I heard about this on the news, on the way to work this morning.

Apparently, in midtown Atlanta, there lives a retired Marine who owns (or at least closes up) one of the local businesses.
Last night after closing, as he was walking down the street, a car pulled up to the curb and five people (3 men and two women) jumped out to rob him. One of them had a shotgun.

The Marine kicked the shotgun out of the guy's hands. Then, armed with only his pocket knife, killed one of the attackers and put one of the others into the hospital in critical condition. The other three were arrested, later.

There will be no charges filed against the Marine.
The police made the statement that he actually did them a big favor. (Duh!)

The Marine did not wish to speak to the press, and even entered the police station through a back door, in order to maintain his privacy.

Every one of the robbers deserve to die. Scumbags!

Good the Marine remained uninjured.

That's putting his training to good use. I hope the survivors learned their lesson and pass it on.

No one ever said that criminals were intelligent. They'll most likely do it again or get the Marine's name and file some kind of rediculous charges.

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Here's an article on it: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/9290011/detail.html

"Thomas Autry, who is a former U.S. Marine, will not be charged since police say he was acting in self defense."

Semper Fi!

It's unfortunate, in a way, they gave his name. Knowing the US legal system these punks will be out on the street in nothing flat.
Creeps like these don't 'think' the way most of society does, hence the mugging in the first place, they have no Idea of the consequences of their actions or reprocusions. OK, they got their asses handed to them, but they will not even consider that their own actions caused them to get their butts whipped. All the other muggers they know didn't get thier asses whipped? There is something about this Marine that is a menace to their 'society', there fore it's probably OK, in their minds, to take out the guy that whupped their butts. They already have been known to carry wepons. Thomas Autry may be a marked man who needs to keep a low profile, or at the very least get a 'permit to carry'. I know this is not the way an orderly society should work, but these muggers don't think the way a normal member of society thinks! Just ask a cop or a judge. A Liberal would just blame the muggers deprived social upbringing. Myself I would treat these muggers no diferently than a rabid dog, they are too far gone to be healed by conventional medicine. Do animal control officers put rabid animals in a nice environment to let the animal live out it's time peacefully?
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Just to keep some perspective on this, it was a pregnant teenage girl who was killed.

He probably had a flash back of NAM and went insane ! Marines rule ! Does anyone know the story (or joke /tale) that goes kinda like this "1 marine is better than 10 iraqi soldiers" ?

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The last line of the article that Formula88 linked...

"Officials say Autry is extremely remorseful."

It also stated that he tried to run away. He didn't just "go off" on them.
It was only when he was met by lethal force that he returned the favor.

I certainly don't have any questions about the man's character or motivation.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: Just to keep some perspective on this, it was a pregnant teenage girl who was killed.

And do you beleive that she gave a damn about her unborn child?
Strike one, hanging with these creeps.
Strike two, getting out of the car.
Strike three, trying to subdue a marine who has a knife and is trained to use it.
Or maybe they needed the money for prenatal care?

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quote Originally posted by DtheC: And do you beleive that she gave a damn about her unborn child? Strike one, hanging with these creeps. Strike two, getting out of the car. Strike three, trying to subdue a marine who has a knife and is trained to use it. Or maybe they needed the money for prenatal care?

Why so defensive? I simply stated a fact from the above link.

Sorry if it wrecks the illusion of some 6'5" 350lb muscle-bound guy being handed his ass.

[EDIT] Since the news story in the link first posted by Formula88 has been updated and changed, I've supplied a copy of the original report in its entirety below:

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Midtown Rambo; Victim Fight Backs, Kills Robber

ATLANTA -- Five robbers picked the wrong victim in Midtown Atlanta last night and one of them paid with her life.

The victim, Thomas Autry, fought back; killing one robber and wounding another. Three other suspects are in jail.

Autry was walking to his girlfriend's home after getting off work as a waiter at Jocks and Jills.
The five suspects pulled up in a car and confronted the victim in the 500 block of Penn Street just before midnight.

Autry began running down the street yelling for help. Residents who heard him called 911. While he was running, Autry pulled a pocket knife from his backpack.

Two of the robbers jumped from the car. When one of the robbers pointed a shotgun at him, the Autry kicked it out of his hands.

At that point two of the robbers jumped on the victim. During the struggle he stabbed both of them. One, a teenaged female who has been identified as Amy Martin, died of her wounds. Officials say Martin was pregnant. A second is in critical condition.

