I've been reading various threads and every once in a while somebody says "I got xx.yyy ET" 0-60 or 1/4 mile.

Then somebody comes on the thread says flat out that they don't believe (in other words calling a guy a liar) the stated time.

Now why don't we talk about this behaviour?

When we go to the track with friends, there is normally somebody around, and most of us go with other Forum members. If we say "my car does xx.yyy" and we go to an event, we know we had better be able to back up our claims or lose major face.

I too was so much as being called a liar about my times, until I posted my time slip, but why do this in the first place? How many guys have posted fraudulent times on the Forum? I'll bet not many if any.

Moreover, I respect the work guys do on their rides. I read with great interest when somebody is willing to say "I did this to my engine and look what I got out of it". I don't have the time of day to go casting dispersions when I know that if I meet the contributor he'll have to show up or shut up anyway.

Just my opinion here, and no offense intended, but I am kind if tired of people taking shots at folks who post results for discussion and education purposes. I realize this is a 'pubic' forum and taking a fair shot at somebody over a different point of view is fair ball, but saying "I don't believe you" is just too far for me.

Now I'll get off my soap box.

Arn

here, here! (to quote the british members of parliment) there is far too much bravado and ego (testosterone) exhibited by some members of this forum. cmon guys lighten up - arent we on the same team? us fiero guys dont get a lot of respect by most of the rest of society - why should we put each other down here on the forum? helping each other out, isnt that what we all want?

jon

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Im the original owner of a white 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983. "It is better to remain quiet and have people think you are a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt" - Abe Lincoln

well, most of us know what to expect from most engine & mod combo's. when someone cuts a second of what is expected, theres gonna be some question on how that happened. and there have even been photoshopped timeslips. theres a pretty well kept 1/4 mile list thread, and you can find on there basicly every combo put together, and a reliable 1/4 mile time for that combo. yes, there are other variables to a 1/4 mile run, but anything over 1/2 a second faster than whats expected will start people yelling BS.

My point is that you don't call a guy a liar out of the shute.

If you think his stated performance is bs you invite him to the track

Arn

Actually, we have a bunch of bs'ers and wannabees on here, so it is hard to know when someone is telling the truth. That is why a copy of a time slip or dyno sheet comes in handy. It helps separate the bs'ers from the real numbers.