I have bought some new parts and have decided to widen my car during my holidays i am wondering ?
Have you changed stud patterns ?
What sort of sizes have you got ?
How much are we talking $ ?
How has handling improved for you ?

I am assuming there would be a bit of choice with the lambo and ferrari kits but which way do you go?

I definatly am wide boding my car now so i am starting to look around for rims. If you have bought any post your links. I am assuming i am gonna have to buy 3 piece wheels
the rim itself , and a centre to bolt, and centre cap for dressing.

Has anyone changed the bold pattern and found a cheaper option. eg mustang, vette

Ok my Wide body IMSA uses 15X10's in the rear and 15X9's in the front. They came with the car and the previous owner "said" they cost $2500 new in 1984. Although they are Compmotive light weight 3 piece rims, so they should be more expensive. I searched Summit racing and rims around 17X10 can be had for under $500 a piece. As far as bolt pattern you would have to ask. Mine are stock 5X100. Best I can say is shop around. Maybe you could find some at a swap meet and have them redrilled. Some have simply had wheels widened, so there are options out there. Good luck.

Well i had even bigger in mind i know i am up for big bucks 18x10s or 19x10's.
Ideally i want a 3 piece wheel with deep dish 5 spoke so rim can be replaced if damaged.
Centers will always be fine on a deep dish so unlikely to scratch etc.
This option is usually expensive but easier to get right offset and bolt pattern.

Many other cars have 10 inch wheels on them but need to find the offset or make up the offset with spacers different studs. This wont im guessing give the deepest possible look as the offset of fiero is already quite high if i give up dish idea and find something 10 inch suitable it would require no modification to bolt pattern but bolt pattern changes with spacer bolts.

Or grind off the bolts and re tap a new bolt pattern eg: like a bmw and find a set of 10 inch wheels with same offset and find some deep dishes reasonably priced and make the car fit the rim.

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You will need 3-piece wheels with a 5x100 bolt pattern. Look at ROH Wheel or Simmons Wheel (Australia). I would not do anything less then 17".
Do not use any adapter to change the stud pattern.
The price for 3-piece ROH here in the US
FRONT: 19x9 $1651 (2)
REAR: 19x11 $1766 (2)
$3417 + $175 shipping.


PS
Do me a favor if you can? Can you get a quote from ROH with the above specifications?
Thanks

Here is a widebody w/o choptop and HREs.

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quote Originally posted by FierociousGT: You will need 3-piece wheels with a 5x100 bolt pattern. Look at ROH Wheel or Simmons Wheel (Australia). I would not do anything less then 17". Do not use any adapter to change the stud pattern. The price for 3-piece ROH here in the US FRONT: 19x9 $1651 (2) REAR: 19x11 $1766 (2) $3417 + $175 shipping. PS Do me a favor if you can? Can you get a quote from ROH with the above specifications? Thanks Here is a widebody w/o choptop and HREs.

I was thinking i could save on the front buying a 5 spoke wheels for rear.
and 8 inch wide to match on the front elsewhere as the deep dishes may conceal any slight differences.If i find some 3 piece wheels that i like the centers for secondhand i might buy them and get the right dish to suit.

i actually i dont think that top is chopped.

If you want wide wheels in a Fiero you will have to pay. And I mean to pay big bucks. There is no $200 10"+ wide rim for a Fiero. Those cheap ones you may see maybe in 15" and 16" dia. are for RWD cars and even if you change the bolt pattern the backspacing will not work. Look here who has recent fat rear wheels and ask what they paid. The most you will get cheap is a 9.5" rim but that may not be enough. If you put a widebody and really want it to look badass (and right) then save a lot for proper rims/tires. There is nothing more stunning than a fat a$$ Fiero with fat a$$ tires like those from Chuck, Troy or Madcurl.

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quote Originally posted by Australian: i actually i dont think that top is chopped.

He said "w/o choptop", meaning "with out choptop"

THIS is Chopped:

quote Originally posted by jscott1: He said "w/o choptop", meaning "with out choptop" THIS is Chopped:

Looks GREAT!

[This message has been edited by FierociousGT (edited 09-20-2007).]

You're cheapest way is to use a 1" spacer with a 5x114.3 bolt swap. ALOT of people are fully against adapters, however I've had tons of experience with them.

It's all about how you install / maintain them. When you run adapters OR / AND heavy rims, your hubs are obviously going to take a beating. Make sure your bearings are in proper working order and check them regularly.

Be sure that you TORQUE the spacers and rims down, and check religiously after 25 / 10 / 200 miles.

Don't go over a 1" spacer...

You can find alot of staggered rims in a 5x114.3 RWD pattern for pretty cheap. Look for 350Z rims.

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quote Originally posted by Custom2M4: You can find alot of staggered rims in a 5x114.3 RWD pattern for pretty cheap. Look for 350Z rims.

But how do you get matching wheels for the front without adapters and completely screwing up the offset up front??

Does anyone know where i can get spacers to change the studd pattern from 100 x 5 to 114 x 5


The link below is to change 4 x 100 into 5 x 114 this is useful for old E30 Bmws and Mustangs.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/e...STRK:MEWA:PIC&ih=019

Just seeing what is available for the fiero.

