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3800SC Valve Covers Billet Made with OEM gasket by FastFieros
Started on: 03-16-2006 09:34 PM
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Report this Post03-16-2006 09:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FastFierosClick Here to visit FastFieros's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastFierosDirect Link to This Post
Yes, the billet made valve covers are finally done.

They are sweet...

Price is $600 includes shipping.

I will be trying to get the blocks of aluminum cheaper in order to reduce costs. The mill chews on these things for 3 hours each. 3 phase is not fun to pay for I can assure you.

OK, I know the first thing someone is going to ask.. Where is the oil fill? Well, if you follow my 3800SC installs, you will notice I do not flip the valve covers, so I lont like the oil fill anyway. How do you put oil in ? There is a weld in oil fill solution for this problem. I it is included for $50 extra. What will I do? I will drill and TAP a 3/8 NPT into the SIDE of the valve cover, and use a -10 hose fitting with hose to fill the engine with oil. Like I really put oil in an engine real often to worry about this.

Loyde

PS... For those that just have to have a fill point..

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Report this Post03-16-2006 09:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rverhalenSend a Private Message to rverhalenDirect Link to This Post
Those look sweet Loyde!

That really adds a nice touch to the 3800 SC


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That is absolutely awesome! Throw a set in when you ship my AC lines back to me

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Report this Post03-16-2006 10:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MstangsBwareSend a Private Message to MstangsBwareDirect Link to This Post
I tell you what, I will give you $300.00 for them and advertise them for you for free. That sounds like a good deal to me. I will be over this weekend to get them.
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Report this Post03-17-2006 01:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroXSend a Private Message to fieroXDirect Link to This Post
Loyde was telling me that the aluminum blocks alone were over $200.

Those look awesome. I definitely want a set that have a huge X on them. or maybe fieroX, or brandX, I dont know. iM conFUsed?

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Report this Post03-17-2006 03:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for daniel87fierogtSend a Private Message to daniel87fierogtDirect Link to This Post
OMG Those are absolutely to die for. I would give my left nut to have a pair of those : well maybe not but those are incredible looking. Post some pics of them on a 3800 preferably in the car.
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Report this Post03-17-2006 04:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for NorthFloridaFieroSend a Private Message to NorthFloridaFieroDirect Link to This Post
Those are beautiful lloyd.
I got a couple friends here with a cnc machine that dont know how to use it
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Report this Post03-17-2006 07:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RacinRobClick Here to visit RacinRob's HomePageSend a Private Message to RacinRobDirect Link to This Post
Do you really have to post these on here and ClubGP. I mean really now I have to be jelous twice.

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Report this Post03-17-2006 08:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for revinSend a Private Message to revinDirect Link to This Post
Looks SUPER !!!
But do we HAVE to have fastfieros on them

Will they warp? how long have you had them for testing???

OH YEAH and what kind of payment plan do you offer? owner financing??

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Report this Post03-17-2006 09:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cliffwSend a Private Message to cliffwDirect Link to This Post
Nice work Lloyde. Are you gonna throw them in with turn key installs ?
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Report this Post03-17-2006 01:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 86fieroEarlSend a Private Message to 86fieroEarlDirect Link to This Post
Very sweet indeed. I can't wait to see what they look like installed

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Are they deeper/taller than stock valve covers?
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Report this Post03-17-2006 04:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FastFierosClick Here to visit FastFieros's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastFierosDirect Link to This Post
Stock in size and inside area..

I was thinking about some taller ones. I think there is a set of rockers out there that are too tall for stock valve covers.

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Report this Post03-18-2006 03:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Steven SnyderClick Here to visit Steven Snyder's HomePageSend a Private Message to Steven SnyderDirect Link to This Post
Those look awesome!! But you're milling those out of solid blocks? Isn't that just a wee bit wasteful?

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Holy hell those things are sweet. Shame that you have to close the decklid and cover 'em up.

 
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Those look awesome!! But you're milling those out of solid blocks? Isn't that just a wee bit wasteful?

How else are you going to make something like that? That's how they make rims, shifters, ect...blocks of the silver shiney stuff.

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How else are you going to make something like that? That's how they make rims, shifters, ect...blocks of the silver shiney stuff.

They sure as heck don't! They cast something similar in shape to the wheel then machine it down to the final dimensions. Look at your wheels. They are CAST. You can easily see the casting flaws and marks on the back side of the spokes where it is unecessary to machine them since that part isnt seen.

