i just spun a rod bearing getting on the free way. Here is a video. enjoy . 3.4 swap coming by the weekend :




The first engine is way worse.

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How do you keep blowing up these cars?

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: How do you keep blowing up these cars?

i dont know.

Wow, talk about luck. 2.8's are one thing, but if you spin a bearing in a 3.4 i think you should quit with those engines. 3.4's have a lot better oiling system.

quote Originally posted by mattwa: Wow, talk about luck. 2.8's are one thing, but if you spin a bearing in a 3.4 i think you should quit with those engines. 3.4's have a lot better oiling system.

its going to be a 3.4 pushrod. what year camero will work for the engine??

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: its going to be a 3.4 pushrod. what year camero will work for the engine??

i know, im swapping one in right now 1993-1995 is years you want.

How the hell did you do that? It ran perfect last week.

o.O You must floor it everywhere. lol

i blew it getting on the freeway. mattawa. did you buy rodneys jig for the starter?

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: ...Can a 3400 swap be done quickly and cheaply? im on a danm tight budget. 450 all said and done...

Not a chance in hell. AT LEAST $1000, and that's if you've done it before, know the ins and outs, and find the engine CHEAP or free.

tried this site yet?

http://www.car-parts.com/

You can search junkyards in your area, see their prices, etc. Comes in handy for all kinds of parts, not just engines. In your area, the 3.4's seem to range from $450 to $750.

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will a 3.4 firebird engine work?

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: How do you keep blowing up these cars?

Used to happen to me all the time. Everyone. Problem is the burned oil gunk that builds up on the lifter gully that is to allow the oil to flow back down to the pan. These gullys get gunked up and it messes with the oil flow. Every one I've taken apart has had this hard gunk blocking the oil flow.

quote Originally posted by Seanpaul: Used to happen to me all the time. Everyone. Problem is the burned oil gunk that builds up on the lifter gully that is to allow the oil to flow back down to the pan. These gullys get gunked up and it messes with the oil flow. Every one I've taken apart has had this hard gunk blocking the oil flow.

mine are 100% user error.

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: will a 3.4 firebird engine work?

Yes, I am running a 95 Firebird 3.4, I blew up two Camarro 3.4s and the Firebird one is holding great with the turbo.

quote Originally posted by F355spider: Yes, I am running a 95 Firebird 3.4, I blew up two Camarro 3.4s and the Firebird one is holding great with the turbo.

sweet! what year bird will work?

personally i wouldnt get a 3.4 they tend to blow easy i blew one in the impala (but thats an impala) before i got my fiero but im not complaining i got a fiero

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quote Originally posted by 2m4dude: personally i wouldnt get a 3.4 they tend to blow easy i blew one in the impala (but thats an impala) before i got my fiero but im not complaining i got a fiero

your talking to a guy who killed a cummins. i know a engine will blow if its pushed hard enough. lesson learned. dont rev a fiero past 6500.

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: your talking to a guy who killed a cummins. i know a engine will blow if its pushed hard enough. lesson learned. dont rev a fiero past 6500.

how'd you kill a CUMMINS?!?!?!?!? is that even possible?

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: your talking to a guy who killed a cummins. i know a engine will blow if its pushed hard enough. lesson learned. dont rev a fiero past 6500.

A Fiero 2.8 redlines at 6000.
Where did you get the 6500 rpm figure from? The Fast And the Furious?

No wonder you keep blowing engines.
Put the keys down and back away slowly. When you learn how to read gauges and what the little red lines mean, you might be allowed to drive again.

quote Originally posted by cooguyfish: how'd you kill a CUMMINS?!?!?!?!? is that even possible?

Probably by revving it to 6500 rpm.

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OK, anatuzzi I order you to tailor all of your Fieros to my house for safe keeping! We are supposed to be restoring and saving these cars. NOT BLOWING THEM UP!!!

I will be doing a 3800SC fiero swap here in a few weeks for less than $500.

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: mine are 100% user error.

Define user error?
I can hold at redline my LS2 GTO and not spin a barring.

If a sports car handle high RPM's then that is the most stupid engine design ever!

quote Originally posted by Seanpaul: Define user error? I can hold at redline my LS2 GTO and not spin a barring. If a sports car handle high RPM's then that is the most stupid engine design ever!

we are talking about 2.8's here. If you even think about high RPM's it spins a bearing.