[This message has been edited by Australian (edited 09-20-2007).]

Here is the page. Be aware of the thickness they offer...from 1" to 3" thick


http://search.ebay.com/sear...+adapters&category0=

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quote Originally posted by IMSA GT: Here is the page. Be aware of the thickness they offer...from 1" to 3" thick http://search.ebay.com/sear...+adapters&category0=

Hmm Have to work out what sort of offset i am gonna end up with if i bolted those on any genius know it off hand what offset 20mm and 25mm spacers = as an offset

If you're looking for 1-2" why not use the A-arm extentions that are used for replicas from Held/Lee motorsports. You could then use a 20x8.5 on the rear.

quote Originally posted by jscott1: But how do you get matching wheels for the front without adapters and completely screwing up the offset up front??

example one;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...dZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

+40 offset for the fronts. 18x8.5. With a one inch spacer (25mm), you will be 20mm off from a factory wheel. Assuming that you don't put a huge tire on the front of the car, it might be pulled off under a factory fender...... But who wants to keep a factory fender.. Just get some nice rims and build the kit around them (front AND back). It's not hard to make a little fender lip extension.

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i will spend weekend working on side skirts still haven't finished them, hopefully the flares arrive early in week (front and rear) so i can mold them all in and get an idea of how much width i have got.

[This message has been edited by Australian (edited 09-21-2007).]

depending on what your stock rims are now, the above set up 8.5" rim, 40mm offset and a 1" spacer would actually be 32.5mm out. I forgot to compensate for the width of the rim vs stock :P.

i get some ridicule for the style of wheel i like, but in this case it's going to work in my favor. i'm going to choose bettween two sets of wheels i have that are the same. both have 17x10's as the rear pair but with different offsets. don't know how well that would work with other people since i have a small stockpile of the same wheel and can can swap out or match up a front/rear set depending on how wide i decide to try and make the car.

my only problem will be bolt pattern, but i plan to use the next size up 115x5 pattern off a larger gm car. thers's a .7mm difference in bolt pattern size (both pairs are from japanese gt cars. i forgot which ones), but i stuck one on my wifes car 2005 impala, and i just couldn't tell any size difference. went right on and didn't rock back and forth like it wasn't seated good or something. i see arguements back and forth as to weather it should be done, but i guess i'll find out for myself. for the front if i need to i have two sets of 17x7.5 with 5x100mm bolt pattern, but if i can i want to go with the wheels that match either pair of the 10's, which are 8.5" wide.

kind of an odd way to go about it i know, but if you can make it work for you...

Check these rims out. I'm sure he is using a rear 20" with a 5x114 adapter. Of course no reply from owner.

http://westcoastfieros.com/...sts.asp?TID=133&PN=1

http://www.axiswheels.com/wheels.php?id=matrix

I spoke with the guys at Axis and they strongly advised against adapters.

[This message has been edited by FierociousGT (edited 09-22-2007).]

quote Originally posted by FierociousGT: Check these rims out. I'm sure he is using a rear 20" with a 5x114 adapter. Of course no reply from owner. http://westcoastfieros.com/...sts.asp?TID=133&PN=1 http://www.axiswheels.com/wheels.php?id=matrix I spoke with the guys at Axis and they strongly advised against adapters.

These would be perfect as i would like to not flare the front and stick to 8 inch thick. I am guessing there is no spacer as the fronts are 8 inches and they fit under the guards suggesting a massive offset with spacer or correct fit.

I just saw the available sizes i am guessing the fronts are perfect fit and rear with adaptors.

[This message has been edited by Australian (edited 09-23-2007).]

i just typed into google " fiero wide wheels" and this post cam up number #5 i did find some lambo replica wheels http://www.lambolounge.com/...wheels/rims/rims.asp just surfing for others

Here's one way to change the bolt pattern for the back. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/080454.html
You could then re-drill the new hubs for any other size. Fornts would also need to be re-drilled.

This isn't a suspension geometry thread, but by spacing out the front wheels, doesn't this really screw up the scrub radius of the front tires? A-arm extensions or complete modification would be the right way to go.

Bob

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2.5" spacers are what I had on my camaro and it was 5x4 3/4 - 5x114 on a heavy 3rd gen camaro I had that car for 5 years with the spacers and they NEVER came loose, never broke, never messed up alignment. I was using 18x8 rims and drag raced it every weekend for 2 years so with a 400hp v8 with (on a average day) had a 150 fogger and on the race day had 200-250. Those spacers took constant low 11's on street tires and high 10's on drag radials and when I went to get them off when the wrecker came for the car I broke a socket and a tire iron trying to get them off (which I did not succeed).

quote Originally posted by madcurl: If you're looking for 1-2" why not use the A-arm extentions that are used for replicas from Held/Lee motorsports. You could then use a 20x8.5 on the rear.

I am letting my Ronal LZ set go for a cheap price (considering). 17x8" Front, and 18x9" Rear... The set will come with Pirreli P-Zero tires (used). $1500 + Shipping These would go great with Held's extensions. (see sig)

I'm going with a lighter set for racing.

