This morning i started painting around 10ish. I let dry until around 5pm, then I wetsanded with 800 grit and then i applied the 2nd coat. The 2nd coat seems to dry a little quicker, or maybe its cause i turned up the heat... This is all the farther i've got. I havent done any polishing yet, This is what the paint looks like with 1 coat directly over white, wetsand, then a 2nd coat.
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08:55 PM
David DeVoe Member
Posts: 1358 From: Grand Blanc, MI US Registered: Jul 2001
Are you keeping track of how much you're thinning the paint or are you just eyeballing it? As I understand from the other thread, thinning is what makes the paint flow out smooth.
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Ms Formula Member
Posts: 138 From: Pittsburgh area, Pa USA Registered: Mar 2005
I have a i small container and i bigger container.. I'm doing a 50/50 mix. so i fill the little one up once with paint, and once with mineral spirits, and i have my 50/50 mixture / / / as far as moving around the house goes, I'm the only one home alll day long. Kristina "my fiancee" goes to college from 8am - 4pm, then goes to work from 4pm to 8-9 pm.... so i have the house to my self.... Plus she supports all of my "ideas".... Usually with a pat on the head and a "your going good honey keep it up"
I would definately recommend scuffing up the white paint before applying the black so it adheres better. You may have issues with the paint flaking on the parts were you didn't.
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DandRauto Member
Posts: 419 From: Middletown, NJ Registered: Mar 2001
Please keep up the good work. My car needs a paint job in the worst way but first things first, it has to be fast and furious so I'll get started after the engine transplant. I was thinking white until someone mentioned the potential for yellowing over time, so now I'm going with my favorite color, black. Post more pictures when you can.
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Nov 8th, 2006
jeffndebrus Member
Posts: 2772 From: Jacksonville, Fl- usa Registered: Aug 2001
What about the ridge that will be left when you lift the tape off?
The wetsanding and buffing will take it out I already took the tape off on my 4th coat and did some wetsanding, It came right out, The paint is very thin and easy to deal with.
"Wonder if you could mix metal flake in to that paint?" i wondered the exact same thing, and on the Moparts.org thread the thought is to mix it into a clear coat rather than the color. i'm going to try it both ways on my practice panel this winter, in the comfort of my living room. i'm going for an approximation of the medium red metallic original fiero color, to cover the crappy bright red repaint job on my '85. if it comes out as good as BLK86FSTBAKGT's, it's definitely worth experimenting with. i found flake here http://www.paintwithpearl.com/ if anyone with more painting experience has a better source, i'd be grateful for a pointer.
good job, BLK, and Earl, i'm definitely gonna give this a try now how does the urethane behave? any special prep needed?
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02SOMFormula Member
Posts: 120 From: Carmichael, CA USA Registered: Apr 2006
I went out to Home Depot and bought a very small can of this! My car is the exact same as yours! I'm going to repaint the wing first, just to check it out and see if it works real well! I just want to keep my car white though! I'll keep an eye out on the yellowing! If it yellows, and the paint job works good, I'll just repaint the car black or something!
Great write-up, thanks! I'll keep an eye on this!
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F-I-E-R-O Member
Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
Just some thoughts on this process... Wet sanding will give a greater shine, you've gone this far, don't skip on getting the paint as smooth as you can. As far as the metal flake goes, I doubt that it will work with a roller. Even with a spray can, the flake is diffficult to get to look spread out nice and evenly. I could be wrong though- I haven't tried it myself, just going on my experience using a metalic grey spray on my roof top, which by the way I need to sand and do over because of some bubbling due to my inability to be patient. Grrrrrrrrrrr...
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Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
Oh yeah... Real men don't work with "Odorless Spirits!"
Then maybe you should get ahold of some of the stuff I'm using to strip the wallpaper adhesive off of my bathroom walls. Works great once you regain consciousness. lol
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86fieroEarl Member
Posts: 2203 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Jun 2002
Then maybe you should get ahold of some of the stuff I'm using to strip the wallpaper adhesive off of my bathroom walls. Works great once you regain consciousness. lol
I did a little checking on the Rustoleum thing- The $50 roller paint job as detailed on another forum was done with the Rustoleum product called Tremclad sold in Canada the US product isn't the standard Rustoleum as sold in WalMart or the like but rather it's" Industrial Rustoleum", just a little tidbit of info
yup, Tremclad. they're also arguing in Brobdignag-ian fashion about which is better - the Tremclad, or a similar product called 'Brightside' - which i've never heard of - a marine product. i'm gonna go with the tremclad because the color pallette includes a dark red. supposedly the odorless mineral spirits gave someone there some problems. my local hardware store doesn't have pure mineral spirits, but i wanna deviate from the instructions as little as possible so i'll drive further for the 'GoodStuff'
I need one of you folks to try the HAMMERITE brand of paint. It comes in metallics, is a bit more expensive but has a really great finish. I think it is a better quality than Rustoleum. Do it, do it, do it!!!!!
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NSAN1T Member
Posts: 698 From: Marble Falls, Texas, USA Registered: Mar 2002
Roger or someone could help here, but my personal experience is:
when i was younger I learned a lil bout painting cars, we started on a Buick GN TType, Painted it artic white w/fine black metallic flake mixed in it, can't remember the parts to mix it by, but anyways.. we topped it off with 2 layers of clear then a layer of clear mixed w/fine "sapphire/royal" blue metallic flake.. then 2 mor clears.. the car turned out extremely beautiful.. at the time anyways.. from what i remember, it usually best to mix metallic in with the 2 layer of clear then add at least one regular clear on top of that.. the mixing withthe base is ok but it depends on the colors..
Its been 8+ years though.. i could be off a bit...
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Originally posted by TorqueWench:
"Wonder if you could mix metal flake in to that paint?" i wondered the exact same thing, and on the Moparts.org thread the thought is to mix it into a clear coat rather than the color. i'm going to try it both ways on my practice panel this winter, in the comfort of my living room. i'm going for an approximation of the medium red metallic original fiero color, to cover the crappy bright red repaint job on my '85. if it comes out as good as BLK86FSTBAKGT's, it's definitely worth experimenting with. i found flake here http://www.paintwithpearl.com/ if anyone with more painting experience has a better source, i'd be grateful for a pointer.
good job, BLK, and Earl, i'm definitely gonna give this a try now how does the urethane behave? any special prep needed?
flake stays in suspension even if the pain levels, right? viscosity, surface tension, and all that jazz? half of me wants to think if the flake is evenly dispersed, than it would retain an even look even after wet sanding. but then the other half of me reminds the first half of me that me knows next to nothing about painting cars, whatever the method...brush, gun, roller, or sneezed modern abstract pointilism. the supposed other virtue of the roller/tremclad method is obviating the need for clearcoat. which would throw my adding flake to a clear idea out the window. the only way i'm gonna settle my curiosity, is to do it. i've got a rocker panel coming, that i could start on, but i can't be sure the paint will play nice with the olefin. so i'm gonna wait til i have a door skin or fender.
i'll search for more info on Hammerite...
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Nov 9th, 2006
StuGood Member
Posts: 3172 From: Wichita, KS, USA Registered: Jun 2000