Hey Everybody i have the deal of a life time for ya! This motor is BRAND NEW from drain plug to distributor cap and everything in between! Ive got every performance mod you can put on a 3.4 already bolted in and on it. Starts on first crank has been driven maybe 200miles...did i mention brand new! Comes mated to the fiero TH125 automatic transmission which was professionally gone through and freshened up. (drive axels included) Engine Specs: 3.4 Chevy V6 (All machining done professionally) stock internals other than Keith Black hypereutecktic domed pistons (estimated 11:1 compression) Melling M- select camshaft: Duration 278/288, Lift .420/.443 (beautiful sounding idle, and perfect powerband) Stock Fiero Heads (proffesionally gone through and freshened up and milled 10thousandths ) Crane Gold 1.6 Full Roller Rockers Truleo Intake Manifold (ultimate fiero upgrade $700) Bored Throttle Body Bosch 19lbs Fuel Injectors Westcoast Fiero Shorty Headers and Y pipe Westcoast Fiero Cold Air Intake Every Ignition Component Brand New Accessories: new water pump, Melling High volume Oil Pump (60-70lbs at idle, pegs the gauge when ya get on it!) All new sensors *Custom Tuned Prom from Websters Garage! I know i am forgetting other things but that covers the main points! Don't build it yourself I already did the work for ya! I have well over 5000 dollars and countless hours in this package and everything to turn your fiero into the a real road machine DONT MISS OUT! I Need $2500 not a cent less. YOU cant Build this package for anywhere close to that price! Please Message me if your interested. Can hear run, the car is at our bodyshop in Mason, Michigan. Remember Motor, Tranny, Prom all bolts right into your fiero! Get ahold of me soon Thanks
Jeremy.
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For less money you could have twice the horsepower, twice the reliability, improved fuel mileage and better emissions with a modern engine swap.
Okay since this is posted in chat, then let's chat...
Not everybody wants a modern swap in a Fiero. Some people like the look and feel of the stock motor, but want a newer version of it for reliability reasons.
Oh and not everybody wants a 90 degree V8 with 2 cylinders missing that sounds like a$$
When my 2.8 bites the dust I am strongly inclined to replace it with a crate 3.4.
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Sure everyone wanta a fast 1/4 mile car. Hell i would love if i could have mine doing 12 if not sub 12 sec pass's. But i wouldnt trade the thrill of having a manual at my discretion. Thats the only thing that keeps me from going the 3800SC route. Im not saying all are auto. It just seems most are and the best set up for one is auto. Now 1badeighty eigjt. I would love to purchase your 3.4 and attach it to a manual. Unfortantly im no where near michigan. I wish you the best of luck thou. And even if i was i dont have the equipment needed to install it.
Sure everyone wanta a fast 1/4 mile car. Hell i would love if i could have mine doing 12 if not sub 12 sec pass's. But i wouldnt trade the thrill of having a manual at my discretion. Thats the only thing that keeps me from going the 3800SC route. Im not saying all are auto. It just seems most are and the best set up for one is auto. Now 1badeighty eigjt. I would love to purchase your 3.4 and attach it to a manual. Unfortantly im no where near michigan. I wish you the best of luck thou. And even if i was i dont have the equipment needed to install it.
V/R AG2(AW/SW) MAUK
Then use a manuel trans on a 3800 swap...Problem solved.....Justin's car is a 5 speed Getrag that is a DD that runs 11.5s......
Okay since this is posted in chat, then let's chat...
Not everybody wants a modern swap in a Fiero. Some people like the look and feel of the stock motor, but want a newer version of it for reliability reasons.
Oh and not everybody wants a 90 degree V8 with 2 cylinders missing that sounds like a$$
When my 2.8 bites the dust I am strongly inclined to replace it with a crate 3.4.
You actually have to still drive you cars to make them 'bite the dust"....So I think you will be good for a long time....Sure was hoping to see you at the Ruckus....
Then use a manuel trans on a 3800 swap...Problem solved.....Justin's car is a 5 speed Getrag that is a DD that runs 11.5s......
REALLY..... See from everything i've been reading every swears by the auto. So i just assumed(first mistake) that the manual is more of a hamper than a benifit for the 3800
V/R AG2(AW/SW) Mauk
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Originally posted by D3M6B: REALLY..... See from everything i've been reading every swears by the auto. So i just assumed(first mistake) that the manual is more of a hamper than a benifit for the 3800
Only in California.
The manual is a little more expensive, since you have to also get a flywheel/clutch/etc… to use, but it's not what really any more difficult to do.
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Posts: 11139 From: South Weber, UT. U.S.A. Registered: Jun 2008
Yup. Cali smog laws only let you use the tranny that came stock with the engine and I beleive there wasn't a 3800 manual tranny made (except possibly for a front engine RWD setup). So, if your car is registered in California then the auto is the way you would want to go if you did a 3800 swap. It is possible to get a special type of registration (I forget what it's called) that would allow use of a manual with the 3800 but only like 500 of those are issued each year, so good luck.
