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Official Announcment - 4.9 V8 swap thread. by Black-Azz-GT
Started on: 06-24-2004 11:13 AM
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Report this Post06-24-2004 11:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Black-Azz-GTSend a Private Message to Black-Azz-GTDirect Link to This Post
Thats right! The gunmetal GT is getting an attitude adjustment. Cash has been sent for the engine, ecm, and harness.
It will be bolted to my 5spd for rediculas torgue. As of now, the car should be dropped off next weekend for the transplant and I should have it back in a month or so. All I have to do now is try not to watch the clock. This will be a LONG month.

I will be providing pics for this build up so, keep an eye out for this one.

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Report this Post06-24-2004 11:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 87GTSleeperSend a Private Message to 87GTSleeperDirect Link to This Post
Congrats, man. You have a fine looking Fiero and it deserves a killer engine. Looking forward to updates.
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Hi all,

Congrats man...What made ya decide to go v8 an not mod the 6????

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Report this Post06-24-2004 11:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Black-Azz-GTSend a Private Message to Black-Azz-GTDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by pavo_roddy:

Hi all,

Congrats man...What made ya decide to go v8 an not mod the 6????

Check the "Mods" link in the sig. The 3.4 is modded out to just about the max you can get out of Fuel injected V6.

No matter what you do you always want more. Plus a V8 screamin from a fiero is just the sh*t. Plain and simple.

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Good Luck man!

Hope you have fun with it!!!!!!!!!1

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Will the 4.9 be "modded out"? i feel some roller rockers, roller lifters,roller cam bearings!!!! comming along? maybe forged pistons, ARP bolts n studs? ported heads and manifolds?........... hehe sorry, i get crazy about eng swaps!!

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Report this Post06-24-2004 03:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LT188GTSend a Private Message to LT188GTDirect Link to This Post
Hey Chris------Make sure MTA takes a bunch of pics like I had Archie do on the LT1 build. He put them on a photo C/D for me.
The more the better, you can always delete what you do not want. Seeing that MTA is closer to me than you, I guess I can shoot some pics also and keep up somewhat on your install.
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Hey Chris------Make sure MTA takes a bunch of pics like I had Archie do on the LT1 build. He put them on a photo C/D for me.
The more the better, you can always delete what you do not want. Seeing that MTA is closer to me than you, I guess I can shoot some pics also and keep up somewhat on your install.

Thanks clem. See what you did buy letting me drive your V8! Are you happy now?

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Report this Post06-24-2004 04:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LT188GTSend a Private Message to LT188GTDirect Link to This Post
Welcome to the-----about to be V8------club.
I guess I will see it at the Run To The Keys this year. Looking foward to it and I expect a neck snapping ride.
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Welcome to the-----about to be V8------club.
I guess I will see it at the Run To The Keys this year. Looking foward to it and I expect a neck snapping ride.

I think I owe you a drive.

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Report this Post06-26-2004 07:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Black-Azz-GTSend a Private Message to Black-Azz-GTDirect Link to This Post
Here are the first round of pics!

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Sorry had to switch to the DSL connection. Here they are fresh out of a T-boned Caddi. Enjoy




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How much did it cost you? How many miles? Cheapest 4.9s around here are about $1500
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crzyone $1500 they must be nuts up there I just saw one at a yard today for $150....... I wonder how much MTA charges to do the swap? I'm on my way tomorrow to pick up another GT for the same purrpose. Doing it myself though. Congrats to you Black-AZZ-GT it should be a blast to drive and your car looks amazing now it might actually be fast enough to keep up with it's own reputation :-) way to go!
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There arn't many early 90s caddys running around here, let alone low mileage written off ones. I bought my 4.9 after searching all of Alberta, cheapest I found was $1000 without ecm or wiring harness ($100 extra)

I got my LT1 for a real steal, but to try and find one under $4500 is tough also.

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How much did it cost you? How many miles? Cheapest 4.9s around here are about $1500

the engine was 650 with everything. It was in a running car that was T-boned 70k.

