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Started on: 12-23-2010 08:27 AM
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Report this Post12-23-2010 08:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Va_Fiero_10Send a Private Message to Va_Fiero_10Direct Link to This Post
Ok, after searchin google an ebay with no luck. Where is a good place to start my search gor a wide body kit for se notch back? Saw a pick of a notch back with widebody n love it, thanks
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Report this Post12-23-2010 08:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TXGOODClick Here to visit TXGOOD's HomePageSend a Private Message to TXGOODDirect Link to This Post
http://www.v8archie.com/v8Archie/home.htm

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Report this Post12-23-2010 09:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero84FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero84FreakDirect Link to This Post
Other than the above link and if you're lucky to come across an old IMSA-style body kit, that's about all you're going to find.
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Report this Post12-23-2010 09:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for dobeySend a Private Message to dobeyDirect Link to This Post
If you don't want the Archie kit or IMSA, you're pretty much going to have to do it all by hand. Even if you want the IMSA style, you still might have to make it yourself.
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Report this Post12-23-2010 10:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JimmySClick Here to visit JimmyS's HomePageSend a Private Message to JimmySDirect Link to This Post
This is not a "Wide Body Kit" but is it a lot wider than the Fiero body... http://www.fierofiberglass....20Pages/Lizardo.html

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Report this Post12-23-2010 10:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackid86Send a Private Message to pontiackid86Direct Link to This Post
The only well known options you have for a wide body kit is from archie Or the IMSA.. theres also jimmy S but his kit is more of a rebody than a widebody.
Archie's looks the sportyist but the IMSA looks more racey.

I prefer the IMSA but im biasd.

This is my car with the DGP IMSA body on it


This is one of archie's not my thing but its nice

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Report this Post12-23-2010 10:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Va_Fiero_10Send a Private Message to Va_Fiero_10Direct Link to This Post
Nice. I love the archies pic. I love how wide side skirt is. When I get home from work tonite ill check ot archies site.
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Report this Post12-23-2010 11:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
Don't forget about Fiero Warehouse
www.fierowarehouse.com Click on the Fiberglass Parts link.

Doug bought all the original IMSA molds from IRM, who bought them from DGP.
Mine is not a wide body, but the scoops and whaletail came from Fiero Warehouse. Good folks!

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Originally posted by Va_Fiero_10:

Nice. I love the archies pic. I love how wide side skirt is. When I get home from work tonite ill check ot archies site.


Yeah, save yourself the un-needed heartache when trying to create a kit from scratch. If you buy the MadArch wide body kit from V8Archie's and perform minor tweak to suit your own individual taste you'll end-up way ahead. Keep in mind that when using widebody kits you need wider rear wheels/tire and they can be costly. Expect to pay a per rim/tire-upwards of $500+ for the rim and $300 for the rear tire.

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Report this Post12-23-2010 12:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Va_Fiero_10Send a Private Message to Va_Fiero_10Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by madcurl:


Yeah, save yourself the un-needed heartache when trying to create a kit from scratch. If you buy the MadArch wide body kit from V8Archie's and perform minor tweak to suit your own individual taste you'll end-up way ahead. Keep in mind that when using widebody kits you need wider rear wheels/tire and they can be costly. Expect to pay a per rim/tire-upwards of $500+ for the rim and $300 for the rear tire.


Hey thanks for that info, I had not thought of that but good to know. Ill wait om buyin rims till I get the kit.

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Report this Post12-23-2010 12:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Here's the link: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/064001.html

I have found during my 11-year experience that buying custom wheels is the best solution. Otherwise, you spend a lot of time trying to find a 5-x100 bolt pattern from off the shelf wheels. You'll need at least a 10.5" rear wheel for a 88 and a 11" being just right for a 84-87. Rear tires ranges are 285-325. although you can opt for wheel adapters-IMPO I would pass on them.
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Report this Post12-27-2010 12:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GADJetSend a Private Message to GADJetDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by madcurl:


Yeah, save yourself the un-needed heartache when trying to create a kit from scratch. If you buy the MadArch wide body kit from V8Archie's and perform minor tweak to suit your own individual taste you'll end-up way ahead. Keep in mind that when using widebody kits you need wider rear wheels/tire and they can be costly. Expect to pay a per rim/tire-upwards of $500+ for the rim and $300 for the rear tire.



So Curly, what do you propose it would cost a fella to get the madarch kit and wheels and tires to complete the look? A rough ball park is substantial.
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Originally posted by madcurl:

Here's the link: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/064001.html

I have found during my 11-year experience that buying custom wheels is the best solution. Otherwise, you spend a lot of time trying to find a 5-x100 bolt pattern from off the shelf wheels. You'll need at least a 10.5" rear wheel for a 88 and a 11" being just right for a 84-87. Rear tires ranges are 285-325. although you can opt for wheel adapters-IMPO I would pass on them.


Couldn't agree more. The wheel and tire combo will be a deal breaker for some but it makes the car complete. I have been researching wheels for months and thanks to Deezil I contacted James @ weldcraft.com this morning and he is going to widen my 2 rear wheels for less then the cost of one tire! I will have 18 x 7.5's and 18 x 11.5's on my IMSA GT rebody.
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Originally posted by GADJet:
So Curly, what do you propose it would cost a fella to get the madarch kit and wheels and tires to complete the look? A rough ball park is substantial.


