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The verdict is still out, but bets are being taken at this time ... by Tina
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Report this Post10-17-2005 08:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TinaSend a Private Message to TinaDirect Link to This Post
I want to believe the trans is still good. Really, really do, but it just does not look very promising.
Both axles ... grrrrrrrrrr.

Driver side axle

Passenger side

Not looking forward to cleaning this up. Yuck.

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Report this Post10-17-2005 08:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
We're running out of spare manual trannies...
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What makes you think the tranny is bad if the axles exploded? That would mean they failed, aka, they were the weak link. What evidence do you have of tranny implosion?

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Report this Post10-17-2005 08:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Indiana_resto_guySend a Private Message to Indiana_resto_guyDirect Link to This Post
Normal RPM will do that every time there Tina!
Better change your shoes, that pair must have lead in them
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Report this Post10-17-2005 08:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TinaSend a Private Message to TinaDirect Link to This Post
Hey, I am good to go then.
Greg's the one who drove it.
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Report this Post10-17-2005 08:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for California KidSend a Private Message to California KidDirect Link to This Post
Hey Tina, been there done that, far too many times!!!

Opted for some Custom Build Assemblies to the tune of $1,700. Crazydave and myself starting running them in about the last 5 weeks.

They're made up by an Axle Builder here in lower Michigan, who designs his own axles and runs a AA Fuel Digger.

You'll more than likely find that right where the shaft goes into the tri-pod knuckle, the shaft is sheared through, along with some other parts fractured.

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Report this Post10-17-2005 09:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for revinSend a Private Message to revinDirect Link to This Post
wOw Tina greasin' up the track again" ( looks like some crazy grass you parked on as well !)

Are you saying that even after a cyro bath, you could break something inside?

Cali,
You ALWAYS have the cool stuff don't ya

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My mistake I thought it was a accident. "Edited post". Rick B

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Report this Post10-17-2005 09:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TinaSend a Private Message to TinaDirect Link to This Post
Hmmm, you guys been holding out on me.
Do you have a number for the guy, just might need to get a set.
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Originally posted by revin:

Cali,
You ALWAYS have the cool stuff don't ya


Cost bucks to go fast !!! I just got tired of being on the other side of town, every 2 years with axles looking like Tina's, and having to call a flatbed tow truck. I was running Mark Williams Racing high alloy splined shafts, and they'd still only last about 2 years before shearing (my car will twist stock shafts like pretzels).
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Originally posted by Tina:

Hmmm, you guys been holding out on me.
Do you have a number for the guy, just might need to get a set.


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Report this Post10-17-2005 09:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TinaSend a Private Message to TinaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by revin:

wOw Tina greasin' up the track again" ( looks like some crazy grass you parked on as well !)

Are you saying that even after a cyro bath, you could break something inside?


Wasn't too bad. Track was up and running again within minutes.
Yeah, now that you mention it, it doesn't look too hot.

Firm believer in cryo, more than ever, it's just well past history.
Just wish I could of got a few more runs in, the car was running stronger than ever.

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Report this Post10-17-2005 10:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for California KidSend a Private Message to California KidDirect Link to This Post
Well Tina, looks like the Phantom Grip works good, seeing as it took out both sides at once ! Before I installed my Phantom, it would take out one side or the other, never both.
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Report this Post10-17-2005 10:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
So, Tina, is that a Fiero Getrag? Have you done anything to it besides cryo and the Phantom Grip? If it held up ok, that's a big statement about the 282's strength. I'd much rather lunch an axle than a tranny.

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Report this Post10-17-2005 10:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TinaSend a Private Message to TinaDirect Link to This Post
Yeah, that's the Getrag. Cryo and the limited slip.
The lather is toast though it appears. The axles are still the ones out of my first 84/ SBC.

You should of seen the launch that broke it. WOW.
Over time I got pretty good watching the lights with one eye and focus with the other, getting some great shots of people with their cars.
Not this time though ... I had the car in focus and thought I had just capured the greatest shot ever. Some serious air under the front tire.
Nuttin ... the other car, yes. Not mine though.

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Report this Post10-17-2005 11:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for edheringClick Here to visit edhering's HomePageSend a Private Message to edheringDirect Link to This Post
O lord, Tina, every time I hear from or about you, your car is broken. What are you doing to the poor thing??

I hope it's just the axles...

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Report this Post10-18-2005 06:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
So how many holeshots on that 282 so far?
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Report this Post10-18-2005 09:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for m0sh_manSend a Private Message to m0sh_manDirect Link to This Post
How many passes did you make before the axles blew? get any good times?

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Report this Post10-18-2005 10:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KissMySSFieroSend a Private Message to KissMySSFieroDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Tina:

The axles are still the ones out of my first 84/ SBC.

Tina

That's a question I've always wanted to ask you about your setup. Still on that first set of axles. I'm impressed.

How many runs did you get in this year? Did you try to break into the 11's, or were you still holding back that night so you didn't get the boot.

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Originally posted by edhering:

O lord, Tina, every time I hear from or about you, your car is broken. What are you doing to the poor thing??

Ed

ENJOYING it, I'd wager.