Police arrived on the scene and with a description of the car; they quickly arrested the three other suspects.

Other suspects arrested were identified as Christopher Daniel, 19, of Atlanta; Kendall Barksdale, 18, of Atlanta; Christopher Hayes, 18, of Douglasville and a 16-year-old male juvenile. They will all be charged with aggravated assault and armed robbery.

Thomas Autry, who is a former U.S. Marine, will not be charged since police say he was acting in self defense. Officials say Autry is extremely remorseful.

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quote Originally posted by Patrick: Just to keep some perspective on this, it was a pregnant teenage girl who was killed.

Her fault for jumping him. Don't start none, don't get none.

Didn't the article say that she was 17 and two weeks pregnant, being that she was involved in this she would have probably had the child aborted by a doctor or aborted herself with drugs and drink, sad that she or anyone has to die but sometimes when you ask for trouble you find it.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: Why so defensive? I simply stated a fact from the above link. Sorry if it wrecks the illusion of some 6'5" 350lb muscle-bound guy being handed his ass.

Well, it does come across that you're trying to turn a criminal into a victim. Don't know if that is your intent, but that's how I interpreted it.

quote Originally posted by Fastback 86: Her fault for jumping him. Don't start none, don't get none.

I'm all for the Marine protecting himself. However, it seems unfortunate to me that as a "civilized" society we can so easily shrug off the stabbing death of a pregnant teenage girl. It's an ugly event from any angle.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: Just to keep some perspective on this, it was a pregnant teenage girl who was killed.

The only perspective that puts on it is that there were two victims here, Mr. Autry, who was able to defend himself, and the unborn child, who was not.

Given the circumstances, 5 against 1, they were armed, AND he tried to run away, I have no sympathy for that girl. It's a tragedy that she made her child a victim as well, but I wouldn't have expected Mr. Autry to act any differently whether or not she pregnant.

A shotgun is no less lethal when being pointed at you by a pregnant teenage girl or a 350lb 6'5" man.

quote Originally posted by GT86: ...but that's how I interpreted it.

Interpretations can be quite informative. Probably reveals more about the person reading the post than about the person who wrote it.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: I'm all for the Marine protecting himself. However, it seems unfortunate to me that as a "civilized" society we can so easily shrug off the stabbing death of a pregnant teenage girl. It's an ugly event from any angle.

It is indeed unfortunate, but I am more concerned with a "civilized" society that had pregnant teenage girls commiting armed robbery than how much pity and sympathy people have for this armed robber when she gets killed while attacking someone.

My sympathy goes out to Mr. Autry who has to live with the fact that he killed a pregnant teenage girl to protect his own life.
My sympathy goes out to the unborn life that was cut short because it's mother was a criminal.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: Interpretations can be quite informative. Probably reveals more about the person reading the post than about the person who wrote it.

Possibly. I do feel sorry for the unborn child, but I have no sympathy at all for the attackers in this case. They made their decisions, and the outcome of this incident is the direct result of those decisions.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: So now you're stating that the pregnant teenage girl who was stabbed to death was the one holding and pointing the shotgun? Please supply some evidence of this.

From TFA: "Two of the robbers jumped from the car. When one of the robbers pointed a shotgun at him, the Autry kicked it out of his hands.

At that point two of the robbers jumped on the victim. During the struggle he stabbed both of them. One, a teenaged female who has been identified as Amy Martin, died of her wounds. Officials say Martin was pregnant. A second is in critical condition."

So it would appear a male was holding the shotgun, and when it was kicked out of the attacker's hands, "two of the robbers" jumped the victim. I think it's safe to assume the other person of the two was the pregnant girl. When both of them jumped him, he defended himself. Period.

Perhaps I should have said, a shotgun is no less lethal when pointed at you with a pregnant teenage girl standing nearby?

Does it change anything? Does it make her actions or Mr. Autry's actions any more or less justified? If you have a point, make it.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: Just to keep some perspective on this, it was a pregnant teenage girl who was killed.

Good. Sounds like that 2 dirts bags our society won't have to support and be victimized by.

I sure hope to never see you showing support for abortion rights.

Just to keep this funny before it goes political.

One of our club members was at his home with wife and new baby. So he is living in one of those super protective of everything modes.

He hears his car alarm go off and see someone trying to break the steering column.

