As some of you may know I had some larger diameter brake boosters made up. They have the correct length banjos with HD larger than stock diameter banjos. I asked for some to test them. I wanted some ideally to have ME degrees. I sent out 3 for testing and that fell short of my desires:
QUOTE: For the moment I have decided to not pursue the larger brake boosters. I have had several people tell me I could be sued even if the booster change was not at fault by someone that was in an accident. All thru the process of developing this booster and getting the sample test boosters made I always have had a terrible amount of anxiety worrying about being litigated. I received the test boosters and send three out to people (at no charge) that I selected. 2 were ME's and one was a person that works on many Fieros and had told me a few times to not do this. So I sent him one to try. A few weeks went by and no one emailed me even saying they received their test booster I sent them. What a let down. So I emailed all three and they told me they did receive them and would install them and let me know. I previously had emailed them and stated that I wanted them to first look at the critical dimensions etc before they installed them. This showed me they were not even paying attention and I felt they did not really want to help me with the R&D. I could send them to anyone to just install and test. I sent them to people I thought would be thorough in looking at them. So after that I lost all interest in this project.
I have a couple on hand yet. I would consider sending one out if I can find someone that (preferably) has a engineering degree or an engineering type back ground to look at it and discuss the critical dimensions and then after that is finished install it and test it. Anyone? I may or may not have more made but if I ever chose to have some made this work has yet to be done.
------------------ Rodney Dickman
Fiero Parts And Acc's Web Page: All new web page!:www.rodneydickman.com Rodney Dickman's Fiero accessories 7604 Treeview Drive Caledonia, WI 53108 Phone/Fax (262) 835-9575
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Posts: 20770 From: Central Florida Registered: Dec 2001
hey rodney i would like to test this for ya and install it on my car .....but what kinda feed back you looking for and you looking for an install on a stock brake set up .....i have worked for dodge for 5 years and have acces to many many tools i have helped lambo88 with his hinges and have gave him feed back to the point where he is today which are still on my car
thanx and let me know !!
~Tom Harding
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Posts: 4179 From: Pewaukee, Wisconsin, USA Registered: Apr 2008
I am willing to perform this task. I have an 87 GT that is for the most part is all original with 71,000 miles. I was considering building my own and just did some reading up on what it takes. I have an engineering background and do all my own vehicle maint. Let me know if I can be of some help.
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Posts: 2920 From: Rockledge, FL Registered: Jun 2006
Rodney I can vouch for Hardpact with his experience and work ethic. You need more than just some certified mechanic to test these to give you a true read of where you want to be with this product. Hardpac is surrounded by master mechanics that have years of experience that could give their insite as well and do own several fieros and have done many mods to them including 3800 installs. Please give him the chance to prove to you that his intentions are true and will give you very accurate feed back on your product. He is not the type of person who is looking to prosper thru testing a product for you and keeping it for their own purpose.Like I state I have been a mechanic for 25 years but he has the new knowlege to come thru for you.
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Rodney I can vouch for Hardpact with his experience and work ethic. You need more than just some certified mechanic to test these to give you a true read of where you want to be with this product. Hardpac is surrounded by master mechanics that have years of experience that could give their insite as well and do own several fieros and have done many mods to them including 3800 installs. Please give him the chance to prove to you that his intentions are true and will give you very accurate feed back on your product. He is not the type of person who is looking to prosper thru testing a product for you and keeping it for their own purpose.Like I state I have been a mechanic for 25 years but he has the new knowlege to come thru for you.
