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More teaser pics of my 12" Corvette brake swap by Dragon1
Started on: 01-29-2005 10:33 PM
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Report this Post01-29-2005 10:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dragon1Send a Private Message to Dragon1Direct Link to This Post
Today I worked on the fronts, they are definatly harder (more work involved) to do than the rears.....

2001 16" Toyota Celica rims and tires
Front rim....wow that's a lot of rotor....

Caliper clearance...about 1/4" to 3/8", even clears the factory wheel weigths

Rear rim...

Caliper clearance...easy 3/8"

Misc. pics...
Front

Rear

I still need to do the stainless brake lines, I bougth the Russel ones, DOT approved
and I still need to figure out the e-brake setup. I bought the rear cables for a '96 Corvette and am going to try to hook everything together this way...any tips or hints from anybody???

There were a couple of things I would change or do differently if I did this swap again.
This is the swap with Bubbajoes brackets and using his instructions for his web site and/or his post on the monster Fiero he is currently building.
1). when you mount the front adaptor to the spindle you have to grind a portion of the spindle flat so the adaptor sits flat, instead I wound design a radius in the adaptor to clear this area.
2). I choose to trim the front dust shield rather than discard it because it has a shield that goes over the inner portion of the hub to keep the dust out.
3). the holes on the rear adaptor where it bolts to the rear spindle need to be about .050 farther apart. I had to grind the holes oblong to get the bolts thru to the spindle holes.

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Report this Post01-29-2005 10:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for The FunkmasterSend a Private Message to The FunkmasterDirect Link to This Post
very pretty! Should hold you down real good too!
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Report this Post01-29-2005 11:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MiZerSend a Private Message to MiZerDirect Link to This Post
wow, very nice. very nice indeed.

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Report this Post01-29-2005 11:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SkratchClick Here to visit Skratch's HomePageSend a Private Message to SkratchDirect Link to This Post
Looks great.

Question, on the WCF kit you need to move the front shock to keep the caliper from hittting it, do you need to do that with this setup?

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Report this Post01-29-2005 11:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dragon1Send a Private Message to Dragon1Direct Link to This Post
I don't know yet, as it is sitting now with the wheels hanging the brake line bolt does hit the lower mounting tube on the shock but at ride ride it "may" clear as the angles will be different.

Dragon1/Brian

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Report this Post01-29-2005 11:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SkratchClick Here to visit Skratch's HomePageSend a Private Message to SkratchDirect Link to This Post
Cool, keep us informed.
If I can find the caliper mounts and calipers I want to go this route rather than buy a kit
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Report this Post01-30-2005 12:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Looks good. Big brakes are the only way to go.

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Report this Post01-30-2005 01:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for zMacKSend a Private Message to zMacKDirect Link to This Post
Sweet!
Now you need bigger rims, to match them jumbo rotors!
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Report this Post01-30-2005 11:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dragon1Send a Private Message to Dragon1Direct Link to This Post
I found the calipers on car-parts.com, $260 for four calipers with mounts, two front 1984 and two rear 1996.They were at a junk yard in my area too so I just went and picked them up. The rotors I got off ebay from a place in California. Auction was a pair buy it now for $33.95. They look to be very good quality. The adaptors I made myself at work, I've been a machinist for 30 years. Stainless brake lines came from Russel /Summit, mater cylinder was from Advanced Auto Parts, $20.00. Corvette e-brake cables from Art's Corvette parts in Florida.

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Report this Post02-02-2005 04:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mickey_MooseClick Here to visit Mickey_Moose's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mickey_MooseDirect Link to This Post
your friendly neighbourhood bump for more info/pics

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Report this Post02-02-2005 04:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Ferrari_cdnSend a Private Message to Ferrari_cdnDirect Link to This Post
I hope thats not the stock suspension height
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Report this Post02-02-2005 09:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dragon1Send a Private Message to Dragon1Direct Link to This Post
Car is on four jackstands and wheels are hangin'. In real life it sits much lower than that....

