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FX-R....True Bi-Xenon Projectors! by DMendez7
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Report this Post02-16-2011 08:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DMendez7Send a Private Message to DMendez7Direct Link to This Post
Hello all,

I found myself snooping around eBay the other day and stumbled upon some decent pair of projectors for about $100 shipped. They're the FX-R projectors, reverse engineered from Infiniti's FX-35 stock projectors. you can read on them here (http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=101)
I decided to find a way to mount them to retrofit my headlights on my current fiero.

Bought some aftermarket H6054 headlamps off eBay with black interior and a fake projector in order to start this project.
Used a dremel to cut into the housing in order to sit the projector.


Got ahold of a pair of 2" long bolts to hold down the projectors to the housing. (that's the farthest you can let the projector go in since the mounting holes are in that area)


Mounted



Since the projector is a little too long, i replaced the bolts that hold the bracket with longer ones in order to accommodate the projector


Perfectly fine from the backside, i didn't want to let it stick out much since it might pop up the headlight doors when the lights are off.


Left is finished, Right is the standart H6054 from eBay.


Finished up both headlights today, gonna install wiring harness with relay + D2S 6000K Bulbs tomorrow

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Interesting!

Do you have high beams w/ those bulbs?

Now all you gotta do is make some smaller buckets (or shorter?) so they do not stick up so high when open

BTW, you have to resize those pics; would make it ALLOT easier to see them when opened...

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Report this Post02-16-2011 12:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DMendez7Send a Private Message to DMendez7Direct Link to This Post
Yes, those projectors have high beam. theres a little piece of aluminum inside the projector that moves up and down for low/high. i heard the beam pattern on them is out of this world.
it was my first time posting up pics, i didn't know i was suppose to resize them but edited my post already

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Originally posted by DMendez7:

it was my first time posting up pics, i didn't know i was suppose to resize them but edited my post already



Much easier to tell what I am looking at now, as I can see the entire picture in one screen size
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Report this Post02-16-2011 07:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for carbonSend a Private Message to carbonDirect Link to This Post
Have you tested them in the car yet? It will be interesting to see the clearance with the headlight doors when the capsules are installed...
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When you mounted them I hope you somehow made sure that the cut off matches and is straight, which would be difficult if not impossible. When mount projectors you need to be about to rotate them to line up/match the cut off. I would also suggest getting proper bulbs. Phillips are basically the only HID bulbs. Anything else is china crap, they wont last, they get hotter and could damage the projectors.

Good score on those projectors, they are quite good.
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Report this Post02-17-2011 07:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for carbonSend a Private Message to carbonDirect Link to This Post
Seeing as how you actually thought to mod a housing to use a real projector, instead of slapping some cheap HID kit in to halogen projectors, or even worse, reflector housings, you may already know about the site, but HID Planet is an awesome resource!

Interested to see the output on those... I have seen a lot of FX-R pics but not on a Fiero.

Edit... I don't see any pics that show you trying to waterproof/seal the back of the housing around the projector... you need to do this.

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Originally posted by carbon:
Seeing as how you actually thought to mod a housing to use a real projector, instead of slapping some cheap HID kit in to halogen projectors, or even worse, reflector housings


+1, Thank you for actually doing this properly! (Just make sure they are aimed right) Info on aiming is at HID planet that carbon posted a link for.

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Alright guys, so far so good! I put in a few hours today on this project trying to do everything the right way. I received my new relay wiring harness through USPS this morning so i took care of all the wiring today.
I'm a local HID seller here in El Paso, so i used a regular H4 Bi-Xenon relay wiring harness to power my new D2S 6K bulbs. Since the designed bulbs that are supposed to be used with the H4 wiring are telescopic, I used the power cables that activate the regular telescopic H4 bulbs into "High beam" to power the FX-R's "high beam" solenoid switch.

Received my D2S 6K bulbs and the adapters to power the bulbs.


I wired everything up before installing to make sure the wiring harness was correct


All wiring was put inside the drivers side fender to make room for the headlights


Mounted the HID relays along with the headlight relay:



Mounted the ballast inside the fender with some zip ties


Passenger side's wiring


and now i need to seal the projectors to make them waterproof, that will be done tomorrow

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Originally posted by carbon:

Have you tested them in the car yet? It will be interesting to see the clearance with the headlight doors when the capsules are installed...


I have mounted them already and i had to modify the housings again to make them slimmer. but it was accomplished nonetheless!
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Originally posted by bnevets27:

When you mounted them I hope you somehow made sure that the cut off matches and is straight, which would be difficult if not impossible. When mount projectors you need to be about to rotate them to line up/match the cut off. I would also suggest getting proper bulbs. Phillips are basically the only HID bulbs. Anything else is china crap, they wont last, they get hotter and could damage the projectors.

Good score on those projectors, they are quite good.


