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The fall of Detroit by avengador1
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Report this Post03-09-2011 03:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
A cautionary tale. I'm not sure if it has been posted before.
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The Fall of Detroit

(Frosty Wooldridge (born 1947) is a US journalist, writer, environmentalist, traveler)

By Frosty Wooldridge

For 15 years, from the mid 1970's to 1990, I worked in Detroit, Michigan. I watched it descend into the abyss of crime, debauchery, gun play, drugs, school truancy, car-jacking, gangs, and human depravity. I watched entire city blocks burned out. I watched graffiti explode on buildings, cars, trucks, buses, and school yards. Trash everywhere!

Detroiters walked through it, tossed more into it, and ignored it. Tens of thousands, and then hundreds of thousands today exist on federal welfare, free housing, and food stamps!

With Aid to Dependent Children, minority women birthed eight to 10, and in one case, one woman birthed 24 children as reported by the Detroit Free Press, all on American taxpayer dollars.

A new child meant a new car payment, new TV, and whatever mom wanted. I saw Lyndon Baines Johnson's 'Great Society' flourish in Detroit . If you give money for doing nothing, you will get more hands out taking money for doing nothing.

Mayor Coleman Young, perhaps the most corrupt mayor in America , outside of Richard Daley in Chicago , rode Detroit down to its knees... He set the benchmark for cronyism, incompetence, and arrogance. As a black man, he said, "I am the MFIC." The IC meant "in charge".

You can figure out the rest. Detroit became a majority black city with 67 percent African-Americans.

As a United Van Lines truck driver for my summer job from teaching math and science, I loaded hundreds of American families into my van for a new life in another city or state.

Detroit plummeted from 1.8 million citizens to 912,000 today. At the same time, legal and illegal immigrants converged on the city, so much so, that Muslims number over 300,000. Mexicans number 400,000 throughout Michigan , but most work in Detroit . As the whites moved out, the Muslims moved in.

As the crimes became more violent, the whites fled. Finally, unlawful Mexicans moved in at a torrid pace. Detroit suffers so much shoplifting that grocery stores no longer operate in many inner city locations. You could cut the racial tension in the air with a knife!

Detroit may be one of our best examples of multiculturalism: pure dislike, and total separation from America .

Today, you hear Muslim calls to worship over the city like a new American Baghdad with hundreds of Islamic mosques in Michigan , paid for by Saudi Arabia oil money. High school flunk out rates reached 76 percent last June, according to NBC's Brian Williams. Classrooms resemble more foreign countries than America . English? Few speak it! The city features a 50 percent illiteracy rate and growing.


Unemployment hit 28.9 percent in 2009 as the auto industry vacated the city. In Time Magazine's October 4, 2009, "The Tragedy of Detroit: How a great city fell, and how it can rise again," I choked on the writer's description of what happened. "If Detroit had been ravaged by a hurricane, and submerged by a ravenous flood, we'd know a lot more about it," said Daniel Okrent. "If drought, and carelessness had spread brush fires across the city, we'd see it on the evening news every night."

Earthquake, tornadoes, you name it, if natural disaster had devastated the city that was once the living proof of American prosperity, the rest of the country might take notice.

But Detroit , once our fourth largest city, now 11th, and slipping rapidly, has had no such luck. Its disaster has long been a slow unwinding that seemed to remove it from the rest of the country.

Even the death rattle that in the past year emanated from its signature industry brought more attention to the auto executives than to the people of the city, who had for so long been victimized by their dreadful decision making."

As Coleman Young's corruption brought the city to its knees, no amount of federal dollars could save the incredible payoffs, kick backs, and illegality permeating his administration. I witnessed the city's death from the seat of my 18-wheeler tractor trailer because I moved people out of every sector of decaying Detroit .

"By any quantifiable standard, the city is on life support. Detroit's treasury is $300 million short of the funds needed to provide the barest municipal services," Okrent said. "The school system, which six years ago was compelled by the teachers' union to reject a philanthropist's offer of $200 million to build 15 small, independent charter high schools, is in receivership. The murder rate is soaring, and 7 out of 10 remain unsolved. Three years after Katrina devastated New Orleans , unemployment in that city hit a peak of 11%. In Detroit , the unemployment rate is 28.9%.

That's worth spelling out: twenty-eight point nine percent." At the end of Okrent's report, and he will write a dozen more about Detroit, he said, "That's because the story of Detroit is not simply one of a great city's collapse, it's also about the erosion of the industries that helped build the country we know today. The ultimate fate of Detroit will reveal much about the character of America in the 21st century. If what was once the most prosperous manufacturing city in the nation has been brought to its knees, what does that say about our recent past? And if it can't find a way to get up, what does that say about our future?"