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For less money you could have twice the horsepower, twice the reliability, improved fuel mileage and better emissions with a modern engine swap.
Here's another example of the same crap. You don't have to throw up a debate about 3800's vs the world in EVERY engine thread. The only people impressed by this are you, DH, and L67. Why don't you try giving it a rest for a while?
Here's another example of the same crap. You don't have to throw up a debate about 3800's vs the world in EVERY engine thread. The only people impressed by this are you, DH, and L67. Why don't you try giving it a rest for a while?
Relax.
You are too emotional to see why I posted what I did. I also said nothing about your precious 3800.
You are too emotional to see why I posted what I did. I also said nothing about your precious 3800.
People are not here to have what they post critiqued by you. I know exactly what you posted, I read it more than once before I responded. I'm sure you were thinking of a LSX or a 3400 DOHC right? I'm not emotional when it comes to you, but I will call you out on this crap as you seem to be oblivious that no one is inviting this from you guys. The OP's post was a bit out of place seeing as this isn't the mall (which other people pointed out), but it wasn't really necessary to start the whole this engine vs that engine thing YET AGAIN. Do you not understand that a growing number of people are getting tired of this constant waste of time, effort, and IQ points? Your intention was to debate, otherwise you wouldn't have posted a post aimed at taking the thread off topic and initiating another confrontation. Be an adult for a minute and refrain.
Yup. Cali smog laws only let you use the tranny that came stock with the engine and I beleive there wasn't a 3800 manual tranny made (except possibly for a front engine RWD setup). So, if your car is registered in California then the auto is the way you would want to go if you did a 3800 swap. It is possible to get a special type of registration (I forget what it's called) that would allow use of a manual with the 3800 but only like 500 of those are issued each year, so good luck.
Nope. Fiero is reg in Illinois. Screw california and there emissions laws lol.
A new user posted an add in General Fiero Chat filled with lies and embellishments. This person with no history is asking $2500 for a drive train. I call this Spam. OP could easier be trying to dump a problematic engine on an unsuspecting member. Example: Engine could have developed rod knock. OP slips in a new bearing so that new buyer can "hear it run". Member spends his time, or pays someone else, to install the drive train, only to have it fail a few miles down the road. All sales are final, nothing can be done. Buyer Beware. This sounds fishy to me.
Since this is spam posted in general chat, lets weigh our options. You have $2500 you are willing to spend. Do you... (lets say the OP is 100% factual, engine will give years of service) - swap out a running 2.8, to give it a little bump in performance? - replace your blown 2.8 with this engine? - replace your blown 2.8 for a used ~$300 engine. - swap in a more modern engine (more elbow grease) - buy something like this(still a gamble imo) - _______________
For those biting on this add, whats is your reason. What do you value your Fiero at now, and after this 3.4 swap? (I know to some it doesn't matter if they invest 20x the value of car, like mptighe) Help me understand.
Do my posts hurt more than they help? ...or is mptighe the biggest crybaby I have ever seen on these car forums?
A new user posted an add in General Fiero Chat filled with lies and embellishments. This person with no history is asking $2500 for a drive train. I call this Spam. OP could easier be trying to dump a problematic engine on an unsuspecting member. Example: Engine could have developed rod knock. OP slips in a new bearing so that new buyer can "hear it run". Member spends his time, or pays someone else, to install the drive train, only to have it fail a few miles down the road. All sales are final, nothing can be done. Buyer Beware. This sounds fishy to me.
Since this is spam posted in general chat, lets weigh our options. You have $2500 you are willing to spend. Do you... (lets say the OP is 100% factual, engine will give years of service) - swap out a running 2.8, to give it a little bump in performance? - replace your blown 2.8 with this engine? - replace your blown 2.8 for a used ~$300 engine. - swap in a more modern engine (more elbow grease) - buy something like this(still a gamble imo) - _______________
For those biting on this add, whats is your reason. What do you value your Fiero at now, and after this 3.4 swap? (I know to some it doesn't matter if they invest 20x the value of car, like mptighe) Help me understand.
Do my posts hurt more than they help? ...or is mptighe the biggest crybaby I have ever seen on these car forums?
You're assuming quite a bit about this guy and the engine. Your original comment wasn't about the validity of his claim on the engine. You didn't ask for a build sheet validating the cost of the engine. You're breaking out your usual argument. The guy isn't trying to sell all of those other options. He's trying to sell what he has. It doesn't need to meet your approval. Personally I probably wouldn't spend that kind of cash on something like that, but I'm not a "Fiero purist". I don't need a Fiero plenum or to have it look stock. I'm not everyone though. I don't go into people's threads where they're trying to sell something and argue that it's not worth buying. Sometimes I comment about the value compared to comparable items, but that's about it.
I don't understand why people do the things they do, but I'm not going to try to debate every time I see something I wouldn't have done. I personally don't like most of the kit cars, especially the Lambos and Ferraris. I'm not going to go into every thread and challenge their right to do it. Call me a crybaby all you want, I have more respect for people and their choices than you. I also wouldn't type something on here that I wouldn't say to their face. Can you say the same?
