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How hard to change the wheel bolt pattern - new brakes? by pacethis
Started on: 12-21-2006 02:02 PM
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Report this Post12-21-2006 02:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pacethisSend a Private Message to pacethisDirect Link to This Post
Hi everyone, I've been looking at a very nice set of Kinesis rims from a 350Z, but the bolt spacing is 5x114.5.

So how hard would it be to put on some new brakes, etc to make this work? I'd be saving enough on the wheels to put a fair amount toward a brake update, and these cars have an available Brembo Kit that should be excellent.
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Report this Post12-21-2006 02:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
It depends...do you have 84-87 or 88? It ranges from difficult to nearly impossible. I've seen people swap out hubs to get different bolt patterns on 84-87, but I have only seen one person do it on an 88.
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Report this Post12-21-2006 03:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for flames4meSend a Private Message to flames4meDirect Link to This Post
i believe you can just redrill the stock fiero rear hubs to 114.5 and 115. if someone has more info on this, i am going to do this to my v8 this summer, i would also like more information

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Report this Post12-21-2006 03:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pacethisSend a Private Message to pacethisDirect Link to This Post
That'd be great if they can be redrilled...because I have a 1988 and it sounds like it might be difficult otherwise...
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Report this Post12-21-2006 04:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
I don't think the hubs can just be redrilled, If it were that simple I would have done it by now. Someone with more knowledge will chime in here soon, but there's a lot more to it than that.

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Report this Post12-21-2006 05:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroWannaBeSend a Private Message to FieroWannaBeDirect Link to This Post
its been done, but for the effort, you could redrill the rotors, and it would be safer IMO.

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Report this Post12-21-2006 05:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Russ544Send a Private Message to Russ544Direct Link to This Post
if you have an 88 the front hubs can be re-drilled without any problem. earlier models don't have enough meat on them to re-drill to the larger pattern. you will most likely need to use a concentric ring to center your new rims on the Fiero hubs also.
the rear hubs are the same diameter on all years and all are too small to re-drill.

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Report this Post12-21-2006 05:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Russ544:

if you have an 88 the front hubs can be re-drilled without any problem. earlier models don't have enough meat on them to re-drill to the larger pattern. you will most likely need to use a concentric ring to center your new rims on the Fiero hubs also.
the rear hubs are the same diameter on all years and all are too small to re-drill.

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I knew it was something like that. For the rear you are going to have to weld on more meat because the hubs are too small to simply re drill.
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Report this Post12-21-2006 05:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for bubbajoexxxClick Here to visit bubbajoexxx's HomePageSend a Private Message to bubbajoexxxDirect Link to This Post
to get the 115 bolt patern on the rear use pontiac 6000 heavy duty rear bearing hubs and 6000 axle ends

the front can be done as well but you need to cut the axle end off of an axle and bolt it together in the hub to retain the bearing

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Report this Post12-21-2006 06:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AquaHuskySend a Private Message to AquaHuskyDirect Link to This Post
Why not just buy adapters? I've seen people use them a couple times to go from 4 to 5 lug and to change the bolt pattern too, not just for spacing.
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Originally posted by AquaHusky:

Why not just buy adapters? I've seen people use them a couple times to go from 4 to 5 lug and to change the bolt pattern too, not just for spacing.


wheel adapter put tremendos stress on the wheel bearings as you move the wheels center out over the bearings load center and out to the outer row causing premature bearing failure
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Report this Post12-21-2006 06:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Russ544Send a Private Message to Russ544Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by bubbajoexxx:


wheel adapter put tremendos stress on the wheel bearings as you move the wheels center out over the bearings load center and out to the outer row causing premature bearing failure


not to mention premature driver failure. those adaptors are actually illegal in many states, and for good reason. they tend to break, with unpleasant results.
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Report this Post12-21-2006 10:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Marvin McInnisClick Here to visit Marvin McInnis's HomePageSend a Private Message to Marvin McInnisDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Russ544:

if you have an 88 the front hubs can be re-drilled without any problem ... the rear hubs are the same diameter on all years and all are too small to re-drill.



Exactly right. The '88 front hubs can be redrilled up to a 4.75 inch (120 mm) bolt circle and still maintain adequate strength. The rear hubs require a totally different plan.
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Report this Post12-21-2006 11:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroWannaBeSend a Private Message to FieroWannaBeDirect Link to This Post
if you want to change the pattern on a pre-88

http://www.streetdreamsbyross.com/dropknuckles.php
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Report this Post12-25-2006 09:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pacethisSend a Private Message to pacethisDirect Link to This Post
You guys are awesome
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