I agree with JazzMan. Unfortunately, your only recourse is the ratings system. So you would either have to put up with it, or wage a campaign to have the person banned.
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Doug85GT Member
Posts: 9704 From: Sacramento CA USA Registered: May 2003
That person is not stalking me (I think).If you notice,I have not mentioned gender.I don't like this person and don't need them posting in threads I start.I consider this person to be one who fabricates facts to suit themselves.This person has called me names,questioned Cliff's integrity and called many people names because they didn't agree with that poster.
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Cliff Pennock Administrator
Posts: 11791 From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands Registered: Jan 99
That person is not stalking me (I think).If you notice,I have not mentioned gender.I don't like this person and don't need them posting in threads I start.I consider this person to be one who fabricates facts to suit themselves.This person has called me names,questioned Cliff's integrity and called many people names because they didn't agree with that poster.
You're going to have to narrow it down a bit. (I know it's not me since I don't believe I've ever posted in one of your threads)
Doug
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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: I really don't get it. If you dislike this place so much, why are you still here?
I don't dislike the place. And I figured you would be mature enough not to take it personally when I mentioned what I perceived as a flaw in the system.
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Pyrthian Member
Posts: 29569 From: Detroit, MI Registered: Jul 2002
Originally posted by Blacktree: I don't dislike the place. And I figured you would be mature enough not to take it personally when I mentioned what I perceived as a flaw in the system.
there was more than that.
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Originally posted by JazzMan: There's no ignore button like most other forums have, and the only moderator doesn't really moderate anything, so it looks like you're SOL...
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Originally posted by Blacktree: I agree with JazzMan. Unfortunately, your only recourse is the ratings system. So you would either have to put up with it, or wage a campaign to have the person banned.
while I am sure you didn't intend to agree with the "and the only moderator doesn't really moderate anything" - the text as posted says that.....so, you can see how that can be responded to as it was.
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htexans1 Member
Posts: 9114 From: Clear Lake City/Houston TX Registered: Sep 2001
Short of asking Mr Cliff Pennock, -- and since he already replied, so its a moot piont now. -- I dont see how your going to get satisfaction, short of leaving PFF.
Remember, This is Cliff's house. We are guests in that house, If Cliff says no, its final. Done. Finito.
I guess unless you ask cliff for an "iggy button" were not getting one. I feel no need for such a button, so I am not asking. lol
And I have to add:
"In before trash can." I am sure its coming. lol
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Cliff Pennock Administrator
Posts: 11791 From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands Registered: Jan 99
I don't dislike the place. And I figured you would be mature enough not to take it personally when I mentioned what I perceived as a flaw in the system.
So what's the flaw? That there's no ignore button "like most other forums have" (although for some odd reason, none of the forums I visit offer that option), or that according to you I don't do any moderation?
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And I figured you would be mature enough to not take it personal
WTF are you talking about? Please show me where I took this personal. "Mature enough"? Yeah, that was a real mature remark.
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Blacktree Member
Posts: 20770 From: Central Florida Registered: Dec 2001
I'm not interested in arguing. And it was not my intention to start an argument. I simply stated my opinion. And I honestly did not expect it to be so negatively received.
I guess this is what I get for associating myself with such a polarizing figure (JazzMan). Or maybe this is my penance for sitting in front of the computer instead of working on my Fiero today. In any case, I don't feel like digging the hole any deeper.
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Cliff Pennock Administrator
Posts: 11791 From: Zandvoort, The Netherlands Registered: Jan 99
You want him to babysit you? Do you feel that you can't handle your own problems?
hugh, just ignore whoever it is. You can't stop a poster from posting, and quite frankly I'm happy we can't do that.
You're correct, freedom of speech is paramount... and usually what makes Hugh's "troll" look like a douchebag anyhow. Every time he acts up, he slinks away for a while so everyone forgets his stupidity and does not neg him.
But he reappeared a few weeks back (thought I smelled something!) and is basically getting right back into the thick of it for now. Until he acts like a fool again and slinks off. I don't ignore him when I can insult him, its more fun.
