LOS ANGELES -- A criminal complaint against two new suspects describes in graphic detail the injuries suffered by a San Francisco Giants baseball team fan who was beaten nearly to death outside Dodger Stadium -- including cuts to the victim's face and tongue.
If convicted, Sanchez faces a maximum nine years in prison and Norwood faces a possible maximum eight-year term, according to the district attorney's office.
I'm having trouble equating this savage crime to just eight or nine years in prison--maximum. And is that going to be the actual time in prison--or just the literal sentence, with early release for good behavior in prison?
I'm surprised.. but it wouldn't surprise me if folks come on posting here, saying "It's California--so what else could you expect?"
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Posts: 32136 From: Covington, TN, USA Registered: Feb 2003
Originally posted by blackrams: It appears to a pretty visicous attack for what reason? Nine years? What the maximum one can get for the charges filed?
That's what surprises me. That--according to the district attorney--that the charges that are being filed are punishable by a maximum of (just) nine years--(just) eight years for the other defendant.
According to all reports, it was an unprovoked assault that left the victim hanging on to his life by a thread and has certainly disabled him (to a considerable degree) for life.
I'm no legal expert. I just anticipated that convictions in this case would bring a much harsher sentence than just eight or nine years in prison MAX. I guess I just don't know anything much about felony law in California.
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Doug85GT Member
Posts: 9706 From: Sacramento CA USA Registered: May 2003
They paralyzed him and cause severe brain damage. He will never be even close to who he was before. The cuts and bruises can heal. Losing an eye is very major but a person can still lead a mostly normal life with one eye. No amount of rehab or reconstructive surgery can fix his paralysis and brain damage. Nothing can give him close to the life he had before.
As far as I'm concerned, they murdered the person that he was. In cases like this where permanent paralysis or significant brain damage is inflicted, the maximum sentence should be much higher and closer to a murder charge.
My friend Sarah was murdered the weekend before thanksgiving in 99 by her boyfriend. HE stabbed her 41 time sI think, in front of her two children... One of which was his daughter. He only did 3 years and then he was out on parole!!
If it were up to me a violent crime would have a VERY fitting punishment.. When she stops being Dead, you can be free! My Justice is anything but fair in most cases.... Or even Justice in a lot of cases.
Why can't they get charged with attempted murder. This is wrong on so many levels.
On a side note. My cousin was murdered by her husband in 1982. He stabbed her 28 times and then decided to pour gas on her and torch her to, in his words, 'finish her off because she wouldn't stop screaming' he served around 20 years. Oh yeah...this was also done in front of their two young boys.
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WhiteDevil88 Member
Posts: 8518 From: Coastal California Registered: Mar 2007
Remember, this is the District Attorneys office that couldn't convict OJ or the Menendez bros. They will get off. The only way the victim has any hope of justice the trial needs to leave LA.
basically this guy got beat for being a white guy in a Giants jacket at Dodger stadium. He was the victim of a racially motivated attack, a hate crime. They need to face federal civil rights charges. I wonder in a year or so when Brian eventually succumbs from his coma if they can charge them with murder?
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Remember, this is the District Attorneys office that couldn't convict OJ or the Menendez bros. They will get off. The only way the victim has any hope of justice the trial needs to leave LA.
basically this guy got beat for being a white guy in a Giants jacket at Dodger stadium. He was the victim of a racially motivated attack, a hate crime. They need to face federal civil rights charges. I wonder in a year or so when Brian eventually succumbs from his coma if they can charge them with murder?
Yes, if he does die, they can be charged with murder.
In the big picture, the number of homicides goes down compared to the number of attempts every year because of medical technology. It is conceivable that in the far future where doctors could one day literally raise the dead that murder charges would be very rare except in cases where the body was badly decomposed or destroyed such as by fire or acid.
Most criminals if theyre good, get out in 1/2 there time. In Ohio, life was 9 years. Casey Anthony could have pleaded guilty to manslaughter and the max would have been 5 years (and she already served 3). So she could have just said,' ya i did it by accident ' and been out in another year anyway.
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For those who are interested: http://www.support4bryanstow.com/News-Updates Being that my wife is a former EMT, flew with Lifeflight and works in the ER, she is following this story like a hawk. The medical community wants to see these guys behind bars for a VERY long time.
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Doug85GT Member
Posts: 9706 From: Sacramento CA USA Registered: May 2003
They can't be charged with murder if they have already been convicted, or acquitted of a lessor crime for the same act. That is double jeopardy.
While true, in practical terms the victim usually dies in a hospital bed long before any trial completes in our backlogged court system. If they die any time before a jury give's its finding of guilt/innocence then a murder charge can be added.
They paralyzed him and cause severe brain damage. He will never be even close to who he was before. The cuts and bruises can heal. Losing an eye is very major but a person can still lead a mostly normal life with one eye. No amount of rehab or reconstructive surgery can fix his paralysis and brain damage. Nothing can give him close to the life he had before.
As far as I'm concerned, they murdered the person that he was. In cases like this where permanent paralysis or significant brain damage is inflicted, the maximum sentence should be much higher and closer to a murder charge.
Most criminals if theyre good, get out in 1/2 there time. In Ohio, life was 9 years. Casey Anthony could have pleaded guilty to manslaughter and the max would have been 5 years (and she already served 3). So she could have just said,' ya i did it by accident ' and been out in another year anyway.
And ruined her future life forever. Even acquitted, it will be bad enough for her now, but if you *admit* to something like that its pretty much over unless you find someone to hide you away and support you forever. ( assuming you live long enough in jail to get out... )
