First off, If I offend anyone on this forum that works for Fedex or USPS, just kiss my ass.
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I sent my wife's VR6 ecm to C2 Motorsports a few weeks ago to do some fine tuning to the already dozens of hours invested in the tune/deletes. I really should play the lottery at this point. The ecm was supposed to go to Connecticut (a one day Fedex ground from NJ). Well a week later Fedex found it in Indiana. Then it was shipped to Connecticut.
After C2 did the final mods I requested, they shipped it back USPS Priority with a tracking number. What are the odds that the ecm gets lost a second time????? I really should go play the lottery. Not only did those government paid lazy ass lairs claim they tried to deliver the ecm on Saturday, but my shop was closed.....I think not. I was at my shop at 5am until 4pm working on Sabooo's car. I was there all day. The bay doors were open. Then they claimed that they left a delivery notice on my door. WTF????
So, we went to the post office today to pick it up. They sent us to the other post office on the other side of town. Neither of them cared to look for it. They claimed that the other place had it, but wouldn't check the tracking number. Seriously, how stupid could you possibly be to lose a box with a tracking number that was in your hands that you never delivered. This is probably because I didn't give the mail carrier a few bucks at Christmas.
This is a one of a f**king kind of computer set to work with the Fiero electronics and Volkswagen engine. Get off your lazy ass and find the thing!
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ok, I don't lose my cool often, but when I do....Watch out!
Dave

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1987 GT (my toy-see above), 1987 GT 3800s/c, 1986 SE with a VW VR6, certified master technician/shop owner
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I hate the post office's some times really just mess things up for us guys that are looking for parts to come in!!

I had a similar experience a while back. I ordered a variable voltage regulator circuit on ebay from Taiwan. USPS left a card in my mailbox that said I'd have to come in to sign for the package. Day two: waited over 45 minutes and the clerk told me that they could not find the package. Day three, Came back. this time I waited for an hour and they finally found the box! It took three postal employess 1 hourd to find the box!!! In recent years with all this affirmative action bullcrap, the USPS has started hiring people with inferior intelligence. The result is that the USPS is losing millions these days, the service is going downhill and we pay the price. . Its the height of government incompetance..and they want to take charge of our health care?
To cut costs, not pay benefits or a livable salary Fed X is hiring all independent contractors that own their own trucks. Some of these guys barely qualify as human, many are dirty, filthy and hardly speak English. Next time you see a Fed X truck just know that it is not FedX employee in it but a gypsy driver.
Now my experience just proves a point but doesn't help you one bit. If you are talking about a GM PCM, we have the software and programs here that can help you but the VR6 PCM is a special animal. I would guess that the performance Volkswagon crowd can help. The good news is that once a program is written and saved it can be reloaded and flashed to a new PCM. The guy that wrote it must have a copy of the code in that program and in the worse case I guess its start all over again.
Your PCM must be somewhere in Lakewood under a postal counter or on a shelf with 200 other packages.. Chances are it will eventually turn up but meanwhile have my sympathies for the crap that you are having to endure.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

USPS is supposed to gaurantee premium shipping options. Ask for a refund.

http://faq.usps.com/eCustom...51b6-000000000000%7D

Back on holiday is going to say it. go ups

That sucks you had that kind of trouble. I've luckily never had those kinds of problems when getting things shipped. I do know why things end up broken when being shipped though. I work for a shipping company and found that the bosses want everything unloaded from the trailers just as fast as possible; and don't say a thing when a boxes fall from a height or a 60 lb box lands on a fragile box.

Its funny though i have never known fedex to screw up like that. i use them all the time i have used uspa 2 times and they screwed up both times some how.

The ecm new from VW is $1000, the last time I rpiced it out. I can probably get one used for a few hundred bucks and reflash it to match my VR6 coding. After that, the immobilizer will need to be removed...which most tuning companies will not do for the VR6. I'm a GIAC dealer and GIAC wouldn't delete the immobilizer for me. I had to send it to a guy who did it for a cash deal. Then I bench flashed it with GIAC software. The latest was I wanted my misfire diagnosis reinstalled into the ecm as well as the secondary air, evap and cat deleted. I also wanted C2 to play around with the tune to give it some more low end spunk..possibly use the variable intake on the longer runners a bit higher. The ecm needed the SRS system and traction control CAN data lines removed. The fuel pump relay is the only thing left to do. It has to be resimulated to make the ecm believe it is still there controlling the fuel pump. I wound up using an oil pressure/starter switch to power the fuel pump and it seems to be doing a great job thus far.
So needless to say that a lot of time, energy and preparation went into that ecm. I originally planned on making a backup...just in case, but I wanted to wait for a good deal on a ecm. I have a habit of scoring great deals all my life. I just recently picked up some goodies for my 3800s/c at an amazing price.....so Dennis, I may give you some competition come race day.
Dave

ever think about calling them and telling them it's worth and the fact that you NEED it back or they just bought your one off car? Once they hear anything about a "lawyer" and "cost of loss" they start to get their gears running. I've had this problem with the post office and ups. They really don't like having to pay anything out. Just a thought.