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Enough with the announcements, lets see some of these 4.9s on the road.
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Report this Post07-03-2004 04:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Black-Azz-GTSend a Private Message to Black-Azz-GTDirect Link to This Post
Well, I droped her off for the swap. Now for the wait. Pictures will come...........................

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Can't wait till you and Kento feel the power of the 4.9
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You mean like these?



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Enough with the announcements, lets see some of these 4.9s on the road.

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Yep, that's exactly what I mean. Nice pictures btw. Do you have any showing the entire car?

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Originally posted by Black-Azz-GT:

Well, I droped her off for the swap. Now for the wait. Pictures will come...........................

Jeff got his Car and 4.9 here today and we start tomorrow.!!! once we get it finished I get mine started!

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You mean like these?

John Stricker

When did your car pick up the 4.9?

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About a week ago. Not in yet, but will be soon.
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Memorial Day weekend. We started that Friday night and had it in and running by Monday night.


We did have a lot done before we dropped the cradle. We had all the brackets done, the trim work finished, the other engine prepped and ready to go, Rockrawl had done the chip a few weeks before, we had all the parts from Ed Parks, so we were ready to do a "quick change", but we did have remarkably few problems with the swap.

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When did your car pick up the 4.9?

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Memorial Day weekend. We started that Friday night and had it in and running by Monday night.

We did have a lot done before we dropped the cradle. We had all the brackets done, the trim work finished, the other engine prepped and ready to go, Rockrawl had done the chip a few weeks before, we had all the parts from Ed Parks, so we were ready to do a "quick change", but we did have remarkably few problems with the swap.

John Stricker

I have to say.. its looks awesome .. I love the car and the engine.

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So, what did it run at the track?
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It won that race, look at the red light in the other lane! Does anything else matter?

It was slower than we expected with a best time of 14.81. It has something miscalculated in the chip, though. Either the transmission doesn't have the final drive we think it does (the code on the tag is not readable) or we've misfigured something else because the car would run up against the rev limiter and wouldn't shift without backing off of the throttle.

It certainly feels and acts like a low 14 second car. You can see the hard launch by the front end lift, but when you have to get out of it to make it shift it's just not going to show it's true colors. Rockrawl and I are discussing the problem now and we'll get it worked out. I have to say that other than that, his chip is a dream. The car idles beautifully, sounds great, and pulls hard with tons of torque. I was a little leary of the 4.9L and almost went with a SBC, but I'm glad we went this way and this is just a minor hiccup.

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So, what did it run at the track?

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Memorial Day weekend. We started that Friday night and had it in and running by Monday night.


We did have a lot done before we dropped the cradle. We had all the brackets done, the trim work finished, the other engine prepped and ready to go, Rockrawl had done the chip a few weeks before, we had all the parts from Ed Parks, so we were ready to do a "quick change", but we did have remarkably few problems with the swap.

John Stricker



That car looks intimidating, so much so they had put up a rail dragster to race you.

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That was a funny race. The only time you could get both in the same pic was at the starting line. The rail did 140-something in the quarter, too bad he redlighted.

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Back on to the topic now. How bout some updated pics.

After a nice power cleaning. Removed things I dont want, like, cruise & PS and other useless junk. Added some new gaskets and a new water pump and custom fabricating.



And this will dress up the top of the engine. (Just one of my secrets going into this swap.)

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"It's too low, too rough, too loud, drinks gas, it's totally impractical, but damn good lookin. In other words, It's almost perfect!"
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Can't wait till you and Kento feel the power of the 4.9

Mine has to wait till I get Jeff's done

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That intake system looks great, may I ask where you found it or did you make it your self?

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That intake system looks great, may I ask where you found it or did you make it your self?

Yeah all of us 4.9'ers wanna know.

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That is an Akimoto special no comment
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That is an Akimoto special no comment


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That intake system looks great, may I ask where you found it or did you make it your self?


Ebay has all kinds. Look for full size trunks, Tahoe, blazer, here is one for example http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38634&item=7908781480&rd=1

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Ready to go on the cradle and in to the car.




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Looks like it's coming along nicely! You might even beat me to a running car.
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