What to do when you want the style of a Lamborghini without the obscene payment? Seek refuge in GM's stunted program of 1980s awesomeness, the Fiero, that's what. Armed with time and skill, a steel fabricator from Canada named Woody has done an incredible job transforming a $60 mid-engined Pontiac wedge into an amazing homage to the Reventon. Obviously talented, the finished Woodighini is going to be incredible, Woody's done a fine job of transferring the Reventon's proportions to the Fiero's chassis.
When you're rocking Sant'Agata styling, you can't make do with an Iron Puke or even the L44 V6. Woody's tucking a hotted-up GM small-block under the engine hatch, fed pressurized atmosphere by a pair of turbos. The blow-through carburetor is a bit too stone age for our tastes, but we're sure it's not going to stand in the way of this car being a wheeled rocket. Flat out amazing work, and it's likely to have the same amount of attention lavished on it by passerby as a real Lamborghini gets; it's sure had as much extreme care in its crafting as anything wearing the Bull.
Wow! I'm hugely impressed - mostly because of his talent as a metalworker! Dang!
Part of me almost wishes that he's set out to create something even a little more creative - or unique. Not that what he's done isn't tremendously impressive... but to make something that won't later be looked at as a knock-off would've taken it up another notch! Don't get me wrong - I dig replicars (always wanted a F355 or 512TR), but he's got way more skills than what it takes to duplicate something!
So... anyone have contact info for him? It'd be great to see & hear from him here on PFF!
Wow! I'm hugely impressed - mostly because of his talent as a metalworker! Dang!
Part of me almost wishes that he's set out to create something even a little more creative - or unique. Not that what he's done isn't tremendously impressive... but to make something that won't later be looked at as a knock-off would've taken it up another notch!, but he's got way more skills than what it takes to duplicate something!
I agree. This guy has "skills" and imagination, but his mind hit a speed bump in the duplication process and IMO should gone a different route. I like his windsheild forward, raked and sloped front nose, and the twin turbo hook-up. http://www.autoblog.com/photos/woodighini/955734/
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Cheever3000 Member
Posts: 12400 From: The Man from Tallahassee Registered: Aug 2001
if that is all metal like it looks, that thing must weigh a lot! for a fiero.
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Good craftsman for certain, but, in terms of style, it doesn't flow. There are too many hard angles. What he likely cannot do is build a mold to press the metal into flowing shapes.
This is the problem with sheet metal fabrication. It looks like it will weigh like a Bricklin and we should remember just how heavy they were.
I think I'd be creating a mold for fiberglass and getting some curves and some more flow to the air stream. Just my uneducated observation, and like I said, he is very clearly a talented sheet metal guy so kudos to him
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Oneredfiero Member
Posts: 999 From: Lethbridge Alberta Canada Registered: Mar 2002
[I'd say he pretty much nailed it. Wonder what he's gonna do for lights and windows. I wonder what he used for the windshield?
Viewing the real car and the knock-off IMO I'd say no, "No he didn't "nail it." Maybe to the unknowing public, but to any car buff... no. This is one the inherited problems with all replicas. You either "nail-it" on the exterior and fail with the interior and/or "nail-it" on the exterior/interior they fail with the 2.8 engine with a plastic Lamborghini cover for you can't have all three elements.
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TXGOOD Member
Posts: 5410 From: Austin, Texas Registered: Feb 2006
I think it looks pretty good, and if he`s not entering it into any Lamborghini shows I don`t see that it matters that it doesn`t replicate it to a T. A lot of true car buffs will appreciate the manhours that it took to do all of that work, that they know from experience, it takes where the general public has no clue.
Viewing the real car and the knock-off IMO I'd say no, "No he didn't "nail it."
Ouch! I don't know if I am worthy enough to classify myself as "car buff" since I don't have any chop-tops, but this guy put a lot of time and a lot of fabrication hours to turn this out. Does it match the Reventon exactly....no. Is it close enough to fool people......yes. I give Kudos to the guy for the time he spent and the craftsmanship he put into it. From a "car buff", I say good job, it looks great.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Ouch! I don't know if I am worthy enough to classify myself as "car buff" since I don't have any chop-tops, but this guy put a lot of time and a lot of fabrication hours to turn this out. Does it match the Reventon exactly....no. Is it close enough to fool people......yes. I give Kudos to the guy for the time he spent and the craftsmanship he put into it. From a "car buff", I say good job, it looks great.
As I stated, the guy did a great job and lots of hours spent on the build and so far.... nice job, but there's a whole lot of work left to do. It's all in the details.
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As you can see, even the lower lip of the nose is missing (maybe he hasn't started on it?) but any car buff would spot that right away. Granted, the Fighter jet gauges would be almost next to impossible to copy 100% and for that matter the wheels thus you'll spend $$$.
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As I stated, the guy did a great job and lots of hours spent on the build and so far.... nice job, but there's a whole lot of work left to do. It's all in the details.
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As you can see, even the lower lip of the nose is missing (maybe he hasn't started on it?) but any car buff would spot that right away. Granted, the Fighter jet gauges would be almost next to impossible to copy 100% and for that matter the wheels thus you'll spend $$$.