Stopping distance Pedal effort measured in foot pounds at the pedal
whatever you decide to do, stay classy my friend!!!
maybe asking what he is looking for instead of guessing!!!
as for the cert part i'm ase master tech if needed to know !!! but dont go by that i feel experiance is the key not how book smart you are anybody can pass a writin test !!! challange comes when you work in the real world on real problems !! ------------------
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Posts: 4809 From: Hyde Park, New York Registered: Sep 2006
Rodney, I remember reading somewhere about your disappointment with others not holding true to their word and coming through. I can honestly say from personal experience with Hardpact, he knows what he's doing and a man of his word! IMHO I believe you have a perfect candidate at your doorstep. I have access to force gauges and (with Hardpacts help) have a Fiero to test it with an engineering background. I still say he's a better candidate
Side note: although I'm building one right now I would prefer to have a professionally built one available.
Would love to test this out for you as my degree is in electromehanical engineering (not practicing in the field though). However, I do not have my Fiero on the road at the moment as I am in the finishing stages of a 3800 swap... Kinda pointless to post I know, but if you do not find someone and can hold off a few months for on-road testing, then LMK... All I could comment on now would be the design and fitment...
AL
BTW, my pads and rotors are new; rotors are drilled/slotted, also have ss break lines and the Fiero is an 88gt. Duno if any of that is relevant...
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Posts: 5350 From: Warwick, RI Registered: Jun 2000
I think when ever we modify our cars, the disclaimer "for off-road use only" is assumed. Perhaps you can just add this disclaimer. You see this on alot of "custom" parts. Otherwise, the industry wouldn't exist.
I myself am running an '82 Corvette booster on my HELD 12" brake kit which Archie installed. My car stops on a dime and hands you back change. Got 27k miles on it. If it fails tomorrow, do you think I should sue Archie? ...I mean, come on now... I paid for the work to be done, heck, I demanded it. He didn't do it as a favor. Also, parts fail over time...that's not an installation issue.
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Posts: 12331 From: Champaign, IL Registered: Aug 2003
If the offer is still available, I am willing to test one if I qualify. I just completed a brake upgrade to my daily driver ('87 GT) with the '90 Grand Am front calipers and rotors along with the '85 Seville rear calipers and '90 Grand Am rotors. I also increased the bore size of the master cylinder by going to the S10 master. Everything is working fine and I have about 1000 miles on the system so far. I do have a Mechanical Engineering Degree from Purdue University and have build my own car (the yellow IMSA in my signature). Let me know what specific information you would like and I will get it for you. Also.... I want to pay for the booster you send me. If you are uncomfortable with that, I will send you a check (or PayPal) after we know it works and you get your information.
Originally posted by R Runner: If the offer is still available, I am willing to test one if I qualify. I just completed a brake upgrade to my daily driver ('87 GT) with the '90 Grand Am front calipers and rotors along with the '85 Seville rear calipers and '90 Grand Am rotors. I also increased the bore size of the master cylinder by going to the S10 master. Everything is working fine and I have about 1000 miles on the system so far. I do have a Mechanical Engineering Degree from Purdue University and have build my own car (the yellow IMSA in my signature). Let me know what specific information you would like and I will get it for you. Also.... I want to pay for the booster you send me. If you are uncomfortable with that, I will send you a check (or PayPal) after we know it works and you get your information.
Send me your name and address and I can send you a test unit. email to rodney@rodneydickman.com If you can help verify what Paul is finding I would appreciate it. If you can see anything we may miss that would be helpful etc.
------------------ Rodney Dickman
Fiero Parts And Acc's Web Page: All new web page!:www.rodneydickman.com Rodney Dickman's Fiero accessories 7604 Treeview Drive Caledonia, WI 53108 Phone/Fax (262) 835-9575
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If you are still looking for people to try these out I would be interested, I have a mechanical engineering degree and work in the automotive industry
Send me your name and address and I can send you a test unit. email to rodney@rodneydickman.com If you can help verify what Paul is finding I would appreciate it. If you can see anything we may miss that would be helpful etc.
------------------ Rodney Dickman
Fiero Parts And Acc's Web Page: All new web page!:www.rodneydickman.com Rodney Dickman's Fiero accessories 7604 Treeview Drive Caledonia, WI 53108 Phone/Fax (262) 835-9575