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Wow - that's some tasty grease to clean up... bleah

Hopefully you didn't grenade anything (aside from the axels) too severely! Good luck with another round of repairs...

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I am assuming this means you fixed the broken valve.

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Report this Post10-18-2005 08:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
TIna, i was just tonight looking in to the phantom grip setup.
and now i want one even more.

more wishful thinking than anything really since i had a baby 2 weeks ago. and was fired 4 weeks ago.
how knows how long it will before i get to by any toys for myself.

if the stock axles held up this long to your stroker, then i'm sure my plan ol carbed engine will be just fine.

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Report this Post10-18-2005 09:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TinaSend a Private Message to TinaDirect Link to This Post
Think it's about 35 hole shots. (Legal ones that is)

And yes, we did improve on the times a little.

11.592 sec at 116.58 mph.

Tina
BTW Paul, yeah that pesky spring along with it's brothers went bye bye.

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Report this Post10-30-2005 12:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BigfieromanClick Here to visit Bigfieroman's HomePageSend a Private Message to BigfieromanDirect Link to This Post
Tina,

Did you ever take this apart and find out if it was the tranny or axles or what?

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Not yet. Procastinating a bit.
Did drop the fluid from the trans though ... just as clear as it was when I poured it in the day before
we went to the strip. No nothing in there that didn't belong.
Hopefully I'll get to it in the next couple days ... to be honest though ... the thought of all that greasy mess
and driving season pretty much being over isn't helping with the motivation.

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Originally posted by Tina:

...and driving season pretty much being over...

See local temp in sig.

All kidding aside, I hope nothing really ugly is wrong.

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Report this Post10-31-2005 12:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BigfieromanClick Here to visit Bigfieroman's HomePageSend a Private Message to BigfieromanDirect Link to This Post
I am asking because I managed to do the same exact thing to my axles, it looks identical, except for your dead grass and immaculate car. I am also procrastinating.
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Report this Post10-31-2005 11:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hoola47Send a Private Message to hoola47Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Tina:
Greg's the one who drove it.

It sounds like every time you break it, your not breaking it, someone else is? I remember reading how someone else on the forum drove your car into the 11's a while back (11.9 it was) and toasted the isuzu it was running. This is not an insult in any way, but do you drive your car on the strip?
If I had a high powered beast like this I wouldn't let anyone touch it, too much power that could cause some serious problems.

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Originally posted by hoola47:

It sounds like every time you break it, your not breaking it, someone else is?

That's because the manual trans cars take a "set in" by the main driver of the car, meaning they get used to that driver of the car. Put a stranger in there, the car doesn't like it one bit, and will start trashing parts. Old Wise Tale or maybe not, it the old days they said that doing this would really mess up the clutch.

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Report this Post10-31-2005 03:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
Hmm.. Ryan (fierox) Broke amir's getrag... Could be true???
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Originally posted by Jncomutt:

Hmm.. Ryan (fierox) Broke amir's getrag... Could be true???

LOL - but doesn't Ryan break the tranny in every car he drives?

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Originally posted by hoola47:


It sounds like every time you break it, your not breaking it, someone else is? I remember reading how someone else on the forum drove your car into the 11's a while back (11.9 it was) and toasted the isuzu it was running. This is not an insult in any way, but do you drive your car on the strip?
If I had a high powered beast like this I wouldn't let anyone touch it, too much power that could cause some serious problems.

Sounds like it ... doesn't it.

Truth is I can count the people that drove my car on one hand. No, not insulted by your post btw either.
The few that ended up driving my car, drove it because they are real good at it. Do I drive my car down the quarter mile ?
Sure do and it's not that I don't want to drive my car down the track everytime myself. Bottom line is reality.
A while back Jon drove the car, finished up the clutch for me, which was nothing big.
I knew it was slipping in 2nd before he agreed to make a few runs. 3 to be exact.
He broke into the 11's, 11.9 to be exact. So I knew the car could do it.
Trans was still good too, when we left the strip.

A few weeks ago I drove a 11.5. So I am getting better at it too.
The problem owning a car like this is, you get to like it.
I call it my little mental racing block ...if you put as much work and money into the car you/I just don't beat it down the track
like somebody who isn't as attached to it.

The other person who got to drive the car down the track was Greg, my BF. He does almost nothing but work on fast cars.
When I handed him the helmet a few weeks ago and asked him to drive the car,
... alright honey, see if you can turn a better time ..., I knew chances would be "something" would break.
He too is at home at the strip, but also knows my car inside out. The man can drive and he knows the capabilties of the car.
My money was on the trans. He reluctantly agreed and it did break. No hard feelings here, just proves there are remnants left of that
mental block of mine. If it wasn't, it would of broke it while I was driving it.

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Report this Post11-01-2005 12:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WhuffoClick Here to visit Whuffo's HomePageSend a Private Message to WhuffoDirect Link to This Post
Hard to be sure from looking at pictures, but I'd be willing to bet that the tranny survived and all you need is a new (and much stronger) set of axles.

Something else you might want to consider is doing a little math and adjusting the rear tire size / composition so that when you get to the point were something is going to give, it's the tires that spin rather than expen$ive drivetrain parts breaking. This won't slow you down on the track if you size them right...

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