So i was checking out my email today and an odd offer came across the table for my 87 GT (its been up for sale in CL for a couple months and i dont know how to take it down) I decided not to sell it but this trade Really has me thinking. its a baby blue 67 Ford Fairlane GT 390 thats in pretty good shape. No rust 4 on the floor. I did some research into it and i have to say, I really like it. I've always wanted to do up a 60's muscle car and from what I hear the fairlane is the best bang for your buck muscle car wise.

What are some of your thoughts on this.

Honest opinion?

You have too many unfinished projects, and a history of not finishing them. Clear the dust out on what you have, and go from there.

As far as trading. Why? The Fairlane is worth much less than your Fiero. The 67 is easy to come across, and wasn't really a looker, and doesn't have the resale value unless you can get a numbers matching, low mileage, all original specimen.

Brad

1967 Ford Fairlane GT:

quote Originally posted by twofatguys: Honest opinion? You have too many unfinished projects, and a history of not finishing them. Clear the dust out on what you have, and go from there. As far as trading. Why? The Fairlane is worth much less than your Fiero. The 67 is easy to come across, and wasn't really a looker, and doesn't have the resale value unless you can get a numbers matching, low mileage, all original specimen. Brad

From what i understand it is a numbers matching running and driving and i think they said it only has about 70K miles on it. the engine was rebuilt as well. I think there a pretty looking car. i also hear that the 390 model is a pretty ballsy model. It wouldn't be a project. From the way its described its an all ready to go car. I'll try driving it before i make my judgment.

And i wouldent say i dont finish my project's.. My 87 is more or less done except for the headliner. the only car i really quit on was my 1st 86 which i needed to get out of. And i am by no means anywhere close to quitting on the IMSA.

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Everyone is going to have their own opinion but, if I had an 87 Fiero and someone offeres me that trade for that 67 pictured, it would have already been done. Especially, if the car is rust free. That's just me. But, on the other side of the coin, I doubt I'd trade an 88 Fiero for the same deal. Maybe if the Ford owner came up with some cash.

The 390 wasn't really a muscle car engine but, it did have the cubes so, it would move the car right on down the road. That engine combined with a 4 speed was fun to drive though.

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Ron

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Get it! You can never have too many projects.

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: What are some of your thoughts on this.

You know, it is just a completely different experience. Small, light weight, low slung 2 seater with very good to excellent handling, and good power to weight ratio. Good gas mileage. Lots to like.

versus


Big engine '60's muscle car. Lots of low end torque. Not bad but not great handling. Great V8 engine sound. Poor gas mileage.


In my mind, you can't go wrong either way. Just a VERY different experience.


When weighing the opinions, it is hard for you to consider perspective. For guys like blackrams and I, the '60's muscle cars have a different meaning. Those are the cars that were around when we were growing up and driving. So they have a lot of attraction for us. For those of you in your 40's or less, it might not have that attraction for you because you didn't grow up with them.


Fun to have options like that.

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I'm not sure which Fiero you're selling, but a '67 Fairlane would be a cool ride.
I used to have a '68, and with mid-level trim (Fairlane 500) it was still quite nice.
With a 302 and an automatic, it wouldn't pull a cop out of a donut shop, but the 390 and 4 speed would have made it a lot of fun.

One thing... You'll be amazed at how huge it is, when you try to park it. (There's probably a joke in there, someplace.)

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Raydar
88 4.9 Formula IMSA Fastback

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quote Originally posted by frontal lobe: For guys like blackrams and I, the '60's muscle cars have a different meaning. Those are the cars that were around when we were growing up and driving. So they have a lot of attraction for us. For those of you in your 40's or less, it might not have that attraction for you because you didn't grow up with them. Fun to have options like that.

Hey, I just had my 39th birthday (again). Leave me out of this.

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Ron

I'm going to be meeting up with the guy later in the week to check it out. For thoes of you who dont know my 87 its the red one with the 355 nose on it. I dont really do much with it anymore so we'll see what happens. I'll still have the 2 84's so I'm not leaving the fiero world any time soon.

Go for it, I mean you won't keep it more than 3 months, so what's it matter?

Do you have a dealer's license yet? I don't know about PA, but in NC you can't buy and sell more than a certain number of cars per year without being a licensed dealer.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...45dE&feature=related

Get the Fairlane if you like it after seeing it in person. Then get another Fiero.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Do you have a dealer's license yet? I don't know about PA, but in NC you can't buy and sell more than a certain number of cars per year without being a licensed dealer.

That is only if he registers the cars in his name. Ive traded multiple vehicles during a year and never had a problem with the dmv and i paid only 20 bucks to get it titled in my name. No plates, nothing making it road legal. Try it sometime, You go to the service counter, explain that you just purchased a car and you are rebuilding it, don't anticipate it being road worthy in the next year or so and that you want to have it in your name for safety and legal purposes. Hand them a 20 (in WI at least) and walk away with a clear title in your name.

The value of a 67 Fairlane GT 390 matching numbers running non rust survivor should be around 8 - 10K depending on specific condition. I'd trade any Fiero I've ever owned for the described car.

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Dealing with failure is easy: work hard to improve. Success is also easy to handle: you've solved the wrong problem, work hard to improve.

quote Originally posted by Ramsespride: That is only if he registers the cars in his name. Ive traded multiple vehicles during a year and never had a problem with the dmv and i paid only 20 bucks to get it titled in my name. No plates, nothing making it road legal. Try it sometime, You go to the service counter, explain that you just purchased a car and you are rebuilding it, don't anticipate it being road worthy in the next year or so and that you want to have it in your name for safety and legal purposes. Hand them a 20 (in WI at least) and walk away with a clear title in your name.