As you read in my book review of Chris Steiner's book, "$20 Per Gallon", the auto industry won't come back. Immigration will keep pouring more, and more uneducated third world immigrants from the Middle East into Detroit , thus creating a beachhead for Islamic hegemony in America . If 50 percent illiteracy continues, we will see more homegrown terrorists spawned out of the Muslim ghettos of Detroit. Illiteracy plus Islam equals walking human bombs.

You have already seen it in Madrid , Spain; London , England and Paris, France with train bombings, subway bombings and riots. As their numbers grow, so will their power to enact their barbaric Sharia Law that negates republican forms of government, first amendment rights, and subjugates women to the lowest rungs on the human ladder. We will see more honor killings by upset husbands, fathers, and brothers that demand subjugation by their daughters, sisters and wives. Muslims prefer beheadings of women to scare the hell out of any other members of their sect from straying. Multiculturalism: what a perfect method to kill our language, culture, country, and way of life.


"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed
lamb contesting the vote


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alot of truth in there

and - a funny closing line having significance is Wisconsin right now:
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed
lamb contesting the vote"

anyways - yes - the wefare system has in fact created a HUGE problem
as has shipping manufacturing to asia
Coleman Young - yes - basicly chased away any business that could run
Kwame Fitzpatrick - what a mess. but, he has gone to where his kind is welcome.
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Thanks for pointing out the limitations of Democracy.....

You can imagine how the rest of the State of Michigan is watching what is happening. If current trends continue, Grand Rapids may be the biggest city in Michigan in 10 years....pretty unbelievable.
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Detroit UE is still on my "to-do list"...

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I spent a lot of time working in Windsor from 06 to 09, and the truck traffic between the bridge and 401 was non-stop, bumper-to-bumper. Unless I specifically had a service call along that route, I took the back way into the city.

Last time I was there about 8 months ago, it was DESERTED...I'm driving down the road thinking where the F is the traffic?....I actually thought I had forgotten it was a holiday or something.

Nope--it was just the lack of traffic caused by the death of the auto industry.
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the people of the city, who had for so long been victimized by their dreadful decision making."
I really believe Detroit is now what all America will be if the vast majority of Americans don't stop buying Chinese just to save a few dollars, and don't start voting in new leadership, competent or not, with real integrity.
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Excellent video ShockWave.

I found the 2nd and 3rd parts....





See why I don't drive south of 8-mile Road?!

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Originally posted by Isolde:

the people of the city, who had for so long been victimized by their dreadful decision making."
I really believe Detroit is now what all America will be if the vast majority of Americans don't stop buying Chinese just to save a few dollars, and don't start voting in new leadership, competent or not, with real integrity.


Unfortunately, the people at the top who are raking in huge profits have made it nearly impossible not to buy imported goods. Get this, my 7th grade student didn't wear his new Nike's to school today because it was raining. He said they "peel" if they get too wet. At that price, we should be able to make those shoddy shoes here.

The problem is that political candidates from the two current parties are nothing but lackeys who have sold their souls to their parties in exchange for being put on the ballot. The last leader of integrity was Jimmy Carter(I'm saying this as a person who grew up in Illinois) and we know how well he did.
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Haven't people been fleeing from Detroit for decades? There are more issues going on than just the auto industry. The riots of 1967, for example, are often blamed for driving out a lot of people, and they came at a time when the auto industry was booming.

This thread is a deja-vu. Didn't we just discuss this a few months ago?
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Unfortunately, the people at the top who are raking in huge profits have made it nearly impossible not to buy imported goods. Get this, my 7th grade student didn't wear his new Nike's to school today because it was raining. He said they "peel" if they get too wet. At that price, we should be able to make those shoddy shoes here.



I agree but the consumer is also to blame, we buy those Nike's and other manufactured elsewhere items. Greed is a powerful motivator from rich to poor. Hell, I'm plenty guilty of buying the cheaper foreign crap myself. I try at times to buy local but the all mighty dollar sometimes trumps my good intentions.
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Detroit UE is still on my "to-do list"...



I'd go with you! Last time I was there with some friends I started wandering the city and well let's just say they're not so adventurous lol.
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Amazing.

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I wonder if the Google Maps van goes through these neighborhoods???
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Freddie Gibbs has some shots of Gary IN here that I know too well. I grew up real close by... Gary is smaller than Detroit, but likely not much less depressed.


"Ghost Town" Documentary:



Not even a nice place to drive through. GI was the per capita murder capitol of the world. Twice.
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