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my new toy (UK) by Mandark
Started on: 05-09-2008 06:07 AM
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Report this Post05-09-2008 06:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MandarkSend a Private Message to MandarkDirect Link to This Post
Hi all, finally got my hands on a Fiero, just like to share it with you guys n gals. You don't really see many over here,
It was parked up a guys drive way for many years, managed to get him to part with it for Ģ1000.

It was a bit rough round the edges when i got it back in January, heres pics as is now

The engines a GM (vauxhall) 2.0 16v c20xe, more commonly known as the 'redtop'.












here's the engine bay before i got my hands on it...



And after...



This forum has been a great help over the past few months, as there isnt really a huge following in the UK, so this place has been my main source of info.

Comments welcome.

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Report this Post05-09-2008 06:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Chris HodsonSend a Private Message to Chris HodsonDirect Link to This Post
That is a bitchen car my friend. I love the dash and engine. Sweet.
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Report this Post05-09-2008 06:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TRiADSend a Private Message to TRiADDirect Link to This Post
WOW! That color is AWESOME!
I love the stance and the exhaust as well!

I wondered if anyone over there did RedTop swaps...NICE engine!

Any info on that dash?!

WOW!!!!

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Report this Post05-09-2008 06:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageSend a Private Message to ltlfrariDirect Link to This Post
Nice find on a sweet car.

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Report this Post05-09-2008 06:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero1FanClick Here to visit Fiero1Fan's HomePageSend a Private Message to Fiero1FanDirect Link to This Post
Really nice job on it. Now I just need to get you to come to the Fieros Europe II meet 25 - 27 July here in Germany and meet some of the other European Fiero Owners.
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Report this Post05-09-2008 07:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fierofreak00Send a Private Message to Fierofreak00Direct Link to This Post
The before and after of the engine is awesome. It really looks like it belongs in there! The cluster is really cool too, what did that come out of? -Jason
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Report this Post05-09-2008 07:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MandarkSend a Private Message to MandarkDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the comments! The dash came out of the same car as the as the engine. MK2 Vauxhall Astra GTE, It was originally a crappy yellow colour, There's a guy over here makes coloured films to your liking.

Although there are some large ???'s over the accuracy of the speedo and fuel gauge, but heck... it looks cool.

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Report this Post05-09-2008 08:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for CenTexIndySend a Private Message to CenTexIndyDirect Link to This Post
I LOVE that color!

And the engine....just...wow.

Thanks for sharing!!!
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I love it!
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Report this Post05-09-2008 11:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for savejonasSend a Private Message to savejonasDirect Link to This Post
Do you have any pics of the rebuild process? That really looks sharp!
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Report this Post05-09-2008 11:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MisterSend a Private Message to MisterDirect Link to This Post
Jolly good show(car) mate

The engine bay looks SHARP. very nice

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Originally posted by Mandark:

Hi all, finally got my hands on a Fiero, just like to share it with you guys n gals. You don't really see many over here,
It was parked up a guys drive way for many years, managed to get him to part with it for Ģ1000.

It was a bit rough round the edges when i got it back in January, heres pics as is now

The engines a GM (vauxhall) 2.0 16v c20xe, more commonly known as the 'redtop'.





Where did the gauges come from? Me wants!








here's the engine bay before i got my hands on it...



And after...



This forum has been a great help over the past few months, as there isnt really a huge following in the UK, so this place has been my main source of info.

Comments welcome.



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Report this Post05-09-2008 12:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MandarkSend a Private Message to MandarkDirect Link to This Post
Wow, so many cool comments, we have rather a small fiero forum in the UK, with about as many members as replies to this post.

There's loads of these digi dashes on ebay.co.uk, just search 'astra digi dash' or similar.

Unfortunately, I was a bit sporadic with the picture taking, I'll try picking out some more tomorrow and post them up.


Any one else on this forum with a Redtop conversion?
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Report this Post05-09-2008 03:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
Very fine looking set of wheels that you've got there. How do you like the performance of the 2.0 Liter Vauxhall engine? Thats a bit small by American standards but if its similar to the perfornace of the supecharged GM Ecotec then its probably very responsive. I also wonder how hard it was to swap that engine into a Fiero.

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Wow... that's a great car - love the dash & the engine swap is very cool (and very unique from what I've seen).

What are the stock performance specs on the engine anyway?

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Very nice! I'll be visiting my Daughter late June in Northwich Cheshire, I'll do some Fiero spotting while I'm there. Took her Father-in-law for a 0-60 blast in mine when they visited here last summer, he says there aren't many there, all private imports. GM didn't officially import any new.

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Report this Post05-09-2008 04:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Torch-Red87Click Here to visit Torch-Red87's HomePageSend a Private Message to Torch-Red87Direct Link to This Post
I think I know this from somewhere of an old german metting , back in the days .............


middle section

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Report this Post05-09-2008 06:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Loops87GTSend a Private Message to Loops87GTDirect Link to This Post
wow..its official...thats is my favorite notchie ive seen yet. Awesome car man
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Report this Post05-09-2008 06:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NewbfieroSend a Private Message to NewbfieroDirect Link to This Post
Nice Fiero love evrything about it ..You did a fine job to clean the motor all up ..look great ..Welcome to the Forum
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Report this Post05-09-2008 06:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for randyeClick Here to visit randye's HomePageSend a Private Message to randyeDirect Link to This Post
THAT
is SPECTACULAR!