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They sure as heck don't! They cast something similar in shape to the wheel then machine it down to the final dimensions. Look at your wheels. They are CAST. You can easily see the casting flaws and marks on the back side of the spokes where it is unecessary to machine them since that part isnt seen.

I believe he's talking about aftermarket billet wheels, such as HREs.

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I believe he's talking about aftermarket billet wheels, such as HREs.

Those are made from forged blanks. They are still not rectangular blocks, but roughly wheel shaped forged slugs that are then fully machined.

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Report this Post03-20-2006 08:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FastFierosClick Here to visit FastFieros's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastFierosDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by cliffw:

Nice work Lloyde. Are you gonna throw them in with turn key installs ?

Yes. When some one spends $12,500 on a turnkey install (which I have had about 5 of those in recent), the valve covers will be offered at $250 with any custom lettering that the mill machine and software can handle.

At $14,000 turnkey, they are FREE with the install. (only had 2 of these).

Here is another example of the lettering.

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Report this Post03-20-2006 12:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for northeastfieroSend a Private Message to northeastfieroDirect Link to This Post
Hi Loyde it`s Carl from the Uk what extra will it cost for me to have them on mine.
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Report this Post03-23-2006 12:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Nebiros88Click Here to visit Nebiros88's HomePageSend a Private Message to Nebiros88Direct Link to This Post
Hey Loyde,
How much for a totally smooth outside? no lettering..... Any discount for previous turn-key installs?

Also had a kind off hand question... would TOG/SLP headers fit the getrag without modification if it had a different connecting pipe over the trans.? So I could buy the headers and just fab up a cross pipe to connect them?

Usually I would email this but these covers are so sweet I had to bump the thread...
*bump*

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Report this Post03-23-2006 01:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FastFierosClick Here to visit FastFieros's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastFierosDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Nebiros88:

Hey Loyde,
How much for a totally smooth outside? no lettering..... Any discount for previous turn-key installs?

Also had a kind off hand question... would TOG/SLP headers fit the getrag without modification if it had a different connecting pipe over the trans.? So I could buy the headers and just fab up a cross pipe to connect them?

Usually I would email this but these covers are so sweet I had to bump the thread...
*bump*

I have a guy that has a better mill make an offer to do these for me now. I should have a new set in about 2-3 weeks.

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Originally posted by FastFieros:
I have a guy that has a better mill make an offer to do these for me now. I should have a new set in about 2-3 weeks.

Loyde

Is the price going to be the same or will it come down a little?

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Report this Post03-23-2006 03:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FastFierosClick Here to visit FastFieros's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastFierosDirect Link to This Post
Down is definitely the goal... I even think $550 - 600 is way to much.

I think $450 a set would be nice, but this is still no oil fill. Add $50 for oil fill.

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I have a guy that has a better mill make an offer to do these for me now. I should have a new set in about 2-3 weeks.

Loyde

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What makes you think this guy has a "better" mill?


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Report this Post03-24-2006 09:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FastFierosClick Here to visit FastFieros's HomePageSend a Private Message to FastFierosDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 3800GMCC:

What makes you think this guy has a "better" mill?

I would rate a 'mill' as better in comparsion to my mill. Mine is 14 years old, the controller is outdated compared to the easier to load and input data controllers that exist today. Multi tool changing mills and lathes reduce total time on the machine giving a better price in the end.

If we are charging $75 per hour mill time, and it takes 3 hours cutting, tool changing, changing the part in the fixture, this all adds to the price figure. Multi axis, multi tool machines reduce this time to 1.5 hours, and it equals savings in the end.

Then there is the marketing. If someone else is building the product, but you decide to market the product for them, answer all the questions that come in, and try to justify the cost in the end, there time involved in that person.

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Originally posted by FastFieros:

Yes, the billet made valve covers are finally done.

They are sweet...

Price is $600 includes shipping.

I will be trying to get the blocks of aluminum cheaper in order to reduce costs. The mill chews on these things for 3 hours each. 3 phase is not fun to pay for I can assure you.

OK, I know the first thing someone is going to ask.. Where is the oil fill? Well, if you follow my 3800SC installs, you will notice I do not flip the valve covers, so I lont like the oil fill anyway. How do you put oil in ? There is a weld in oil fill solution for this problem. I it is included for $50 extra. What will I do? I will drill and TAP a 3/8 NPT into the SIDE of the valve cover, and use a -10 hose fitting with hose to fill the engine with oil. Like I really put oil in an engine real often to worry about this.

Loyde

PS... For those that just have to have a fill point..

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