noooooooooooooooooo.. SOmeone take lots of pictures for me, and preferably video if available!! Well, actually, prefereably all video and no picture if doable.. Is it doable? I'd owe ya!
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texasfiero Member
Posts: 4674 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: Jun 2003
Video would be stupendous.. I can trade you for my other DeLorean footage.. And pictures of hte shrine in my room.. I'll scan a copy of the 1981 Car and drive for ya too!
Just got back from the Delorean Motor Company. That place is awesome. If you are ever in Houston you have to check it out.
Let me make this a little Fiero Related though
Almost unknown is that fact that all the assets from the original Delorean Motor Company and the plant in Northern Ireland now reside in Houston Texas.
The plant was designed to produce 20,000 to 30,000 cars per year. They actually built just over 9,000. That means there are enough parts in this Houston warehouse to build tens of thousands of cars.
The only catch is the governement won't allow them to create a Delorean from scratch, because it would have to meet all the modern 2006 crash standards, so they are committed to keeping the 9,000 or so on the road. This also means that they have enough spare parts to last into the next century.
They claim to have more spare parts for the Delorean than any car currently in production...I believe them.
- Jonathan
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
A lot of kind words for the Fiero. The VP used to own one. And a lot of similarities, in that the DeLorean also has body panels that can be unbolted. They said that John D. considered an SMC/painted version had production continued.
Most owners keep them stock, but this prototype remonded me of Curley. It's an update of the interior that DMC may offer in the future. It also has 17s and 18s.
And the purists hate the painted ones, but this red one was hot. And it's for sale, only $25K
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texasfiero Member
Posts: 4674 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: Jun 2003
The last remaining body molds. All others were crushed and buried in Ireland. All shop equipment for stamping body parts was dumped at sea! What a shame.
New (25 year old body)
I shot these photos as wide as I could and some of them have "tunnel vision". I wanted to get everything I could as closely as I could so I ignored the effect. Hope you don't mind.
More photos and video later.
Seeya
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Question(s): What type of motor does DMC use? Do they or some else ever dropped a N* in one of those puppies? It seems like a person could be injured if the car was T-boned or hit from the side?
I like this dash and sterring wheel
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09:32 PM
texasfiero Member
Posts: 4674 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: Jun 2003
Now what do you suppose jscott is looking for: a new dash, no. A new set of switches for his console...no. We had to drag him out but you'll see these next
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
Actually that was Clark that fell in love with the cupholders.
The DMC-12 is powered by an engine developed jointly by Peugeot, Renault, and Volvo. The engine is derived from the Volvo B28F which has been fitted with a Bosch K-Jetronic fuel injection system and modified to be mounted in reverse.
It was okay by 80s standards, but today it is pretty underpowered. Stock it puts out 130 hp and 153 ft-lbs of torque, (sound familiar?) They have crates and crates of new ones and they will work them over to produce about 200 hp. At 2800 lbs for the total car, I would expect it to be pretty quick with 200 hp. I don't think you could wedge in a N* because of the way the engine sits in the triangular frame.
The doors are pretty beefy, but I don't know how they would hold up to today's side impact crash standards.
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10:32 PM
madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Power steering?? There is none. DMC won't even consider adding it. I'd bet that with 19 inch wheels up front you would want it.
Doors? They have doors out the wazoo. I forget if it was 100 or a thousand doors, but at the rate they are selling them it's a 100 year supply. The company that bought all this stuff from the factory, (Big Lots actually) had more doors made because they figured that would be the hardest thing to replace. 'm sure they would sell you a pair; and wouldn't it be cool to fit them to a Fiero?
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11:34 PM
He Named Thor Member
Posts: 538 From: Wisconsin, USA Registered: Mar 2005
I would like to see them design and build a new car. Just make something John DeLorean would've built, an efficient and safe sports car (by todays standards though). I think that would be neat. Expensive though, and very risky, so I doubt it will happen.