OP, sorry about the derail. Justin can pm me if he wants to continue this. I'll refrain from continuing with this in your thread. Good luck with the sale, it might be a tough sell as you can see.
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Originally posted by mptighe: Here's another example of the same crap. You don't have to throw up a debate about 3800's vs the world in EVERY engine thread. The only people impressed by this are you, DH, and L67. Why don't you try giving it a rest for a while?
$2500 for a th125+3.4 pushrod is a bit much, even if it's freshly built. There are lots of engines you could put in for cheaper. The 3800 is only one of them.
Relax, man. No need to overreact.
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I met a local guy yesterday at Seekonk Speedway who has a 2.8 NA putting down 325hp to the wheels. His build is somewhere on v6z24.com... I guess he's running 12:1 with heads machined to use 2.02" intake valves. Shifts at 7300 rpm...
You're assuming quite a bit about this guy and the engine. Your original comment wasn't about the validity of his claim on the engine. You didn't ask for a build sheet validating the cost of the engine. You're breaking out your usual argument. The guy isn't trying to sell all of those other options. He's trying to sell what he has. It doesn't need to meet your approval. Personally I probably wouldn't spend that kind of cash on something like that, but I'm not a "Fiero purist". I don't need a Fiero plenum or to have it look stock. I'm not everyone though. I don't go into people's threads where they're trying to sell something and argue that it's not worth buying. Sometimes I comment about the value compared to comparable items, but that's about it.
I don't understand why people do the things they do, but I'm not going to try to debate every time I see something I wouldn't have done. I personally don't like most of the kit cars, especially the Lambos and Ferraris. I'm not going to go into every thread and challenge their right to do it. Call me a crybaby all you want, I have more respect for people and their choices than you. I also wouldn't type something on here that I wouldn't say to their face. Can you say the same?
OP, sorry about the derail. Justin can pm me if he wants to continue this. I'll refrain from continuing with this in your thread. Good luck with the sale, it might be a tough sell as you can see.
I wasn't asking you any questions, unless you have considered paying for this package. I asked some legitimate questions that were on topic. I could have started a new thread but didn't think it was necessary. You are the one derailing this thread. It sounds like you are obssesed with me and a few other on here.
HAHHAHAH whoa! everybody hit the brakes! I ONLY even made an account here to sell this motor! First post ever! My appolgies for posting on two pages i first put it here because i didnt look around long enough to see that the mall was there. As soon as i saw the gentleman comment about posting in the mall might be a better option, I copied and pasted the post there! YES Im real YES the motor is real! haha as for brand new.. well no i didn't chisel the block outta a peice of iron myself yesterday, but every part in the motor is NEW, it runs flawless turn key fires on first crank. Yes i have probably too much money into it and your right i could have made alot more power for the money but it was just an expensive life lesson. Nothing fishy here gentlemen i simply was putting what i have out there, the ones who are interested great i look forward to hearin from ya, if not i promise it doesnt hurt my feelings any! figured there was no better place to advertise a FIERO engine than a FIERO FORUM so i gave it a shot! Didnt mean to start a little pissing contest with anyone i assure you!
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Posts: 5 From: Lansing ,MI, United States Registered: Oct 2011
I met a local guy yesterday at Seekonk Speedway who has a 2.8 NA putting down 325hp to the wheels. His build is somewhere on v6z24.com... I guess he's running 12:1 with heads machined to use 2.02" intake valves. Shifts at 7300 rpm...
What intake setup is he using along with what trans?
I wasn't asking you any questions, unless you have considered paying for this package. I asked some legitimate questions that were on topic. I could have started a new thread but didn't think it was necessary. You are the one derailing this thread. It sounds like you are obssesed with me and a few other on here.
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Hey Justin. I was told by another member thay your 3800 has a manual as apposed to the typical auto. How much additional work did it take to make the manual compadible(clutch work if any,ect,ect). Also i can see by your 1/4 time your not lacking by that much but how much playing and tinkering did it take you to figure out how the engine wanted to be treated and shiftes?
Hey Justin. I was told by another member thay your 3800 has a manual as apposed to the typical auto. How much additional work did it take to make the manual compadible(clutch work if any,ect,ect). Also i can see by your 1/4 time your not lacking by that much but how much playing and tinkering did it take you to figure out how the engine wanted to be treated and shiftes?
Machined flywheel, stage 5 clutch. I have broken a few transmission. I've learned that I can't shock load it from a stop. An automatic would give me a quicker 1/4 mile time. With this much power shifting gets annoying. Some more info in my sig under "turbo"
You actually have to still drive you cars to make them 'bite the dust"....So I think you will be good for a long time....Sure was hoping to see you at the Ruckus....
But as for the 2.8 powered car I drove it all summer until the a/c went out. Now I'm waiting for cooler weather or until I can get around to recharging the a/c. The ole L44 is starting to have difficulty keeping the oil on the inside so it's probable that it won't last forever. I would love to have a 3.4 pushrod built up to look like an L44, not for power obviously but to last for another 25 years or so of driving.
