Cliff I got a question, every time I load a page it has to check your server to see if the one in my local internet cache is not out of date. I have seen internet programs that will keep selected WebPages updated in a local folder that is not cache, now this would not save huge amounts of band width but for those of us that clear our cache each night we would not have to down load the same image over and over again. It would have to know where to look for the picture on the local drive and you could have updates to the cache that we could download every now and then. Sigs could be updated once a month and we could also email sigs to each other to update our own cache. Just a thought last thing I want to do is put more work on you. As much as I hate to say it but just like the art update that AOL use to make you down load. Wish I knew how to do things like that. I am but a cog in the machine. Thanks for the space Jake