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88 Fiero GT L67/5-speed swap pics by Darth Fiero
Started on: 03-17-2007 11:24 PM
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Darth Fiero
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Report this Post03-17-2007 11:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Darth FieroClick Here to visit Darth Fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to Darth FieroDirect Link to This Post
-1988 Fiero GT
-1998 L67 engine ultra low miles
-5-speed Getrag trans w/ SPEC Stage 2+ clutch
-1998 OBD-2 PCM reprogrammed by me
-L32 (3800 Series 3 SC) returnless stainless-steel fuel rails (FPR remotely mounted)
-3.5" SC pulley
-CNC ported supercharger housing (by http://www.tripleedgeperformance.com)
-Northstar V8 throttle body (adapter made by http://www.tripleedgeperformance.com)
-Bullet-proof rubber motor/trans mounts
-Custom aluminum dog-bone mount bracket
-Sunbird Tach/Boost gauge mod

























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Report this Post03-18-2007 06:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for topcatSend a Private Message to topcatDirect Link to This Post
Looks awesone....

I really like this mount. Is this something you'd be willing to make available for sale? I'd be interested in buying one.

 
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Report this Post03-18-2007 07:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fierokid87Send a Private Message to Fierokid87Direct Link to This Post
where did you get the headers and cross over pipe? Those look so much better then putting a dent in the trunk just to make the exaust fit.

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I like this mount also also interested in how you did the sunbird boost/tach.
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Report this Post03-18-2007 09:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for John BoelteSend a Private Message to John BoelteDirect Link to This Post
Definetly interested in the mounts and headers!! Looks great!
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Report this Post03-18-2007 09:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for revinSend a Private Message to revinDirect Link to This Post
looks great!
except for the WFC headers

That is one crazy fuel rail! I like it!
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Report this Post03-18-2007 11:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for greengoblin0129Click Here to visit greengoblin0129's HomePageSend a Private Message to greengoblin0129Direct Link to This Post
Thats a very clean setup. Like how you did the mounts, that engine sets so much lower then mine does. Keep up the good work!

Ryan

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Report this Post03-18-2007 11:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MstangsBwareSend a Private Message to MstangsBwareDirect Link to This Post
Looks Good!!!

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Report this Post03-18-2007 03:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for darkhorizonSend a Private Message to darkhorizonDirect Link to This Post
I was just about to email you about updating your swap page at gmtuners.com.

looks good!

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Report this Post03-18-2007 05:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
That's some seriously nice work!
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Report this Post03-18-2007 07:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 86fieroEarlSend a Private Message to 86fieroEarlDirect Link to This Post
looks great, I also love the mounting system used, Looks very strong.
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Report this Post03-18-2007 07:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AquaHuskySend a Private Message to AquaHuskyDirect Link to This Post
Those are some of the best mounts I have seen yet. But, I haven't seen many. But still, those look like they will last under power. I also liked the dogbone mount. Very high quality look to it all.
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Report this Post03-18-2007 10:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Darth FieroClick Here to visit Darth Fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to Darth FieroDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the kind words everyone...

Concerning the mounts, I have thought about mass-producing them and do have some drawings for the brackets. But one of the toughest things I have run into concerns the sleeve the 84-87 Fiero cradle bushing (that's what I am using for the rubber mount bushing) presses into. I got lucky when I found some old seamless thick wall steam pipe at the metal surplus yard last time I went but I was only able to obtain minimal quantities -- enough to do a couple of swaps. I have been able to find some standard sized stainless tubing that would work but this would pretty much also require the rest of the mount bracket to be made out of stainless as well -- which would be quite costly. The only alternative would be to machine sleeves from a solid piece of mild steel rod but this is also expensive and time-consuming. So, unless I can find a source of medium or thick wall mild steel or chromoly tubing that can be machined to the dimensions I need for these bushings, then mass-producing them for an inexpensive price will be out of the question. But I will keep looking. For now, I will only be making these for in-house swaps as long as I can come by the materials or my swap customers are willing to pay for it (if the sleeves have to be machined from a solid piece of steel).

Concerning the sunbird tach/boost gauge mod, I have a few pictures taken of what I did on the electronics side to get it to work with a 6 cyl and I will get those posted to my website in the near future. Mechanically, the Fiero cluster's chassis will need to be trimmed in a few places in order for the sunbird tach/boost gauge to physically fit. But if you have a dremel tool or equiv, a soldering gun and the appropriate components/parts, it shouldn't take you but a couple of hours to make the modifications.

-ryan

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I had the privilege of seeing this fantastic 88 yesterday when I picked up the 2.8 that used to be in it. This is the most beautiful swap I’ve ever seen. It’s not flashy or over the top, just very functional and all business. It’s clean, orderly, & perfectly executed. Ryan, you are an artist! Reading about it and seeing the pictures just don’t do this justice. The owner told me that you did the swap. I didn’t know it was THIS car until I saw the Sunbird tach. (I now have the rest of the Sunbird cluster).

I’m still gathering part for the ECM conversion, so I may get the MEMCAL to you in a couple of weeks.

Again, my compliments to you Ryan on your skill and artistry.

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Nice Work...

It's a modest upgrade over a 2.8 but it's all low end torque and there's not much of an aftermarket for it. (j/k)

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Report this Post04-23-2007 11:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FIERO1985Send a Private Message to FIERO1985Direct Link to This Post
Whats up with that dog bone mount? and what alt bracket and alt are you using? info please!

Looks real nice!!!!


Dan

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Beautiful job! Your cradle looks perfect. How did you refinish it?
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Report this Post04-24-2007 08:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsDirect Link to This Post
Ryan,
A very professional looking conversion. Congrats. Someday, we'll get together and I'll talk you into doing a conversion for me. Haven't figured out what I want next but I'm sure you'll have something cooking. Excellent work.

Editted to add: Did you consider any other options for air intake. That is not intended as any sort of flame, just a question.
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Whats up with that dog bone mount? and what alt bracket and alt are you using? info please!

Looks real nice!!!!


Dan



The dog bone mount is something I fabricated out of aluminum plate that would bolt directly to a 99-up 3800 Series 2 factory alternator mount bracket (which I installed on this 98 engine). The alternator used in this swap came off this 98 engine and I fabbed up a custom bracket to low-mount it to the block.

 
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Beautiful job! Your cradle looks perfect. How did you refinish it?


The customer chose to have a local shop powdercoat it satin black.

 
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Ryan,
A very professional looking conversion. Congrats. Someday, we'll get together and I'll talk you into doing a conversion for me. Haven't figured out what I want next but I'm sure you'll have something cooking. Excellent work.

Editted to add: Did you consider any other options for air intake. That is not intended as any sort of flame, just a question.


Thanks for the props. Concerning the air induction, I have tried several different methods of air induction over the years including using 3" aluminum "CRX" tubing and even a ported factory 2.8 Fiero air cleaner box among other things. But this 3.5" ABS plastic ducting off a 99-up 4.3 Vortec pickup truck seems to flow and look the best. Two pieces of this ducting were needed to construct something that would work in the Fiero (had to cut them up and reassemble using included hardware) and they're not all that expensive. These ducts can be purchased at your local GM dealer under P/N: 25176891. Flows much more than a ported Fiero air cleaner can and it's not metal like the CRX induction tube which means it won't transfer as much heat from the engine compartment to the intake air.

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Darth Fiero:...unless I can find a source of medium or thick wall mild steel or chromoly tubing that can be machined to the dimensions I need for these bushings, ...
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That Subird Turbo gauge mod makes me want to go read the Skitime thread again
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oopps double post

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