I wish doing such things was so cheap here. Yeah you don't have to register a car when you title it but it's still horribly expensive.

Uhhh...Do it? Number matching basically means nothing unless its a Corvette, but this is one of my favorite muscle cars. If its in decent shape, it has a much higher value than any Fiero out there. Also, you've got too many Fiero's! Have some variety!....or gimme one

I've had plenty of huge boats... the thing to remember is that it's a lot easier to LIVE with a small Fiero, than it is to live with a huge and wide 60s car.

If your Fiero is but one of many of your "play cars" then it's not a big deal if the 60s car was just one of the ones you drive now and then.

But if I remember correctly, you don't have a garage, do you? Where are you going to keep it?


Are you still living at home? That should be your first priority... in 5 years, will you still be living at home? How old will you be then? If you're 30 years old, and you're still living at home... it's pretty much ruin for you. It's like gay sex... you're ruined for life... you can't ever say you never did it.

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Todd,
2008 Jeep Patriot Limited 4x2
2002 Ford Explorer Sport 2dr 4x2
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

Check it out well. But I would personally be very eager to look at that car. They are popular "affordable" hot rods on the west coast. If you get it, try to resist mode that would take away from being an original car. A car can be restored over and over, but it can only be original once. I hope that you can post pictures.

American Pickers picked one up (had been in storage for many years) for $7K,(survivor car) then put $4k into it for brakes, brake lines, wheel cylinders, clutch, carburator rebuild etc. The "appraisal value" for it was $14K, but the car still needed some body work and interior work. There was in original condition 390 4bbl engine and 4 speed manual in the car.

Depending on condition, it may be a good trade, but probably need work = $$$.

quote Originally posted by WhiteDevil88: Um, ok.

I chuckled but wonder where that thought came from?

quote Originally posted by Old Lar: American Pickers picked one up (had been in storage for many years) for $7K,(survivor car) then put $4k into it for brakes, brake lines, wheel cylinders, clutch, carburator rebuild etc. The "appraisal value" for it was $14K, but the car still needed some body work and interior work. There was in original condition 390 4bbl engine and 4 speed manual in the car. Depending on condition, it may be a good trade, but probably need work = $$$.

I saw that too. PK's car sounds exactly like it.

Maybe Mike wants to relive his high school years in a Fiero? LoL

ehhh, I had some drunk guy at the bar offer me $8,000 for my 87 GT one night. I said sure, he actually started writing out a check until his wife stopped him. Lesson of the story, if this Ford is worth more than the Fiero, trade it off. If you don't like the Ford once you get it (or get bored with it quickly), just sell it off and buy a nicer Fiero.

Buuuuuuuuut, in my opinion, I think you need a realistic daily driver car, not another "fun" car.

That poor Ford...

quote Originally posted by TommyRocker: That poor Ford...

Meaning?

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: What are some of your thoughts on this.

If the car is as good as you say, make the trade.
The car was underrated because the vast majority of them were GT-A (automatics), and the 4 speed top loader cars were apparently quite a bit faster.
So I would verify the pedigree, check the condition of the car, then if everything was kosher, I'd get it.

If the car is decent I would do it even if it wasn't numbers matching. I just think the Ford has a lot of neglect in its future...

Just to make your decision a bit harder , here's a nice 67. Good luck.

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Definately get the car. It is a really nice hot rod if you decide to do mods to it. I think that since you have the IMSA and the orange car, you can get rid of the red one. The red car was fun while it lasted but you have moved on to bigger and better things.

Points to ponder coming from a guy whose first car was a 1969 Mach 1 with the 390.

1. Seeing the video of engine compartment brought back wonderful memories. You can not easily change the spark plugs that are closet to the shock/strut towers. You will need to lift engine at a minimum. I changed when engine was re-built. Motor forever ran hot after re-build. Do you need to run leaded gas?

2. In it's day, it was considered a small car. By today's standard it is huge with a backseat that resembles a small hotel room. All your buddies will want to go crusing with it becuase of all this room. You get stuck with the gas bill. A friend of mine's son hass a 1966 Ford Galaxy 500 with the 390 and his buddies loved the leg room in back. It was the car they always took.

3. Larger....harder to park. Bigger target for drunk neighbors in white vans to hit.

This guy wanted to trade me a 65 mustang. LOL
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/078792.html

quote Originally posted by TommyRocker: If the car is decent I would do it even if it wasn't numbers matching. I just think the Ford has a lot of neglect in its future...

I would like to know how i neglect cars?

Well the first obvious question is how much are you wanting for your Fiero.

Ive been looking at Fairlanes myself to do a clone Thunderbolt. I found one about 50 miles from me with a fresh 427 4 spd and recent paint. Needs all the chrome mounted and complete interior (just has a dash, steering wheel and shifter). He wants $8000 for it. If you dont want the Fairlane, give me his number. Ones Ive been looking at bone stock are all around $10,000. To my taste, the 66-67 is the best looking one by far even though a lot like the 64 best.

American Pickers found a 67 Fairlane in a barn, rusted, and hadnt been driven in years. If I remember right, he paid $5000 on the spot for it as is and drug it out and on a trailer.

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Isn't your car collection big enough?

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You need another car like you need a lobotomy Although at this point I'm starting to wonder about the lobotomy

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A bottle in front of me is better than a frontal lobotomy. (World's best pun)

quote Originally posted by Hulki U. My-BFF: Isn't your car collection big enough?

Lol