quote Originally posted by sricka01: USPS is supposed to gaurantee premium shipping options. Ask for a refund. http://faq.usps.com/eCustom...51b6-000000000000%7D

Understand a couple of things. The only thing the USPS is liable for the the cost of the shipping, unless you state a value and pay for additional insurance. Then there is the waiting period (although I can't remember off the top of my head what that time frame is for USPS) for the missing package to be found and the claim to be filed. At least with the USPS you can send a package to a specific person and only that person. FedEx does not do that as I dscovered when they lost my Rolex that I sent in for repair.

FedEx will allow you to ship only to an address. Any person at that address can be the signer and they (FedEx) consider their contract and obligation met. I went around and around with them on that very point. I insured my package but they delivered it to an office building and the person who signed for it was nowhere to be found. Since the package was delivered and signed for they were off the hook. I got an attorney involved and it did me absolutely no good. Their offer was to refund the delivery charge and I have extremely rarely used them since.

Want to add insult to injury? Guess who FedEx uses for deliveries they can't complete? The U.S. Postal Service, they have done that since their marketing agreement started about 6 years ago. Ever wonder why there are now FedEx drop boxes (a non-governmental agency) on Federal property? A marketing agreement.

Sorry for you loss, I hope you were insured, at least that "might" take some of the sting out of it.

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quote Originally posted by bmwguru: The ecm new from VW is $1000, the last time I rpiced it out. I can probably get one used for a few hundred bucks and reflash it to match my VR6 coding. After that, the immobilizer will need to be removed...which most tuning companies will not do for the VR6. I'm a GIAC dealer and GIAC wouldn't delete the immobilizer for me. I had to send it to a guy who did it for a cash deal. Then I bench flashed it with GIAC software. The latest was I wanted my misfire diagnosis reinstalled into the ecm as well as the secondary air, evap and cat deleted. I also wanted C2 to play around with the tune to give it some more low end spunk..possibly use the variable intake on the longer runners a bit higher. The ecm needed the SRS system and traction control CAN data lines removed. The fuel pump relay is the only thing left to do. It has to be resimulated to make the ecm believe it is still there controlling the fuel pump. I wound up using an oil pressure/starter switch to power the fuel pump and it seems to be doing a great job thus far. So needless to say that a lot of time, energy and preparation went into that ecm. I originally planned on making a backup...just in case, but I wanted to wait for a good deal on a ecm. I have a habit of scoring great deals all my life. I just recently picked up some goodies for my 3800s/c at an amazing price.....so Dennis, I may give you some competition come race day. Dave

WOW. This episode sounds really aweful. I hope that those as*holes find your PCM. You should know shortly. Actually most PCMs cost big bucks new but the GM ones can be found for $50-$75 used. I guess VR6 parts are a totally different ballgame. I hope that there is no need for you to start over as it sounds like an involved process to program those VW computers.
As for race day; I fully expect a professional auto mechanic like yourself to be very competitive so we can title this race "the pro against the bro"!..... or maybe Anonymity will surprise us and blow our doors off. On the track anything can happen. In closing I hope that this has a happy ending. I know how much work you put into that VR6 Fiero and if they don't come through Anonymity will be very sad or very angry or maybe both. !!!!

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: Back on holiday is going to say it. go ups

Still the best option around, like dennis said... the fedex ground guys are indepentant contractors, and some of them are worse than garbage. I never had a problem with USPS service here, but there are SOME post offices I WONT drop my mail off at. Fierogirls-Mom works as a rural delivery person (usps) in NJ, not that she could help you though.

LMK if you want your own UPS account I can get someone to call you.
Andrew

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: Back on holiday is going to say it. go ups

Beware of UPS...they tend to be VERY rough with boxes!
They may get your stuff to you but HOW it arrives is another ball of wax.

Kit

Dave - I share your pain but that's the funniest thing I've read tonight. Best wishes for a speedy resolution to all of it, and thanks for spending your weekend working on my car.

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I have never had a problem with shipping. At least to that magnitude. I do hate the USPS tracking. It is never updated. Their system is useless to me. I have written them many times. They tell me I can get a better form of tracking for more money.