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Aug 5th, 2008
R Runner Member
Posts: 3695 From: Scottsville, KY Registered: Feb 2003
That Lambo is insane. I can't imagine the time he's put into that so far. I would like to see someone do a rebody of the Caddy XLR. Those are a little less impressive but i'm sure it could be turned into a kit. If i knew how to do that stuff i'd make one of my own.
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ryan.hess Member
Posts: 20784 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Dec 2002
Bravo! The Reventon hasn't been out all that long and he has nearly nailed it. If you saw it on the road completed you would be lucky to not piss down your leg. Admit it. It's cool.
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Austrian Import Member
Posts: 3919 From: Monterey, CA Registered: Feb 2007
Bravo! The Reventon hasn't been out all that long and he has nearly nailed it. If you saw it on the road completed you would be lucky to not piss down your leg. Admit it. It's cool.
And it's not like they're easy to get to make a mold from. There are only 20 or so cars made TOTAL, at a cost of nearly $1mil, IIRC.
So if he did this from memory, and or drawings/photographs/(maybe models, I'm not familiar if there were ever any made.) this is awesome. Especially if he ADAPTED it to a fiero frame and kept the proportions correct. (without stretching it.)
I personally love the cab-forward look of mid engined cars. Always wished the Fiero had it. I guess that look is more appreciated in Europe, than the States though. I've been told that American consumers prefer the "3-box shape". Long hood-cap-fastback-short trunk.
Wow! The workmanship looks great. That must have taken a very long time to do.
I like that the angles are sharper, more ridgid looking then the original. Looks like its not only fast but it could punch through a brick wall and drive away unscathed.
I like the dial gauges better also. Seems more fitting of a car. I hope I get to see it completed...
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Finally_Mine_86_GT Member
Posts: 4809 From: Hyde Park, New York Registered: Sep 2006
i've been debating on trying to build a cien body replica but i think it would cost too much to make the mold, unless you know somebody who can get block foam cheap? and i don't think it would look as pretty but it's worth a shot.
Edit: my $.02, i believe with very little restyling they could just call the Cien the new fiero.
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Aug 6th, 2008
PaulJK Member
Posts: 6638 From: Los Angeles Registered: Oct 2001
.... a $60 mid-engined Pontiac wedge into an amazing homage to the Reventon. Obviously talented ...
Somebody can't see the obvious. This guy did NOT transform anything into a homage to a lambo; he took a piece of junk, put a LOT of work and money into it and now has a nice looking piece of junk. After he's done with the body work, he'll probably start doing the interior, run into wiring problems and THEN find out why the fiero he started with was worth $60. Later on, he'll likely have a car with worn out suspension, bad brakes, and probably a slew of wierd problems like phantom wipers, black death, bad bushings, bad engine, dried out connections and bad grounds, rust, dry-rotted seals, sagging door hinges, etc., etc., etc.
I'll bet this car NEVER sees many miles on the road even if it gets finsihed.
Anybody who starts a project with a $60 fiero is simply a fool.
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joshh44 Member
Posts: 2166 From: Nanaimo, B.C, Canada Registered: Aug 2007
Anybody who starts a project with a $60 fiero is simply a fool.
I doubt it was actually a $60 fiero, I think it was just another jab by the blog. "Iron puke", "GM's stunted program of 1980s awesomeness", "$60 mid-engined Pontiac wedge".
Besides, if he's already making an entire new body and putting in a new engine, don't you think he'd update the suspension while he had the entire car apart, and update the electrics when he ran new lights?
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
i've been debating on trying to build a cien body replica but i think it would cost too much to make the mold, unless you know somebody who can get block foam cheap? and i don't think it would look as pretty but it's worth a shot.
Edit: my $.02, i believe with very little restyling they could just call the Cien the new fiero.
I agree. I too pondered long and hard regarding the Cien for all of the various parts needed to make a Cien are here (or close enough) to build upon. The Cien is one of favorite concept cars ever built.
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kwagner Member
Posts: 4258 From: Pittsburgh, PA Registered: Apr 2005
Wouldn't having a cien replica go against your "use your imagination" philosophy?
Yes, it would flow against my philosophy of not "using your own imagination," but in this case, the Cien isn't a production car; thus a true replica. That said, the Cien placed "last' on my list for there's a vast amount of untapped imagination using the Fiero's current DNA without badging the car as a replica Ferarri or Lamborghini. I have one more tweak to perform on #015, but it will no doubt flow using the Fiero's DNA.
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RUNDLC Member
Posts: 802 From: Elk Grove, California Registered: Jul 2005
I would think that the guy is smarter than some give credit. So he bought the thing for basically nothing. All you need to do is change all the suspension, brakes, redo any wiring, engine etc. This is no different from what Archie is doing to all the fieros he has in shop! You guys are a tough crowd.
I will bet that under that skin he has redone or at least added a very nice sub-frame system to this car, how else will it handle a TT small block chevy? I would like to see what most fiero v8's have done to make the chassis any stronger to handle all the power put into them.
This guy has done a wonderful job on the car and I would suspect that the lines will be a little softer when all the body work has been skimmed with filler.
I say it will be finished and will look awesome when complete.
RUNDLC
And BTW that Caddy is BAD!!
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