Clean lines, plus professional looking and tastefully done.
Engine looks to have been immaculately done as well.

Congratulations on a very nicely done Fiero!

From Birmingham to Berlin, you "across the ponders" certainly have knack for good looking Fieros!
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Report this Post05-09-2008 07:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kevinSend a Private Message to kevinDirect Link to This Post
EXCELENT!!

So difficult to say anything remotley discouraging about your Fiero. A motamorphasis of the highest degree. Now some questions can begin: Tell us where the two covered spooled wires connect to, in the truck area? How many miles on the car? Was the past owner a service man? What is the history of the car--as you know it? What are/is the tire size(s)? Are there any other upgrades like suspension,clutch etc., we should know about? Contact Yellow in Germany. He would be a valuable resource. Keep us informed.

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Report this Post05-10-2008 06:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MandarkSend a Private Message to MandarkDirect Link to This Post
Torch-Red87- , That picture is amazing, (I actually said 'holy sh*t' when i saw it) Did you take that Photo? When was it taken? This ties in with what the previous owner was telling me about engine swap been done in Germany, Ive just looked at the export document, and it looks like it was brought to UK in 1998 by either Marko Fabian or Harry Gerhard Fabian from Bad Munstereifel, Euskirchen. (possibly the owner at the time of your photo)

Look at all the expanding foam they used in the trunk, It took me hours to remove all that! Have you any more Pictures?

Those spooled wires run to the relocated battery in the trunk. The brakes/suspension are stock except the lowered springs, with 16'' rims, 205/50/16's on the front. 225/50/16's on the rear. Gearbox is the F20 which is Astra also, I believe the Fiero driveshafts mated perfectly. (good old GM)

The supposed stock HP for these early redtops is 156hp, It feels quick and responsive, But then its the first Fiero ive driven, so nothing to compare it to.

I'll try get some more pics up later today.

C

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Report this Post05-10-2008 12:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Nice engine, wheels, and uniquely detailed; I like that. Those Borbets wheels match the car too and I sold a set of Borbet 15s to Songman years ago and kept the Borbet 17x7.5.

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Originally posted by Mandark:

Torch-Red87- , That picture is amazing, (I actually said 'holy sh*t' when i saw it) Did you take that Photo? When was it taken? This ties in with what the previous owner was telling me about engine swap been done in Germany, Ive just looked at the export document, and it looks like it was brought to UK in 1998 by either Marko Fabian or Harry Gerhard Fabian from Bad Munstereifel, Euskirchen. (possibly the owner at the time of your photo)

Look at all the expanding foam they used in the trunk, It took me hours to remove all that! Have you any more Pictures?

Those spooled wires run to the relocated battery in the trunk. The brakes/suspension are stock except the lowered springs, with 16'' rims, 205/50/16's on the front. 225/50/16's on the rear. Gearbox is the F20 which is Astra also, I believe the Fiero driveshafts mated perfectly. (good old GM)
The supposed stock BHP for these early redtops is 156bhp, It feels quick and responsive, But then its the first Fiero ive driven, so nothing to compare it to.

I'll try get some more pics up later today.

C




Yes i took that pic ,
back in the days maybe around 1995-1997 at an CS meeting in Augsburg done bye Charles Shepherd CS Fiero Shop thoose good old days at german Fiero meetings .
Was allways a great time back then .
Well more pics of it i will see if i have maybe i got one but i can post you the big pic via mail if you send me your email add. .
So PM me .
Or i will post it here on PFF .
So hope you like your exotic Fiero !!!!. Its the only one ! .

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Ok i looked in my archive didnīt found any new ! .

But got you bigger one !

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Report this Post05-10-2008 05:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MinnGreenGTClick Here to visit MinnGreenGT's HomePageSend a Private Message to MinnGreenGTDirect Link to This Post
Mandark ~ any details on how the dash interfaces? I was browsing ebay.co.uk (saw this one) ~ and was curious if you knew anything about the install process/wiring?
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Is that a GT bumper molded to the bottom in thw front?

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Report this Post05-12-2008 06:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MandarkSend a Private Message to MandarkDirect Link to This Post
Torch-Red87- Thanks for the picture and info! Please got in touch if you find any more I wonder if i could get in touch with Charles Shepherd, Anybody know if he uses this forum?

None of the gauges worked when i first got it, This is what i was greeted with after removing the pod/cowling-


and after...


This picture would help anyone interested in using these digi gauges, (the wires to the left of the connector blocks are from the digi dash, right are Fiero). Unfortunately there are 2 looms that come from the dash, but I only took a picture of this 1.


There is loads of information about these gauges and their wiring on this vauxhall forum 'www.migweb.co.uk' search 'digi' or 'digital'. The only problem I can see is the speedo transponder, whether you could link the transponder to the speedo cable? accuracy will be an issue though. This wasn't an issue for me as i had the correct gearbox/speedo drive


Madcurl- did you actually have those Borbet's on your car like in your picture? those 17's look seriously cool.

Crazy Fiero Kid- The front bumper is a standard 87 coupe bumper, I think it looks different because I had the idea of leaving the 'mouth' white. Its blue now though.


Iam really regretting not taking more pictures, here's one of the interior on first arrival. (sorry about the poor quality)


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