Heck, if their tracking system doesn't work. Why do they use it at all?

Secondly, why should I pay more for "premium tracking" that works when default UPS tracking works fine?

They say they want to manage a multi-trillion dollar healthcare system? I wouldn't let them balance my checkbook.

Our government is a hair shy of useless.

****Sorry for the political rant

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I feel your pain, Dave. When I had my mini-truck I ordered a set of billet wheels for it a couple of months before a big show. They had to be made for the size and style that I wanted. Well, one day they showed up via UPS.....ok, three of them showed up. Got online to track the last one. It took another week for me to get it. We tracked it from CA to TN to OH to somewhere in KY, then TN again and finally to me here at the correct place in KY.

Dang, don't know what to say. That SUCKS!

Ron

quote Originally posted by sjmaye: I do hate the USPS tracking. It is never updated. Their system is useless to me. I have written them many times. They tell me I can get a better form of tracking for more money. Heck, if their tracking system doesn't work. Why do they use it at all? Secondly, why should I pay more for "premium tracking" that works when default UPS tracking works fine?

Because it's not "tracking". It's "Delivery Confirmation". All it does...and all it was designed to do...is to verify that a package was delivered to it's final destination. It's not designed to give you a step by step progress report as to where your package is at any given time. I'm not aware of any "premium tracking", unless they're referring to sending it as a registered package...and even that won't tell you step by step where it's at.

Dave. Todays the day. Go down to the post office and request to see the postmaster. Don't be afraid to tell him that they have a very valuable computer of yours somewhere in their building. If they put enough people on the search, chances are that they will find it.
I hate to say it but the boys in brown are still the most reliable shipping service albeit the most expensive. They also insure for a reasonable amount and use all their own drivers. Good luck. I know how much that Fiero and project means to you.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

I've had to refuse to accept two ups shipments. The seller didn't do the best job of packaging in either case, but both packages looked as though they had been thrown and dropped several times. I would never send anything with ups if it was fragile in any way at all. The boxes I received were beat up and torn beyond belief. They should have been embarrassed to deliver either package.

I don't think I'll be going anywhere today. I just did a head count and we have 23 cars sitting outside my shop for repairs and it is just the two of us.
Dave

dave , i hope you set him straight on who the guru is so theres no problem in the future ...also maybe some cookies would help .
i got better service right off the bat from my regular ups driver (after a few mcdonalds gift certificates)
i hate em all ,i run a business from my home and literally have had 2000 packages come and go and i still have problems with them saying its delivered,and then when they retrace their footsteps they realize it went to the wrong address...not my house and i have a piece of crap neighbor that keeps the deliveries because his interests are similar (being we have deliveries regular from speed suppliers) and says he hasnt seen them (his address is similar to mine too ),..i want to put a dye pack in a box and send it to him.
but because of the claims the temp drivers wont leave packages at my house sometimes if they require a sig (so i have to go to the ups warehouse after hours to retrieve them (twenty mile away i might add ) if my driver is not there

one night i slipped in the back looking for my usual contact in time to see all the trucks backed in and the drivers( throwing )the packages ..overhanded ,underhanded and like they are hiking a football, most completley missing the conveyor and bouncing down in a hole below (yes some of them marked fragile)...i threw up a little in my mouth being i was worried about an item considered fragile )
i was horrified at what i saw , and ive been jerked around for months on claims sometimes because these idiots dont care and i have to buy the items again and hope my customers understand why it takes so long, it appears to me since fuel went up they were overloading the trucks too ,the packages are getting worse and worse looking,i have been screwed by them all and recently too.....

i feel your pain brother

rob

quote Originally posted by Kitskaboodle: Beware of UPS...they tend to be VERY rough with boxes! They may get your stuff to you but HOW it arrives is another ball of wax. Kit

Having been in the cargo industry for years, I can say UPS is probably the worst for damage. Their ground services are also painfully slow.

I recently had something shipped to me via UPS - left Florida, made it's way to Toronto Canada, then back down into the US to the mid-west and then out to the West coast, then back to the mid-West, up into Vancouver Canada and then to me - and this was suppose to be overnight priority shipping.

I will have to see if I still have the tracking number so everyone can see this.

quote Originally posted by bmwguru: Just an update.....the local post office located my package. We will have to pick it up, but at least it looks good for having the car back on the road today. I spoke with the regular postal carrier and he was on vacation for the past week. The package was addressed to me and not my shop. The temporary carrier didn't know who the Guru is...lol Dave

Good news and happy ending- we hope. Sounds like it was a nerve racking experience.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE COLUSSUS"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "