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Fiero safety training... by yellowstone
Started on: 08-28-2007 05:27 AM
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Report this Post08-28-2007 05:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for yellowstoneSend a Private Message to yellowstoneDirect Link to This Post
My aunt and uncle gave me a vehicle safety training course for my birthday (last December!) and last weekend I got around to actually doing it. I took place on a training track of the ADAC (the German AAA) half an hour from where I live.

We learned to improve our driving under difficult conditions such as wet and slippery surfaces, curves, in unexpected situations, emergency braking (I just can't lock up my rear brakes!), hard braking while avoiding an obstacle at the same time and much more...

I was the only car in the group without ABS, ESP, airbags, stability control etc...

My wife took some video that I made into a short clip:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqa-jjraDRU

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Report this Post08-28-2007 05:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PontiacJ829Click Here to visit PontiacJ829's HomePageSend a Private Message to PontiacJ829Direct Link to This Post
Looks like fun! Props to Lyen for the good video taking too.
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Report this Post08-28-2007 08:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for InaneCathodeSend a Private Message to InaneCathodeDirect Link to This Post
Lol imagine how few americans would have drivers licenses if they were subjected to german driving standards.
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Report this Post08-28-2007 12:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for VFR182Send a Private Message to VFR182Direct Link to This Post
Your car is super nice, one of the best upgraded ones I have seen. Not bad driving either. nice work!
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Report this Post08-28-2007 04:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for heavyRfootSend a Private Message to heavyRfootDirect Link to This Post
i did the about the same thing back in high school. it was a BSR course for defensive driveing. i think the most fun part was what they called the skid pad it was a circle that they sprayed water on and the teacher would make you throw the car sideways like drifting in on circle. then we did the whole thing with braking in the corners and stopping on ice and a whole lot of other thing. but we did not have that one giant skid pad like you that and we used old cop car. it was a blast i would recomend it to anybody that wants to have fun but also learn a lot about controlling a car when you get into that kind of promblem. by the way nice driving there and your car looks great like always does.
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Report this Post08-28-2007 10:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Austrian ImportSend a Private Message to Austrian ImportDirect Link to This Post
Cool, looks very similar to the Öamtc (Austrian version of ADAC) training course I wanted to take, pretty much since, since I turned 18. Wish the American AAA would be more like an Automobile club (offering services that clubs do) and less like a car insurance company (Insurance, roadside assistance, maps, discounts)

The closest schools I found that were similar stateside, were www.AudiDrivingExperience.com and the BMW driving school (latter having more of the "water walls" and "water spin pad" (unpredictable "water traps" as opposed to a simply wet skid pad)

Yellowstone, do you have more videos by any chance? This is really cool to watch..

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Report this Post08-29-2007 11:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for yellowstoneSend a Private Message to yellowstoneDirect Link to This Post
Do you mean videos of the driving training or Fiero videos in general? I do have the raw clips that were taken at the training course but the stuff that's in the video that I posted on YouTube is the best part. All my Fiero vids are available here: .http://www.youtube.com/resu...+fiero&search=Search

 
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Yellowstone, do you have more videos by any chance? This is really cool to watch..

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Report this Post08-29-2007 11:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for whadeduckSend a Private Message to whadeduckDirect Link to This Post
The water-induced spins look kinda fun. Well, at least after the first time and you stop peeing yourself.

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Originally posted by yellowstone:

Do you mean videos of the driving training or Fiero videos in general? I do have the raw clips that were taken at the training course but the stuff that's in the video that I posted on YouTube is the best part. All my Fiero vids are available here: .http://www.youtube.com/resu...+fiero&search=Search



Driver's training. Doesn't have to be just the Fiero. Kinda curious how the other cars fared too.
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Report this Post08-29-2007 04:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for timgrayClick Here to visit timgray's HomePageSend a Private Message to timgrayDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by InaneCathode:

Lol imagine how few americans would have drivers licenses if they were subjected to german driving standards.


I can only dream that that would happen. A large portion of the American drivers should not have licenses.
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Report this Post08-29-2007 04:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroRumorClick Here to visit FieroRumor's HomePageSend a Private Message to FieroRumorDirect Link to This Post
ooooo! That looked like FUN!
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Report this Post09-02-2007 04:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for yellowstoneSend a Private Message to yellowstoneDirect Link to This Post
Vidcaps of the aboce clip:















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Report this Post09-02-2007 04:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fojoSend a Private Message to fojoDirect Link to This Post
If it's still like it was when I lived in Berlin, you had to graduate from driving school just to get a license - none of this "Mom will teach you how to drive". The only place you could drive otherwise was on an 'Uebungsgelaende' - kind of like Golf'n'Stuff for unlicensed drivers.
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Report this Post09-02-2007 06:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fie RoSend a Private Message to Fie RoDirect Link to This Post
Carwash included, cool ! I want to follow some similar course when my upgrades are done. Its good to get to know what your car does in these conditions... I tried some stuff on an icy empty parking parkinglot and did some winterdriving and that experience helped in at least one occasion to get a swinging back under control...theres no time to think so you have to react automatically !
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Report this Post09-03-2007 12:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Nice video. Question(s); during the straight run through the water were you trying to lock-up the brakes or was the spin out caused by trying to steer straight through? It seems you mastered it during the last two runs.

When the track instructor (women) came to the car, what was she saying? What was the purpose of that run? Breaking while in a curve?
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Report this Post09-03-2007 06:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for yellowstoneSend a Private Message to yellowstoneDirect Link to This Post
Good and valid questions.

1) The straight run is fitted with a device that brakes your rear axle loose as you pass over it. The challenge is to control the car by counter-steering on a wet and slippery surface that has the traction characteristics of packed snow.

2) The purpose of the second exercise you've mentioned was emergency braking while in a curve. Easy for the other cars with ABS but I had to alternate between braking and steering. The instructor was saying that I didn't manage to lock up the rear brakes. Now I'm getting Archie's big brake kit... :-)

We did other exercises (the training was from 8:30 am to 6 pm) but either they looked unexiting on video or Lyen was too far away to make good shots.

 
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Nice video. Question(s); during the straight run through the water were you trying to lock-up the brakes or was the spin out caused by trying to steer straight through? It seems you mastered it during the last two runs.

When the track instructor (women) came to the car, what was she saying? What was the purpose of that run? Breaking while in a curve?


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Report this Post09-03-2007 01:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Austrian ImportSend a Private Message to Austrian ImportDirect Link to This Post
I'm sure even the boring stuff might be a good teaching tool, if you add some captions to it (or walk us through what we're looking at) How much is that course anyways?

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Report this Post09-03-2007 07:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero ThomasSend a Private Message to Fiero ThomasDirect Link to This Post
I would have spent all day in the water and spun out if I were there. They did not have these places when I lived in Germany.

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