I thought you had your heart set on installing a Caddy 575 V8.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/075172.html

Or are you just an "idea man"

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quote Originally posted by Seanpaul: Define user error? I can hold at redline my LS2 GTO and not spin a barring. If a sports car handle high RPM's then that is the most stupid engine design ever!

You must have missed the part where he doesn't stop at redline.
Can you hold your LS2 GTO at 7000 rpm indefinitely (assuming fully stock, including stock valve train and connecting rod bolts)? Feel free to demonstrate if you think it will survive for long. Be sure to post the video on YouTube.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: You must have missed the part where he doesn't stop at redline. Can you hold your LS2 GTO at 7000 rpm indefinitely (assuming fully stock, including stock valve train and connecting rod bolts)? Feel free to demonstrate if you think it will survive for long. Be sure to post the video on YouTube.

i could with my volvo.

quote Originally posted by Seanpaul: Define user error? I can hold at redline my LS2 GTO and not spin a barring. If a sports car handle high RPM's then that is the most stupid engine design ever!

Ah... maybe on today's engines you can do that... some of them. GM's 2.8, 3.4, etc. are not designed for high revving. Their power peak is well below redline. If you go to redline you are wasting gas and destroying your engine.

Simple rule... don't act like you are driving a Honda....

quote Originally posted by jaskispyder: Again, the peak power in a 2.8 is well below the redline. Each engine has their peak power point. Honda engines can rev all day, but not a GM 2.8.

i know. like i said user error. i got on the free way and took it past red line. no big deal. now i can build a engine....before monday

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: I will be doing a 3800SC fiero swap here in a few weeks for less than $500.

I would be very interested in seeing this build, please post a very in depth install! I was going to do a 3800SC but was intimidated by the wiring, mounts, exhaust and everything else that needs to be fabricated. I went with a crate 2.8/3.4 motor but I really want to see a budget build of the 3800SC for future reference. And I know there are lots of 3800SC builds on here but am interested in seeing YOUR budget build.

i think i found my car. http://stockton.craigslist.org/cto/1624000134.html

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: what year bird will work?

As is the case with the 3.4L Camaro V6 engines, you also can use as the starting point for your swap the 3.4L Firebird V6 engines from 1993 through 1995.

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I rev my 2.8 L to 5500 RPM (optimum shift point on my car) on a daily basis once the engine is at its normal operating temperature.

When new, the marginal oiling system is fine. That is, when the camshaft bearings still have tight clearances, and the oil pressure isn't all being lost to the camshaft bearings.

To not blow up an engine again, rather than slap a junk engine into the car, take it apart first, and check it over.

quote Originally posted by pmbrunelle: I rev my 2.8 L to 5500 RPM (optimum shift point on my car) on a daily basis once the engine is at its normal operating temperature. When new, the marginal oiling system is fine. That is, when the camshaft bearings still have tight clearances, and the oil pressure isn't all being lost to the camshaft bearings. To not blow up an engine again, rather than slap a junk engine into the car, take it apart first, and check it over.

yea but i dont have time for that. This is my DD and i need it for school.

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: lesson learned. dont rev a fiero past 6500.

You meant to blow up your engine right?

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: This is my DD and i need it for school.

You should have thought of that before you decided to drive your Fiero like a Honduh.
No matter how much you rev them, V-TEC isn't going to kick in, yo.

I don't get it. I don't think I've revved my 5 speed 2.8L over 4k. It's not necessary really - even when getting on the interstate. Plus I mean it's loud as hell anyway. The more you rev it the more loud and annoying the car gets. Maybe that's why there's over 273k miles on the car and it's still running.

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: i just spun a rod bearing getting on the free way.

Two words: Rev Limiter

GET ONE!

(and set it at 5500 RPM)

quote Originally posted by Fiero84Freak: I don't get it. I don't think I've revved my 5 speed 2.8L over 4k. It's not necessary really - even when getting on the interstate. Plus I mean it's loud as hell anyway. The more you rev it the more loud and annoying the car gets. Maybe that's why there's over 273k miles on the car and it's still running.

People are going to floor it without the necessity. I certainly do.

The note of the 2.8 L at full throttle at 5000 RPM is intoxicating. It's a treat. Why wouldn't I want to hear it?

If the engine lasts me 200 000 km, I'm happy with that. Then if need be, I have a rebuild project.

If I wanted to baby the car, I would have purchased a FWD commuter, not a sports car.

I *want* it to be loud, bumpy, and raw... that's the essence of having an 80s sports car rather than a modern day numb, heavy, sound-isolated, cup-holder equipped, electronic nanny-filled car.

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