!! Steve, he was the President of Yugoslavia, during the atrocities of the Balkans War..He was on trial at the Hague for War Crimes. Got the easy way out, I am afraid. Nick
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84fiero123 Member
Posts: 29950 From: farmington, maine usa Registered: Oct 2004
Just read an article on it. I see what you mean Nick. To bad he didn’t hang himself, nice slow strangulation. Now that would have been a just way for him to go.
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He's been there forever also. Took them long enough, to the point that he died. It isn't like there is a whole roster of people that tribunal has to judge. I guess that's Europeans for ya. Just whenever.
I wonder if they still will try him just for the record books.
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motoracer838 Member
Posts: 3751 From: Edgewater Co. USofA Registered: Jan 2006
His two top generals are still living as free men somewhere in Eastern Europe. On the news today I learned one new fact about the attrocities committed under SM, apparently he was also running concentration camps. And I though he just sent out death squads and killed anything other than ethnic albanians.
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Posts: 38226 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
It is funny to me because lately I have been thinking there must be a way to get some kind of human advancement going. I started thinking this because of my piss poor attitude towards our species in general. So I was thinking that douchebag Arafat and then Sharron both gone. Maybe this will lead to some change.
Maybe all the old school killers will die off one by one and the whole world will be wonderful. It could happen.
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htexans1 Member
Posts: 9114 From: Clear Lake City/Houston TX Registered: Sep 2001
I know only too well about SM. It was his tenure that costed me a year of my life in Kosovo as a peacekeeper....... S. Williams Many posters about this man are still posted around Kosovo.
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Raydar Member
Posts: 41056 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
I always try an answer questions if it is something I know because I am always asking questions myself and appreciate people taking the time to educate me.
But you are a moron.
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Patrick Member
Posts: 38226 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
STIFFLER let it go. Too many bleeding hearts on here. Plus if your beliefs differ from everyone else youre labeled a racist and a hate monger.
I love how people make up numbers, or claim to "know" so many "facts"
"The Final Solution" was created not only to be efficient but to minimize the trauma for German officers. Separating the men from the women, and then the children from the women, then to machine gun them all down in mass graves including the babies. That led to most German officers and troops to commit suicide. Yeah, they weren't human at all.
Demonizing Germans who were just doing their job is pretty pathetic. Unlike all those "American" soldiers who fled to Canada to avoid Nam and the Iraq war. What jokes they are.
sondercommando. Anyone familiar with this? I like how people forget about those "victims".
The point is Stiffler if you go against what "civilized society" says is right and wrong. You will be a racist, etc.
meine Loyalität ist meine Ehre
I guess Slobodan Milosevic’s troops were “just doing their job” as well.
We’re beginning to see what this guy, UDLOSE, is all about. Disgusting...
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Posts: 1085 From: Conroe, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2005
Originally posted by pokeyfiero: I always try an answer questions if it is something I know because I am always asking questions myself and appreciate people taking the time to educate me.
But you are a moron.
No, he's a person who asked an honest question. Neither of you have the right to flippantly make personal judgments regarding him. Nor, from what I've read of Pokeyfiero's posts, does Pokyfiero have the analytical capability to make an objective measure of his IQ, nor a quantative analysis based thereon.
I can conceive of the necessity for the demise of another, contrived or otherwise. (Break into my house, and ye shall meet flying lead, if needs be. Which, if luck shall have it, will be moving in the opposite direction of you and at high speed at the moment of inital contact). However, I cannot conceive of "joy" as an appropriate emotion at the demise of another human being, no matter how heinous. Sadness that he existed at all, I can understand. Relief that his personal evil no longer endures, I can understand. But "joy" that he is dead, when he was already under control? That's like finding "joy" in killing an ant. (Killing the ant may be necessary, but is hardly worthy of human ecstasy).
But to declare anyone who asks why you feel that "joy" a "moron" is to cross the line of decency. Not all who ask you do define your emotions, or your apparent need for dominance, represent lesser intelligences. Nor are you entitled to assume this to be the case.
