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Beating a dead horse(GT replacement windows) by dcfox
Started on: 01-26-2008 06:27 PM
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Report this Post01-26-2008 06:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dcfoxSend a Private Message to dcfoxDirect Link to This Post
Ok...we all know that Ms. Lori's windows were as close to exact as we've seen.
We also all know that those windows are pretty much a myth at this time.

My question is...

Which "other" set is the best option?

We have the option of getting a set from www.fierowarehouse.com which run $200/pair shipped.

We also have the option of ordering a set from www.kahines.com which run $125-130/pair shipped(depending on whether you want clear or tinted).(I think these are the same units the Fiero Store sells)

Are there any other/better options out there?
Can anyone give me/us pros and/or cons of any of these products?
Pics would also be great.

I'm needing 2 sets(so far) and don't relish the fact of having to buy one of each,and return the inferior pair for a refund.

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Report this Post01-26-2008 06:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87_FieroGTSend a Private Message to 87_FieroGTDirect Link to This Post
I bought *modernman* 's off of Ebay. They are not perfect, but they look pretty convincing. I think they are very similar to Doug's at the Fiero Warehouse. I paid $200 for a set on my car. They are thinner than the OEM windows and don't have a smooth curve, it is sort of a slight bend. Also, the GT logo is slightly too far forward. That's it though.

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Report this Post01-26-2008 07:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dcfoxSend a Private Message to dcfoxDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the input.
I'm wanting a dark tinted set w/o GT logos so the location of the logo isn't important to me.

However...it may be for some,so I appreciate the info.

Anyone else?
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Report this Post01-26-2008 07:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofetishSend a Private Message to fierofetishDirect Link to This Post
Yes, me!! I bought some from kahines too , last year. As you know, I have only now got around to spraying the car, but I did trial 'fit' them. They are thinner, more flexible, not very curved from top to bottom, but the roll along the leading edge is excellent. No GT sticker or logo...fine by me.The tint is quite dark, which I like.I guess they will have to be attached using windscreen mastic, to make up for the lack of curve. All in all, I think they aren´t bad for the money, but obviously the originals are the best
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Report this Post01-26-2008 08:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dcfoxSend a Private Message to dcfoxDirect Link to This Post
Pretty dark tint huh?That's a plus for me.

So Nick...are you saying that your set from Kahines didn't come with any sort of adhesive strips to attach them?

Good info to know.Thanks.

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Report this Post01-26-2008 09:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
Mine came from Fiero Warehouse.
They are dark tinted and have the dot matrix around the edges. No GT emblem.
They come with the correct tape for mounting.

I'm quite satisfied with mine.

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Report this Post01-26-2008 10:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dcfoxSend a Private Message to dcfoxDirect Link to This Post
Thanks Raydar.

Do you happen to have any up close detailed pics of the windows installed?
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Originally posted by dcfox:

Thanks Raydar.

Do you happen to have any up close detailed pics of the windows installed?


Sorry. Nothing close up. Everything is from a distance.
I'll try to get some for you.

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Report this Post01-26-2008 10:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dcfoxSend a Private Message to dcfoxDirect Link to This Post
Thanks Raydar.
I'm hoping that this thread will help anyone needing replacement windows(myself included) to be able to weigh all the pros/cons of each different available set and be able to decide which set best suits them.
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Report this Post01-26-2008 10:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IMSA GTSend a Private Message to IMSA GTDirect Link to This Post
If you are interested in Ken Hines windows, he sells them tinted with no logos. You can often get them on his Ebay site for $99.00

Here is a pic with the Rodney Dickman GT logo installed.

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Report this Post01-26-2008 10:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dcfoxSend a Private Message to dcfoxDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the pic.
Those do look really nice.I'll have to keep an eye on eBay for a set at that price.

Curious...what's up with the section I circled?

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Report this Post01-26-2008 11:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
Here are some pics.
Actually, these were the most unflattering angles I could come up with.
This was just to illustrate how good Doug's windows are.
They would look even better if I had been more careful installing them.
You should also recognize that I don't have rain gutters. Rain gutters would have helped to disguise my crummy installation job.
I also haven't wiped them down since the World of Wheels.
There are probably ten million fingerprints and smudges.