Well our club member just happened to be a New Zealand rugby player. (rugby is think, socker+mosh pit+hockey fight)

There were 2 guys, he was only able to catch one, but that one, wished he had chosen a new carrer path.

When the cops finally got there, (wife called them) He simply told the cops he must have tripped and hit his head, nose hand, arms and knees on the concrete.

The cops took the thief into custody. Probably ended up getting out in a day, but at least he will think twice about stealing a fiero.

I think we average about 10-12 fiero's in the club per year get stolen. Really sucks but only thing you can do is get a good alarm and club.

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quote Originally posted by Formula88: Does it change anything? Does it make her actions or Mr. Autry's actions any more or less justified? If you have a point, make it.

Yeah, put the gun in her hands, why don't you. Interesting how you tried to alter the news story a bit to more justify your position. I'm sure my point isn't lost on anyone who cares to see it.

It's unfortunate that anyone had to die. Much less it being an unborn child. However, Mr. Autry was defending himself. Man or woman, adult or child, he probably feared for his life. Sounds like they would have probably killed him had he not fought back. When they jumped him, Mr. Autry probably had no way of know who he was using his knife on. Much less know that the girl was pregnant. While I mourn the loss of life, I don't question Mr. Autry's actions one bit. Given the same circumstances, most of us would probably do the same thing.

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quote Originally posted by Patrick: Yeah, put the gun in her hands, why don't you. Interesting how you tried to alter the news story a bit to more justify your position. I'm sure my point isn't lost on anyone who cares to see it.

Actually MY point was it doesn't matter who's holding the gun, so your suppostion of any ulterior motives on my part is baseless and unfounded.

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quote Originally posted by Formula88: Actually MY point was it doesn't matter who's holding the gun, so your suppostion of any ulterior motives on my part is baseless and unfounded.

It just sounded so much cooler when you made it appear that the shotgun was in her hands, right?

quote Originally posted by Formula88: A shotgun is no less lethal when being pointed at you by a pregnant teenage girl or a 350lb 6'5" man.

Actually, the entire thread sounded better before you started trolling.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: I'm all for the Marine protecting himself. However, it seems unfortunate to me that as a "civilized" society we can so easily shrug off the stabbing death of a pregnant teenage girl. It's an ugly event from any angle.

You come from the false premise that this society is "civilized" which, clearly, it is not. Caviat emptor. The woman was trying to mug someone.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Actually, the entire thread sounded better before you started trolling.

Yeah, you tried to fabricate the facts and I'm the bad guy.

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quote Originally posted by Raydar: The Marine kicked the shotgun out of the guy's hands. Then, armed with only his pocket knife, killed one of the attackers and put one of the others into the hospital in critical condition. The other three were arrested, later.

Hmm...."The Few, The Proud [badass], The Marines." Yep, it seems everything is in order, hehe.

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quote Originally posted by Toddster: You come from the false premise that this society is "civilized" which, clearly, it is not.

You're right. How silly of me.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: Yeah, you tried to fabricate the facts and I'm the bad guy.

You're the one that attempted to paint one of the instigators as some sort of victim.

During this lull in the action, I'd just like to thank those responsible for all the negative ratings I've picked up in this thread.

I'd also like to mention though that not once did I criticize the Marine for doing what he did.

However, unlike some of you apparently, I didn't do any cartwheels upon hearing that a pregnant teenage girl died during this confrontation

Hey, if it makes you feel good, keep those negatives coming...

quote Originally posted by Patrick: Just to keep some perspective on this, it was a pregnant teenage girl who was killed.

So basically the girl threw the baby in front of a knive, so in essence she killed the baby, not the marine.

He had no clue she was pregnant.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: Interpretations can be quite informative. Probably reveals more about the person reading the post than about the person who wrote it.

Alright then, let's set my interpretations aside. Whose fault is it that this girl is dead?

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You guys just don't get it, do you? How many times do I have to repeat that I've not once criticized the Marine for doing what he did. My message all along has been that it's ugly and distressing (to say the least) that we have teenage girls (pregnant or otherwise) dying in the streets. Is this the kind of society we wish to be living in? It's not about who's right or wrong, it's about what a ****ed up world we're living in at the moment.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: I'm all for the Marine protecting himself. However, it seems unfortunate to me that as a "civilized" society we can so easily shrug off the stabbing death of a pregnant teenage girl. It's an ugly event from any angle.