I'm on your heels, but I'm getting closer.

Here is my email if you want to ask me anything about my mods: lsvendsen2002@yahoo.com

Thanks and good luck!

Here is most of my mods (copy/paste):
1986 Fiero GT
Performance Modifications
• 3800 Series II Supercharged Engine/Tranny 4T65E-HD Swap (1998 Grand Prix GTP)
• ZZP Stage Two Intercooler
• ZZP Machine Intake Manifold
• ZZP Throttle Body Spacer
• ZZP Stage 1 High Velocity ‘99 Throttle Body (Soon to be installed)
• Comp Cams VS Cam (ZZP)
• The Other Guys Exhaust Headers
• Digital Horse Power (DHP) Reprogrammed PCM
• ‘92-’95 Pontiac Bonneville Fuel Pump
• Drilled 180* Thermostat
• Taylor Custom Spark Plug Wires
• Jacob Electronics Coils Packs
• Thermo Tec Thermo Wrapped Crossover
• Tri-Power Tri-Collet 2.8” Supercharger Pulley
• K&N 7” Cone Filter
• Goodyear Gatorback Supercharger Belt
• Autolite 103's Colder Spark Plugs
• Fram Larger Oil Filter
• Tranny Cooler
• Drive Shaft Shop Custom Axle Shaft
• Custom Exhaust
• EGR Deleted w/ ZZP Block Off Plates
• Caspers Electronics O2 Simulator

Suspension Modifications
• Rear Sway Bar W/ Prothane Poly Bushings
• KYB Shocks and Struts

Gauges and Monitoring
• Autometer Gauges (Boost, Oil Pressure, Transmission Temp.)
• “Back in Black” Gear and Torque Converter Lock-up Indicator
• Summit Racing Air Fuel Gauge (Modified, custom in gauge cluster mount)

Appearance
• Custom Flamed Paint Job
• Fiero Shop International Stage 2 Side Scoops with molded in door trim
• Custom Laser Engraved Drivers Side Mirror (“Objects in mirror are losers”)
• Seat Belt Pads Embroidered Fiero Logo
• Textured Painted Dash Trim

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Originally posted by MNFiero3800:

Can you please post the info, I sure I'll need it sooner than later. I'm interested in how much it would cost. I think my car just decided it needs one.


http://www.tntraceshop.com

Ask to talk to T. J.,
or if you like, we can plan a Fiero Invasion.
Just LMK when you are planning on going there.

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Not to steal the thread, MN3800, but too lazy to start my own. also, I smelled a little antifreeze when you left. You may want to check for leaks.

Rare87, I run my stock my8 muncie 4 spd.


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sounds like Tim's got a factory freak motor.. I know over on the GP forum there are quite a few cars that were running low to mid 14's stock.

awesome run, I smell 11's or that's burnt rubber

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Originally posted by TimGully:

Not to steal the thread, MN3800, but too lazy to start my own. also, I smelled a little antifreeze when you left. You may want to check for leaks.

Rare87, I run my stock my8 muncie 4 spd.

I'll keep an eye on it, but I'm sure it's just spilled coolant. I spilled quite a bit of coolant down the side and back of the motor when I was filling the intercooler.

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Report this Post09-30-2003 09:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Don KrausSend a Private Message to Don KrausDirect Link to This Post
Great Job,isn't it fun running those 3800's?You should get in the 11's with your set up with a little traction .I'm going to Byron Dragway this Sunday,the Illonios Grand Prix Club is going to be there and it's always fun running with all those 3800's.If you can, come on over and have a good time.I'm hoping to run the mid 11's with mine???.

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Report this Post09-30-2003 10:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MNFiero3800Send a Private Message to MNFiero3800Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Don Kraus:

Great Job,isn't it fun running those 3800's?You should get in the 11's with your set up with a little traction .I'm going to Byron Dragway this Sunday,the Illonios Grand Prix Club is going to be there and it's always fun running with all those 3800's.If you can, come on over and have a good time.I'm hoping to run the mid 11's with mine???.


I'd love to come over, but it just can't happen right now, but good luck!

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