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Report this Post02-03-2005 12:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for $Rich$Send a Private Message to $Rich$Direct Link to This Post
what MC are you gonna run?

what are the rear brakes?

where did you buy everything, and what was the cost?

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Report this Post02-03-2005 12:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dragon1Send a Private Message to Dragon1Direct Link to This Post
Basically followed bubbajoes instructions and parts list in the thread about his new project(page 8 thru 10 or 12). Front calipers are '84 vette, rear calipers are '96 vette with the ebrake lever, mater cylinder I think is a '80 vette, adaptors are bubba's design, braided stainless is Russel from Summit, e-brake cables might be '96 vette, I have to work on that yet.

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Report this Post02-05-2005 09:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dragon1Send a Private Message to Dragon1Direct Link to This Post
Put my Russel braided stainless brake lines on today....no pics sorry
Here's a tip/hint for those who think the rear lines might be a little short or tight.
Take off the mounting bracket where the hardline meets the flexable line and swap it for the bracket on the other side of the car. For example, drivers side bracket is "L" shaped, it goes up and bends out, so does the passenger side bracket. If you swap sides with the brackets they now go down and out. This gets you two inches closer to the caliper....not so tight anymore.

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Report this Post02-14-2005 10:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dragon1Send a Private Message to Dragon1Direct Link to This Post
Almost had it done last weekend but I broke one of the front hardlines while moving the proportioning valve to meet the lines to the new master cylinder, we were trying to bleed the brakes and it was sucking air. I will buy a new set of lines from "The Fiero Store". They have a whole set of CNC mandrel bent hard lines for $159.00....

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Report this Post06-06-2005 04:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
What the heck did you use for bolts to mount the adapter bracket to the spindle?? I LOOKS like a 12M1.50 thread, but in actuality it SEEMS to be an 11mm bolt. I can't find 11mm anywhere to even check. Everything else is all set, these 4 damn bolts are holding me up.

EDIT, I FINALLY found that someone drilled and tapped them to 12x1.75 to match the fronts, looks like thats what I'll have to do...

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Report this Post07-31-2005 11:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cheetahClick Here to visit cheetah's HomePageSend a Private Message to cheetahDirect Link to This Post

FINALLY, finished the brake upgrade!

I still need to set-up an e-brake, and get an alignment, as I did everything else suspensionwise also. These are 17", and have plenty of clearance.

I did have a little problem with the fronts at first. The o.d. of the rotors was rubbing the caliper bracket. I took care of this by milling a slight chamfer on the brackets. That part has plenty of material, so strength is not a problem. I blue locktighted the adapter brackets to both the spindles and the caliper bracket. I recommend everyone do the same. I also used 6061 Aluminum instead of steel. Plenty of rigidity and strength.

As already answered, drill those holes to the M-12 x 1.5mm. That keeps everything the same, and one can then use the tap to clean out all the threads for the brake system.

I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but the stock brake lines will reach and bolt on to the corvette calipers, but the corvette bolt it needed. It is the same diameter bolt, but the corvette one is a finer pitch.

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Report this Post07-31-2005 02:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
^^^^ Nice.
Did you powder coat the hats?
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Report this Post07-31-2005 04:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cheetahClick Here to visit cheetah's HomePageSend a Private Message to cheetahDirect Link to This Post
I bought them that way. They are silver zinc plated. Painted the calipers with the VHT 900 degree temp paint.

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Report this Post07-31-2005 04:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for yellowstoneSend a Private Message to yellowstoneDirect Link to This Post
Uuuuuuh, beautiful!!!!!

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Report this Post08-28-2005 02:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 1986GTV8Send a Private Message to 1986GTV8Direct Link to This Post
GREAT info!!!

A + for all.

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Report this Post08-28-2005 07:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fiero go fastSend a Private Message to fiero go fastDirect Link to This Post
They all look absolutely great. I might need some help in the future from all of you guys doing this break swap . My corvette brakes and rotors are on their way in the mail as we speak.

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