So I join UDLOSE in asking: "Why all the preening?" It's not like you personally caused his death. It should be enough to say "There passed an evil person. He's gone. Humanity is better for it."
And be done.
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Patrick Member
Posts: 38226 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
from what I've read of Pokeyfiero's posts, does Pokyfiero have the analytical capability to make an objective measure of his IQ, nor a quantative analysis based thereon.
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Well my IQ is 141. I aint so smart this is true. But I don't claim to be and I ask much more than I tell. HE is a moron but I would rather listen to him than a self righteous preacher like yourself. You have made assumptions in your tirade.
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Posts: 1085 From: Conroe, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2005
If UDLOSE honestly wanted to know anything about Slobodan Milosevic, he could Google the name.
UDLOSE is just a dumbass trying to rock the boat.
Ah, then perhaps the question he asked was not the question he intended to ask, or the question you thought he asked. Had he asked, "Why was Slobo such a bad guy," I would have attributed it to ignorance. (As noted by a BBQ specialist (grade unknown) at RJ's* in Austin: "Ignorance you can hep'; Stupid goes right to the bone.")
But he didn't ask that question. He asked why others were happy at news of Slobo's death. I've read some of his other posts, and would not on that basis be prone to leap to his defense. But I don't base my judgments of people on this forum on their spelling or grammatical skills, or the degree to which their viewpoints diverge from mine. There are some awfully good mechanics here who can't spell to save their lives, and who don't think as I do. I've learned a lot about my car from those folks, though, by ignoring their otherwise debilitating failures at communicating in English. The fact that they happen to know a lot more about the car than I do strikes me as important. But I digress.
English is a very precise language.
UDLOSE (depite any other faults he may or may not have) asked a specific question: "Why are people so happy that XYZ is dead?", for which he was labelled a moron. I personally regard that specific response to that specific question offensive. As I said before, I can understand the necessity for causing another's death, but I cannot understand experiencing joy at the result.
If UDLOSE truely wants to take a moronic (or even merely ignorant) position, then he needs to learn to state it more precisely.
*Richard Jone's Pit BBQ for those of you uninitiates.
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Shyster Member
Posts: 1085 From: Conroe, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2005
Well my IQ is 141. I aint so smart this is true. But I don't claim to be and I ask much more than I tell. HE is a moron but I would rather listen to him than a self righteous preacher like yourself. You have made assumptions in your tirade.
Hmmm.....there's a difference between "analytical capabilty" and IQ. One is learned. The other provides a sometimes useful measure of the capacity to learn.
I doubtless have made assumptions in my "tirade;" we all do in our communications. But the tone of your response is that you think I have made "unjustified assumptions," which is another matter. Can you be more specific? If I have wronged you, I will apologize, but if we merely disagree, I will not, for I find no wrong in disagreement. If that makes me "self righteous," so be it.
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Posts: 1085 From: Conroe, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2005
Hmmm.....there's a difference between "analytical capabilty" and IQ. One is learned. The other provides a sometimes useful measure of the capacity to learn.
I doubtless have made assumptions in my "tirade;" we all do in our communications. But the tone of your response is that you think I have made "unjustified assumptions," which is another matter. Can you be more specific? If I have wronged you, I will apologize, but if we merely disagree, I will not, for I find no wrong in disagreement. If that makes me "self righteous," so be it.
I have little opinion of you as you are relatively new so don't worry about my feelings.
Back on topic... Has anyone read anything regarding the autopsy? My girlfriend read on yahoo news that they had diluted his meds over time but I can not find anything about that. It sucks that he didn't get through trial. I was hoping he would turn evidense against the rest of his cohorts. Many it seems our familiy.
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Posts: 1085 From: Conroe, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2005
I have little opinion of you as you are relatively new so don't worry about my feelings.
Back on topic... Has anyone read anything regarding the autopsy? My girlfriend read on yahoo news that they had diluted his meds over time but I can not find anything about that. It sucks that he didn't get through trial. I was hoping he would turn evidense against the rest of his cohorts. Many it seems our familiy.