I believe the MadArch is about $1,995. The wider front fenders are optional (I forgot the price on those, but you can check V8Archie web site). As for the rims and tires it is best to not go beyond a 285 in the rear for fear your wallet's check light might come on. A 285 varies from tire companies. Tire Rack might have them at $260+ depending upon the company. As for the fronts you can opt for 235 at about $230 per tire. In all, your looking at 1k for the tires.

The wheels are a bit tricky since (as I mentioned) you really need custom wheels unless you have connections as the previous member just stated. Other-than-that, the cheapest custom wheels I've seen (so far) is Whodeannie's. Give Dean a call since he is a dealer for Bon Speed in his area. Here's a link from Whodeannie's thread.

 
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https://www.fiero.nl/cgi-bin...om+build&replyto=302

I talked to BonSpeed yesterday and my wheels shipped out yesyerday. they sent me a tracking number but the shipper is not like UPS where you can track every movement.
so I am not sure with thanksgiving as to when they will get here but as soon as they do I will post it.
D.
just to remind me what is on its way!




they should look great on my car.

 
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ok here is the update you have all been waiting for. last night I test fit the wheels and they fit exactly the way I wanted them to I could not be happier witht the fit.
even with the delays I would highly recomend BonSpeed to any one.
here are some pic's and info from last night.

first off I took measurements on the clearance to the strut on the rear.

here are some pic's of the wheels on the car.

Rear

Front

the back of the wheel. also notice BonSpeed does what they call a hidden valve stem it is on the back lip of the wheel you can see the hole.
there is no problem with clearance but what I am using are the removeable stems. or flushmount as they call them.

this shot was just to see how much bigger the wheels were.

when I ordered the wheels they had asked me what brakes I was going to use so they could make sure they had enough clearance.
I had told them 13"Willwoods and later decided on Corvette brakes instead I called them and they were not sure if they would clear
so I told them to just build them for the Willwoods well last night I test fit the Corvette setup and they have more than enough clearance to the spokes 5/8" to be exact.
Just FYI.

Weight of the front wheel. if you can't see it 25.8lbs.

and the rear was 27.8lbs.
I knew they were lite but I was guessing 30+lbs.
all in all I am very happy with them.
as far as where they set on the body of the car the front set almost exactly flush and the rear set about 1/2" inside the top of the fender.
that is exactly what I wanted them to be.
as far as what I ordered here are the details.
my car 88GT
hole pattern 5 x 100, back space 38mm., front 19 x 8.5 and rear 20 x 10
I hope this info helps others with there choices for wheels.


If I may add. Buying custom wheels are far better than off the shelf wheels because.

1. If you should ever break a rim-they can re-make them (CNC machine) and unlike after market rims-once they're out of production-you're screwed.
2. Custom fitments to your application. No need for adapters nor having to deal with companies spiting on your money.
3. No sleepless nights.
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Report this Post12-27-2010 03:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TommyRockerSend a Private Message to TommyRockerDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:

This is one of archie's not my thing but its nice


Didn't you put Archie's "widebody" rockers on one of your cars? As in, you faked the Archie widebody look? As in, "this sort of thing IS my bag, baby!"

Or do you mean the IMSA is the flavor of the week?
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Hey Curly, Motortend, and those that have an the Arch widebody. What offset (roughly) are you using? Car is an 88 with RCC coilovers.

Need to get an idea. You guy's going with low 12-15 mm offsets? I am looking at a 19x10 for the rear. Nice solid width. Plus what are the profiles of the tires? 35, or 30's?
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Originally posted by blkpearl:

Hey Curly, Motortend, and those that have an the Arch widebody. What offset (roughly) are you using? Car is an 88 with RCC coilovers.

Need to get an idea. You guy's going with low 12-15 mm offsets? I am looking at a 19x10 for the rear. Nice solid width. Plus what are the profiles of the tires? 35, or 30's?



Rear rollers: Both cars are 87s, so using a 88 will using the widths listed will stick out greatly. THIS IS ONLY A EXAMPLE USING HRE WHEELS.

#020 (Curley’s car) 20x11, Offset +11.1mm

#022 (Troy’s car) 20x12, Offset +7mm

However, using a 19x 10.5 should be right at the top of the fender (as was the case with Demancheno's #025 1988 Fiero).

WARNING: THE HRE WHEELS AND SPECS THAT HAVE BEEN USED ON THE MADARCH WIDE BODY KITS SO YOUR AFTER MARKET RIMS MAY VARY FROM HRE. #013, #022 ARE ALL 1986-87 FIEROS. #015 IS THE ONLY FIERO (1988) THAT USES HRE AND THEY ARE 20X12 AND ARE EXTREMELY WIDE.

The profiles for the all rears are 25-series. In your case, using a 30-series is better for cost and softer ride using a 285/30/20 (the same as Demancheno's-I think Dean too is using the same too?). I'm not sure if anybody here is using a 285/30/19.
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Report this Post12-28-2010 04:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Custom2M4Send a Private Message to Custom2M4Direct Link to This Post
http://www.1010tires.com/wheeloffsetcalculator.asp

Use your stock wheels as starting points and use the above calculator.
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