It's fun to dream though...
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Aug 7th, 2005
texasfiero Member
Posts: 4674 From: Houston, TX USA Registered: Jun 2003
Originally posted by jscott1: The only catch is the governement won't allow them to create a Delorean from scratch, because it would have to meet all the modern 2006 crash standards, so they are committed to keeping the 9,000 or so on the road. This also means that they have enough spare parts to last into the next century.
- Jonathan
i don't understand why can't they build the cars these days. doesn't Carroll Shelby build new cobras from new old parts. i don't think these new/old cobras meet today's safety standards. just a thought.
thanks...
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
doesn't Carroll Shelby build new cobras from new old parts. i don't think these new/old cobras meet today's safety standards. just a thought.
thanks...
That should read "didn't Carrol Shelby build Cobras from new old parts?" Yes he did and it's illegal. He told us the story of Carrol Shelby and how he started building new Cobras from old Cobras. Then he started building them from NOS parts and got into a lot of trouble.
What VIN do you assign to a car built from parts? DMC will take a VIN plate and title as trade in and build a completely new car around that VIN plate. I've been suggesting to Fiero enthusiast that they can also do that if they have a totalled out car they want to rebuild. Just get a VIN plate that you have clear title to and build a new car around it. That is perfectly legal.
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Posts: 24038 From: Florida USA Registered: Aug 2002
What VIN do you assign to a car built from parts? DMC will take a VIN plate and title as trade in and build a completely new car around that VIN plate. I've been suggesting to Fiero enthusiast that they can also do that if they have a totalled out car they want to rebuild. Just get a VIN plate that you have clear title to and build a new car around it. That is perfectly legal.
Have you guys ever heard of SuperFormance? They make replica Cobras and other cars. What do they do? Those cars are street legal. Same with hot rods and what not.
There is a company out there now who develops from scratch, a complete new 69 Camaro body and frame from old molds. They sell the entire thing for 18 grand and you can get a hot rod title. I wonder why you wouldn't be able to do the same with a DeLorean.
As for the Fiero thing. I have an 87 SE with no title, and a rotted out 84 2m4 SE with a good title.
Are you saying i can swap vins on those and it would be legal? Cause I would totally do that in a heart beat if I could.
------------------ Todd, 2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX 1997 Pontiac Grand Am GT 1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 5-Speed 1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 (3.2L) Auto 1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE 1981 Pontiac TransAm (sbc 350) 1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
As for the Fiero thing. I have an 87 SE with no title, and a rotted out 84 2m4 SE with a good title.
Are you saying i can swap vins on those and it would be legal? Cause I would totally do that in a heart beat if I could.
I don't know about hot rods...maybe they have different rules for companies building street rods and rails. But if you intend to sell passener cars to the general public you have to meet all the current standards.
I don't know about other states but Texas DOT told me that if I have two parts cars that I want to combine into one good car I can use the VIN from the one I have title to regardless of which frame it was originally associated with.
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exoticse Member
Posts: 8654 From: Orlando, Fl Registered: Jun 2003
Wow i had been bypassing this thread, thinking it was something made up or someone goofing around. Great Pictures, man i would have loved to have gone on that tour !
Can you imagine what madcurl would do if he got his hands on one of those hehehehe, those purists would need 911 !
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Aug 8th, 2005
Cheever3000 Member
Posts: 12400 From: The Man from Tallahassee Registered: Aug 2001
Bump from page 3 for the evening crowd. The tour was awesome. The person who gave us the tour said he had phone conversations with John Delorean about once a month, and he met him 3 times.
I think what would be doable for the DMC, is to sell a DeLorean kit car. This would be similar to the cobra kits or any other kit. Their not selling a car, just parts to build a kit. Then you can get a title for it just as easy as anything else. If they offered it in a kit, they could even sell turn key kits. just my thought on the subject
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FastFieros Member
Posts: 2698 From: Dallas Texas USA Registered: Nov 2000
