..I,ve waited for this to start being in the news,,with the new OBAMA/AYRES Democrat Moslem alliance,american blacks could care less,this has always puzzled me In the contested Sudanese areas the Moslems are killing as many Christians as possible,,there logic is NO CHRISTIANS HERE ,OUR LAND. THE MEDIA MOSTLY WILL IGNORE THIS , Fiero forum members are being step threaded cross screwed,good news for Dems, bad news for christians unarrned Nigerians are being slaughtered by Moslems armed by Islamic Goverment ,, they are P.O.ed that an honest election did not place Islamic sharia in Power,,so they are eliminating voters .Moslem cheating was horrendous but they still lost. I have fought this slithering murderous moslem scum.if you support the Palestinians,or other Islamic buffoons you have your head so deep in the sand its in your azz ,from Georgia to Morroco 2 sides to this story is a joke..
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Posts: 9712 From: Sacramento CA USA Registered: May 2003
Whether you believe in the Bible, or God, or Jesus, this is not in any way surprising, though terrible.
Actually this situation is part of the Book of Revelation, Chapter 6.
In the 5th seal, the Christian Martyrs, who dwell "under the throne" ask when Jesus will return. They are told that not all the Martyrs have been martyred yet, or words to that effect.
In the 7th seal, the great host of people dressed in white are described as having come out of great tribulation.
Later on in Revelation, those same Martyrs return to earth with Jesus to rule during the Millenium.
It is all part of what Christians call "the end times". I too am greatly distressed by this travesty, but, it is entirely part of prophesied events, and part of the calendar of events in the Bible.
There will not be any fairness on this issue until the return of Christ.
The slaughter of Christians has been ongoing for the full 20th century, and not only by Muslims. Also Communists and Fascists.
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Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
I wonder what response you'd get from a Sudanese Muslim who has murdered Christians when he's told by an American Muslim that he's not a "real" Muslim because of his acts of violence.
Some tribemen who are a mixture of Moslem ,christians,animist did not want to give up thier rifles,,they remembered the janja weed militia comming and killing them when they did not have guns.almost wipe them out..So the moslems brought in 15,000 troops with tanks..& once again started killing people 15,000?? Here is a case of genowipe out. This is close to the Dafur area same crap,, there is OIL revenue involved The good guys have rifles and rocket launchers so the Sudanese air force is bombing the crap out of them,.the good guys are rag tag but tough ,many of them Nomadic tribesmen.. Ive fought these clowns ,20 Navy fighter bombers would change the whole dynamic,,but aircraft launch would have to come from the Red sea ,danger for certain for any Carrier group. there is a lot of info on the African papers internet,,but you have to go thru a lot of articles to get the straight scoop,unfortunately,,a real mess , The MObslems use to just kill every one,they are real good at baby murder,but the African press is watching now,,I hate them all moslems are scum,wait till they get enough moslem slime here ..
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The Muslims are at it again. Sad to say, but, near all major religions subscribe to the same doctrine, intolerance. Our God is the only true God; follow him or else! Someday we’ll leave the middle ages behind and worship mankind and peace instead.
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Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
The Muslims are at it again. Sad to say, but, near all major religions subscribe to the same doctrine, intolerance. Our God is the only true God; follow him or else! Someday we’ll leave the middle ages behind and worship mankind and peace instead.
But how many are actively killing people in the name of their God?
Then you shouldn't have any trouble listing some, huh?
Got a link to the OP story?
A place called Yelwa comes to mind BTW as one example of more killing in the name of religion, seems a lot of people have been murdered in the name of God by many different religions even though we like to think it's just one. Keep the hate and fear alive though it's part of what perpetuates this garbage.
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The Yelwa massacre took place on May 2, 2004, in Yelwa, Nigeria. According to reports more than 630 Muslims were killed by Christians. Christian men and boys surrounded Yelwa and many were bare-chested; others wore shirts on which they’d reportedly pinned white name tags identifying them as members of the Christian Association of Nigeria, an umbrella organization founded in the 1970s to give Christians a collective and unified voice as strong as that of Muslims. Each tag had a number instead of a name: a code, it seemed, for identification. They attacked the town. According to Human Rights Watch, 660 Muslims were massacred over the course of the next two days, including the patients in the Al-Amin clinic. Twelve mosques and 300 houses went up in flames. Young girls were marched to a nearby Christian town and forced to eat pork and drink alcohol. Many were raped, and 50 were killed.
I mean no disrespect to those who follow, and I take no issue with spirituality or beliefs in a higher power - I guess you could say I consider myself a diest, I suppose... I have my own beliefs, but don't agree with the corruption that naturally manifests itself in a situation of control. The best intentions can still lead to a bad conclusion.
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Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
Speaking in a figurative manner, it's mostly 'spiritual' dick measuring::
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"my invisible bearded man in the sky can kick your invisible man in the sky's ass and I'll f'n prove it, too!"
Peace through superior firepower, I suppose. [Edit: I've pretty much accepted that we should expect the worst, hope for the best, and be pleasantly surprised if it lands somewhere in the middle.]
Maybe I've just become a major cynic in my young age
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A place called Yelwa comes to mind BTW as one example of more killing in the name of religion, seems a lot of people have been murdered in the name of God by many different religions even though we like to think it's just one. Keep the hate and fear alive though it's part of what perpetuates this garbage.
Here is a possible explanation (from rinselberg's link), and it may not be religion, or entirely religion:
"The origin of the conflict between the Christian Tarok and the Muslim Fulani is rooted in their competing claims over the fertile farmlands of Plateau state in central Nigeria."
Here is a possible explanation (from rinselberg's link), and it may not be religion, or entirely religion:
"The origin of the conflict between the Christian Tarok and the Muslim Fulani is rooted in their competing claims over the fertile farmlands of Plateau state in central Nigeria."
I would submit that most of these killings/massacres and so on have a "reasoning" behind them besides just religion. It's not usually the religion itself that promotes such violence but men and their own motivations and interpretations that do IMO. I would suspect that most of the violent and radical Muslims also have a "reason" why they hate the west that in reality has very little to do with God.
Got a link to the OP story?
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Originally posted by Arns85GT: The slaughter of Christians has been ongoing for the full 20th century, and not only by Muslims. Also Communists and Fascists.
Arn
Even Christians slaughter Christians... Ireland. WWI, WWII US Civil War, etc.