If I was in need of another set, I wouldn't hesitate to buy them from Doug.



















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Report this Post01-27-2008 01:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for dcfoxSend a Private Message to dcfoxDirect Link to This Post
That does help a lot.
Those look great.Thanks for the pics.
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Originally posted by 87_FieroGT:

I bought *modernman* 's off of Ebay. They are not perfect, but they look pretty convincing. I think they are very similar to Doug's at the Fiero Warehouse. I paid $200 for a set on my car. They are thinner than the OEM windows and don't have a smooth curve, it is sort of a slight bend. Also, the GT logo is slightly too far forward. That's it though.

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I have the same, not perfect but still 100% better than my cracked originals

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Report this Post01-27-2008 10:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2farnorthSend a Private Message to 2farnorthDirect Link to This Post
I have the Fierowarehouse ones. To me they are a 100% better than most of the others. Most people don't realize that they aren't original unless they know what to look for. The dot matrix is good and looks so much better than the taped edge and hard corners painted on the others. I would under no circumstances use the ones that require rivets. Just saw a set of them yesterday and didn't like them at all. The rivets look out of place on the Fiero's smooth lines.

I will still buy some of Ms. Lori's when and if they finally become available.

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Originally posted by dcfox:

Thanks for the pic.
Those do look really nice.I'll have to keep an eye on eBay for a set at that price.

Curious...what's up with the section I circled?



That was an unfinished area where the IMSA kit blended with the roof panel. The fiberglass did not line up with the factory roof panel. It has since been smoothed out.

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Report this Post01-27-2008 01:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for dcfoxSend a Private Message to dcfoxDirect Link to This Post
Ok...I got a PM from Mike(Nosferatu187) that I thought could help everyone here.
He has a bunch of great info here...

 
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Hi dcfox,

I bought a set of tinted quarter windows from modernman on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...dZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

I paid $150 a pair + shipping, no regrets. I'm pretty picky about my Fiero, and was a bit worried about the quality of his windows. He shipped quickly and when they arrived, I was very surprised at how nice they looked. They have the dot matrix even had a roll of the correct 3M tape included. The only thing is, I've never seen him offer tinted windows without the GT logo. You might contact him to see if he has any available.

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Below is some info I sent to another member on this forum, might help you too:

I recently replaced the quarter windows on my '86 GT. I tried everything to remove the tape. The best way I found is to use a large model car paint brush to "paint" on Goof-Off. Then, cover that section of old tape with plastic (I used a piece of a plastic bag). Let it sit 5-10 minutes in the shade or inside a garage. Remove the plastic and use your finger to roll the old tape off. I did one small section at a time, didn't take too long to do.

If you are going to install new quarter windows with tape, first use some 3M Adhesion Promoter #051131-06396 on the body. It is recommended by 3M because it helps the tape bond to the Fiero body. O'Reilly's Auto sells it for $1.69ea:

http://www.oreillyauto.com/...nt=773¤tPage=0

You will need 2 packets, 1 per side. The tape is made by 3M #06450, white tape with a red backing. I put the tape on the body first, test fit & then installed the window. When I did the test fit, a little of the tape could be seen through the window around the lower rear corner. It appeared to have been trimmed there by the factory so I trimmed a little until it couldn't be seen.

Tape install pics:
http://img123.imageshack.us...windowinstallkj8.jpg

Pic of 1st one installed:
http://img252.imageshack.us...5/picture027bvw8.jpg

Don't know if you need all this info but sent it anyway, just in case.

Good luck,
Mike

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Report this Post01-27-2008 01:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Wow! I'm glad I kept my originals and the OEM ones from GM (although I don't know why?).

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Report this Post01-27-2008 02:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
Unless you have an otherwise 100% original car or you are doing a concourse restoration I think the reproductions I've seen are close enough. I have Doug's on my car and I am happy with them.

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Report this Post01-27-2008 08:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for smartaxelClick Here to visit smartaxel's HomePageSend a Private Message to smartaxelDirect Link to This Post
I use the Fierowarehouse ones. Been a good 5-6 years now, and they still look good. Added to it.. Doug's a really good business-owner. He's stood behind any product I bought from him (A while back, I bought a ton of stuff)..
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