Retaining walls. Melanie does plant thing inside them. She lays them down and fills them with good soil and the tires black color absorbs the suns heat and she grows some amazing pumpkins and other thing in them.
Steve
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TXGOOD Member
Posts: 5410 From: Austin, Texas Registered: Feb 2006
Cliff, I haven`t had to dispose of tires even though the landfill close to me takes them, but I`ll tell you some of these places create litter bugs with their fees for stuff. I have a couple of window unit ACs and the recycling place wants 40.00 each to dispose of them. I would not dump them somewhere but that`s a lot of money to get rid of something you don`t need anymore. I think I only paid a couple hundred for them to begin with. Mike
I have a couple of window unit ACs and the recycling place wants 40.00 each to dispose of them. I would not dump them somewhere but that`s a lot of money to get rid of something you don`t need anymore.
Mike
Um, look around for scrap yards, heck put an ad on craigslist and sell them for scrap, have the guy pick them up for a few bucks each. There should be no reason to pay anyone to take anything. I know it happens (like weekly garbage and stuff), but for most things there is someone willing to pay something to take it, even old tires.
Did you know that most tires places (at least here) charge you a "disposal fee", and then a company comes along and BUYS the tires from them! They make money coming and going. The tires are ground up and put in all kinds of stuff.
Brad
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TXGOOD Member
Posts: 5410 From: Austin, Texas Registered: Feb 2006
The landfill I go to has a shredding machine right at their location. They have really gone up in price though the last couple of years. I used to dump my little 4x7 trailer for about 12.00 but now between the dump fee and having to rent this stupid little reflective vest to wear in the landfill it`s more like 35.00.
How many would ya like to have? How bout some large 1/4 or 3/8" thick rubber liners about 15' X15'? It is a very hefty fine if I were to burn even a single tire here, and I have a farm tax #. I have, in the last 4 years, disposed of about 400-500 tires, and a truckload of the rubber mats. Some were 18 wheeler tires, most were passenger car and light truck tires. Many still had the rims on them. In this, and the surrounding counties, the ONLY approved disposal method is to haul them to a tire recycler, which we did. passenger/lt truck tire--3 bucks fee. If the rim is on it-$4. 18 wheeler tires with no rim-$7. With rim-$8. If they are still on the wheel (rim) and are terribly dirty, it can cost as much as $9 ea. to dispose of. Large farm tractor tires, they wouldn't accept. The rubber mats, they charged by weight, and I don't recall right off how much it was, but was about $300 per 20' utility trailer load. We spent a LOT of $ to dispose of the tires properly. Coulda dug a hole and buried them all, but I did not want to take a chance on contaminating the ground water. On top of that, everyone i ever saw bury a tire had it somehow find it's way back to the surface eventually. I have no idea how my father ended up with all these things, but it was a mess to get rid of. I checked with every tire place around, and none wanted this many tires, so I had no choice but to take them to the recycler. Btw, my bushog will NOT handle running over a steel belted radial--makes a heck of a racket, as it throws it around inside the deck and eventually just gets wadded up in a big knot by the blades. I still have about 125 to get rid of.
Yep, the recyclers make a killing off them, as long as they can meet state and EPA standards on water quality regarding rainwater run off. They remove the rims, shred the tires, then sell the shredded material to a power plant in Louisiana for fuel. They then sell all the rims when the price of scrap metal is high enough. They will also sell to the public, shredded tires at $30/ton. I haven't bought any shredded rubber, as I haven't found a good use for the stuff. It won't stay on a roadway, and takes FOREVER to decompose on it's own. You can use it in the place of pea gravel for septic field line, but I am in a flood zone and had to go with an aerobic system.
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Posts: 8871 From: California.U.S.A. Registered: Dec 2002
Lots of places take them to shred for use on road repaving. Tire stores take them, but you have to pay. Other people just dump them in the car wash next door or in my dumpster. (If I catch them, I call cops who arrest them)
Originally posted by maryjane: Coulda dug a hole and buried them all, but I did not want to take a chance on contaminating the ground water.
Glad I asked. I am uphill from a creel just across the street. I did not think that possible and did think about using them for fill dirt to back fill an eventual retaining wall.
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Originally posted by maryjane: I haven't bought any shredded rubber, as I haven't found a good use for the stuff. It won't stay on a roadway, ....
I thought they used shredded rubber mixed with asphalt to pave some roads/fill in potholes.
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Originally posted by TXGOOD: I`ll tell you some of these places create litter bugs with their fees for stuff. I have a couple of window unit ACs and the recycling place wants 40.00 each to dispose of them. I would not dump them somewhere but that`s a lot of money to get rid of something you don`t need anymore. I think I only paid a couple hundred for them to begin with. Mike
I agree Mike. I hate litter bugs and almost want to believe a reason other than laziness or tightwads. Recently, I saw a couch and trash roadside dump. I went through the trash and found somewhat personal information which might identify the dumper. The police did not even want to look at it, as, someone else could have dumped it, :roplleyes:. The system is flawed. Today, it is Global Warming Climate Change (I bet with this La Nina heat wave they wish that they had kept the Global Warming moniker, ), yesterday it was the ozone layer which caused R-12 to be replaced by 134-A refrigerant, only to now find out that R-12 is not so bad after all. Heck, R-134-A is now almost as expensive as R-12.
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Originally posted by twofatguys: Did you know that most tires places (at least here) charge you a "disposal fee", and then a company comes along and BUYS the tires from them! They make money coming and going. Brad
I know and that's fracked up, . When I worked at an auto repair shop, entrepanuers used to come by and buy waste oil. I hear tell that, ... it's being advertised that they can make gasoline from waste oil. That it is a simpler procedure than using crude oil.
I thought they used shredded rubber mixed with asphalt to pave some roads/fill in potholes.
Don't know about potholes, but TxDot experimented with shredded tires up on I-40 a couple of decades ago and had poor results. For some reason, the moisture in freezing weather caused the experimental section to swell up and come apart worse than the regular asphalt.
If they would/could build rubber highways tho, we could make our own DIY cement tires.
"Plastic should be held in contact with the silage to keep air from moving under the plastic and coming into contact with the forage. This is often done with waste tires or tire sidewalls. The tires should touch each other to obtain good, uniform weighting. Soil or sandbags are often used to seal the plastic edges."
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Jul 26th, 2011
cliffw Member
Posts: 36751 From: Bandera, Texas, USA Registered: Jun 2003
my linky There is no appreciable risk in using recycled tires in the vegetable garden. While it is a fact that rubber tires do contain minute amounts of certain heavy metals, the compounds are tightly bonded within the actual rubber compound and do not leach into the soil. One of the ingredients in the rubber recipe is zinc. Zinc, in fact, is an essential plant element. I also expect that rubber is safer to use than treated lumber that contains copper and arsenic. Tires are durable. The very qualities that make them an environmental headache make them perfect for our uses in the garden. Once they are in place, they won’t rot and will likely be there for your grandchildren to use
. Gonna check with the city. I could need a lot of fill dirt. Not cheap nor easy to spread. Roll in place free tires, (heck I'll charge to take them ), make a lot of sense.
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Doug85GT Member
Posts: 9704 From: Sacramento CA USA Registered: May 2003