PS - Curley, I "should" be getting my car back from Norm on the 15th.

Greg

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quote Originally posted by madcurl: If you're looking for 1-2" why not use the A-arm extentions that are used for replicas from Held/Lee motorsports. You could then use a 20x8.5 on the rear.

Then you have to run longer axles. The cost's are alot more... You can always do this at a later date if your not comfortable running spacers

quote Originally posted by madcurl: If you're looking for 1-2" why not use the A-arm extentions that are used for replicas from Held/Lee motorsports. You could then use a 20x8.5 on the rear.

naaa i would prefer to fit wider than 8.5 on rear since im not trying to replicate anything just fill the flares out.

I am thinking i will want 8.5 on front and 10's on back. I am thinking i should buy the wheels before i fit my guards so i can close up any gaps and make a perfect fit with fibreglass.

I was looking at replica wheels thinking many would suit fieros hoping the kitcar market might have made them cheaper over time. I have seen some lambo replica wheels $1500-$5000 second hand yesterday not that i am hell bent on going that idea but at $1500 id consider them only some i like just a hassle trying to get anyone to courier anything to Australia. So i will probably buy the wheel locally to save on freight.

I am thinking the way to go might be to buy 350z wheels and spacers and change the stud pattern if i dont feel comfortable with idea or if i need the wheels to sit under the car further.

Have you used Joe Torma's diagrams to give you an idea on what widths an offsets will work for you?
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/058236.html

Bob

quote Originally posted by FierociousGT: Check these rims out. I'm sure he is using a rear 20" with a 5x114 adapter. Of course no reply from owner. http://westcoastfieros.com/...sts.asp?TID=133&PN=1 http://www.axiswheels.com/wheels.php?id=matrix I spoke with the guys at Axis and they strongly advised against adapters.

The more i look at these pics i think the wheels could be wider. Eg fitting further under car i think the spacers make the wheels stick out too far looking and imagining 8 inch wheels would still stick out a lot with those spacers

quote Originally posted by RCR: Have you used Joe Torma's diagrams to give you an idea on what widths an offsets will work for you? https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/058236.html Bob

His diagrams only go to 8 inches.

Boyd Coddington rims
rear: 245 50 zr16
front: 205 50 r15

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I am liking the TSW Nogaro's

http://www.wheelsdirectonline.com/tsw/nogaro.htm
http://www.tsw.com/productline_all.php

the most likely sizes to fit will be i think 18x8 and 19x9.5

I am wondering if i can fit a 18x9 on front and 20x10 on rear
or 19x8 no front flare and 19x9.5 or the 20x10 on rear
seems the right stud pattern i am assuming these will fit wondering if a 20 will fit i have 86
lowered no coil overs.

Others could be interested that have archies wide body what wheels are you thinking to suit?

Check out http://www.rimstock.co.uk/

They are one of the few manufacturers that make a wide range of relatively low offset rims in 5x100 and others bolt patters. Their Pro Race 1.2 comes in 9" width for the 17" rim and as wide as 12" for the 18" diameter rims.

I have a set of their Pro Race 1 rims in 17x7 for the front and 17x8 for the rear. Front offset is +35mm and rear offset is +23mm.


FierOmar

[This message has been edited by FierOmar (edited 10-25-2007).]

I did my IMSA the hard way. 17x10 Raceline GT in the rear and Faulkin 17x7 in the front. the Racelines are made for a RWD application, but by using a 3/4" adaptor the offset and bolt pattern both come out correctly. I originally had Racelines on the front also but the offset was off enough to adversly affect the handling. I'll have the Racelines sprayed with poly so the color matches better in the future. the Faulkins are a 40mm offset so they're a bolt on (car is an 88)
tire size is 275 - 40 - 17 rear and 215 - 45 - 17 front


Russ544

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good to know. i was told a 275 would look too puny on a widebody and that was my first choice (then you can catch sales on them 'cause it's a stock corvette size). i went back and checked the absolute max width i could get away with and it's 315/35-17. i plan to hunt around for a used set and mount them one on one offset wheel and one on the other (and take one 275 i have already off one 17x10 pair and put it on the other 17x10" wheel i have with a different offset) and see which combo suits what i want to do.

just a random question about rims. will sti rims fit on our cars? if not what has to be done to make them fit? i only ask this because i have 2 sets in my garage 1 with slicks. sorry for the thread jack

quote Originally posted by kyp: just a random question about rims. will sti rims fit on our cars? if not what has to be done to make them fit? i only ask this because i have 2 sets in my garage 1 with slicks. sorry for the thread jack

If I recall correctly, the STI uses a +50mm offset. (maybe +48), so if you want to use them, you will likely need some spacers. I can't recall how wide they are, but believe all four corners are the same.

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FierOmar

thanks i was just wondering. also i was wondering thost adapptors that change it from 5x100 to 5x144.3 are they reliable and what factory rims would they fit on? someone said somthing about 350z rims does anyone know if they witll fit at all?

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