I did mount them correcty, I placed a strip of tape along the straight lines on the front glass. I then put the projector in its place and peeked through the bulb hole to see the tape and match the cut off line. i then marked the position of the projector's mounting holes and drilled them to be straight. I am currently looking into buying Philips bulbs but they are quite expensive, i bought some "china crap" bulbs for now but i don't intend to keep them very long.
I am satisfied with these projectors for now

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Report this Post02-20-2011 10:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for carbonSend a Private Message to carbonDirect Link to This Post
Great job... it'd be sweet to see some output pics if you could!

WTH... I clicked the thumbs up icon for the post, not the embarrassed face... o_O

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Report this Post02-22-2011 01:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DMendez7Send a Private Message to DMendez7Direct Link to This Post
Finally finished my project today! bumped into some problems on the way but fixed them nonetheless.
Here are some pictures.

Sealed the projectors with JB Weld. Cut the frame of the headlight housings in order to fit the projector


Inside the hood, shrink-wired some standard HID connectors to plug/unplug the headlights wiring.


Installed, without the hood


Installed, with hood on


Low Beam


High Beam
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Report this Post02-22-2011 02:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RamsesprideSend a Private Message to RamsesprideDirect Link to This Post
Good god those are bright. I wonder if it would be possible to take your way of installing these and adapting them to fit in my Cherokee. Has the same headlights the Fiero uses.
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This made me put some in my "my ebay". I plan to do this soon as I can now.

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Looks awesome... possible bulb alignment issue on the right, but awesome none the less.
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Report this Post02-22-2011 03:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DMendez7Send a Private Message to DMendez7Direct Link to This Post
i took the pictures before adjusting the lights, they look great now! I'm very happy with this investment i made.
If you're thinking of upgrading your stock lighting, i would definitely recommend this over the Hella 90mm one just because the buckets are so damn expensive.
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Originally posted by DMendez7:

i would definitely recommend this over the Hella 90mm one just because the buckets are so damn expensive.


Yeah, the buckets can be expensive...

While your HIDs look fantastic, the advantages the buckets offer are:
Direct bolt in
low profile pop-ups
Modern lighting technology
fantastic looking headlamps...

You did a fantastic job on installing those HIDs. Props to you.

Definitely a great DIY project to improve the lighting on the Fiero, and easily done by anyone who wants modern HID technology on a budget.
Great job!
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Yeah, the buckets can be expensive...

While your HIDs look fantastic, the advantages the buckets offer are:
Direct bolt in
low profile pop-ups
Modern lighting technology
fantastic looking headlamps...

You did a fantastic job on installing those HIDs. Props to you.

Definitely a great DIY project to improve the lighting on the Fiero, and easily done by anyone who wants modern HID technology on a budget.
Great job!


Thanks! i did what I could, glad i could show you guys that it's possible!
hopefully i'll see some other fiero's modded with this!
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this is awesome. i had the same idea to do this with my C4 and the fiero. but then i found the low rise hella setup.
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Report this Post07-17-2011 06:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DMendez7Send a Private Message to DMendez7Direct Link to This Post
So I loved the FX-R projectors so much that i decided to go above and beyond with another pair of FX-R's for my "foglights"
Used an odd location to mount them just to make it "unique" and stray away from traditional foglight locations.
Could be unsafe or outrageous in a way but light output is tremendous now.

Mounted inside the bumper



Mounted ballasts with industrial strength double sided tape


covered projectors and used bondo to correct imperfections around the projector



Results



Will post light output pictures later during night time

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Report this Post07-17-2011 08:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RCRSend a Private Message to RCRDirect Link to This Post
Were you provided actual dimensions for the housings? I'd like to compare them to the 60mm Hellas I was planning on using for my build.

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Dimensions FXR 2.0

Max Depth: 140mm (5.50" inches)
Max Height 99.5mm (3.90 inches)
Max Width 110mm (4.35 inches)
Lens Diameter 2.5 inches
from theRetrofitSource

2.5 inches x 25.4 = 63.5mm
I suspect it is a 60mm lens and this dimension was not supplied by the Chinese manufacturer.

I have wanted to try these but have refrained because these are not weatherproof.

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Originally posted by RCR:

Were you provided actual dimensions for the housings? I'd like to compare them to the 60mm Hellas I was planning on using for my build.

Bob


hairballrm nailed it with the specs, i got these off of theretrofitsource and just sealed them myself to be able to expose them like i did.
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How did you seal them?
These would work great for me (price, performance and dimensions)
I am afraid of dirt getting inside.
Also I worry about moisture causing trouble with the shutter and solinoid

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Originally posted by hairballrm:

How did you seal them?
Also I worry about moisture causing trouble with the shutter and solinoid



Used the "waterproof" version of the jbweld stick. molded every corner to fit and sealed everything perfectly. when it's dry its also sandable and paintable. did this to my headlight pair of fx-rs back in february and have had no problem with the shutter/solenoid. everything is perfect.
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