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
You're correct, freedom of speech is paramount... and usually what makes Hugh's "troll" look like a douchebag anyhow. Every time he acts up, he slinks away for a while so everyone forgets his stupidity and does not neg him.
But he reappeared a few weeks back (thought I smelled something!) and is basically getting right back into the thick of it for now. Until he acts like a fool again and slinks off. I don't ignore him when I can insult him, its more fun.
I used the search feature and couldn't figure out who he was... but if this person really is acting up that badly, he could use a few negs. I hope nobody is getting blatantly insulted around here... I hate that.
EDIT: ^^Concerning him, not you. If someone is an ass, I am usually not one back, but won't say anything to the person who responds in kind.
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Originally posted by tbone42: You're correct, freedom of speech is paramount...
I agree, but we don't have that here. This is a private service, run in a different country.
Thankfully, Cliff agrees with the same basic concepts and it works out for all of us .. but its his house, his rules, and he has every right to change them if he wanted.
Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: You mean I didn't pick your side when you had problems with another member. And I didn't ban him just because you said so.
I asked if you could delete some really vile and filthy comments made by someone about me, and you made up some cockamamie story about leaving up so that I could sue the person at some point in the future. Well, the statute of limitations ran out on that years ago, I lost over $400 trying to get a judge to order him to remove it, and the comments are still up. I'll note that when someone posted something defamatory about your wife a few years ago you speedbanned the person within minutes and deleted what he said as well. Hypocrite.
My comments stand.
And I'll note that I never asked you to ban him. Your comment is erroneous.
All I have to say is, get bent.
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I asked if you could delete some really filthy comments made by someone about me, and you made up some cockamamie story about leaving up so that I could sue the person at some point in the future. Well, the statute of limitations ran out on that years ago, I lost over $400 trying to get a judge to order him to remove it, and the comments are still up. I'll note that when someone posted something defamatory about your wife a few years ago you speedbanned the person within minutes and deleted what he said as well. Hypocrite.
My comments stand.
All I have to say is, get bent.
Wow just walk in and pee on the floor
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WhiteDevil88 Member
Posts: 8518 From: Coastal California Registered: Mar 2007
I asked if you could delete some really vile and filthy comments made by someone about me, and you made up some cockamamie story about leaving up so that I could sue the person at some point in the future. Well, the statute of limitations ran out on that years ago, I lost over $400 trying to get a judge to order him to remove it, and the comments are still up. I'll note that when someone posted something defamatory about your wife a few years ago you speedbanned the person within minutes and deleted what he said as well. Hypocrite.
My comments stand.
And I'll note that I never asked you to ban him. Your comment is erroneous.
All I have to say is, get bent.
Wow. I've been banned for less then that. I gues the smiley makes it ok?
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Racingman24 Member
Posts: 2304 From: Land of 10,000 Idiots Registered: Apr 2003
Wow. I've been banned for less then that. I gues the smiley makes it ok?
No Sh!t.
Holy balls Jazzy. I mean, it's one thing to take a crap in someones house and not flush, but to pull down your pants and sh!t on the living room floor and walk away is just sad.
If it really was soooo long ago that even the statute of limitations ran out maybe it's time to let it go.
How's that saying go.... Get down off your cross, use it to build a bridge, and GET OVER IT.
If you're going to get your panties in a twist over what some people said over the internet, you have your priorities wrong. Yea, it sucks, and yea, some people might see truth in what the idiots and retards say on various forums, but the mature ones will know better.
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Hulki U. My-BFF Member
Posts: 5949 From: Back home in East Berlin, PA Registered: Apr 2008
Wow. I've been banned for less then that. I gues the smiley makes it ok?
For what, describing exactly the situation in truthful and non-spun terms, describing the outcome, my opinion on the subject in non-hostile terms? You'll note I didn't call Cliff Pennock anything, no names, no cursewords. In fact, everything I posted (and post as a general rule) is G-rated. I don't know Pennock as a person, but I do know his actions. I have the receipts, posts, and emails to back up every single word that I said here. That's not crapping or peeing on the floor, though some people that have a pretty strong dislike of me would try to characterize it that way. Those people can get bent as well, as their existence has exactly z-e-r-o bearing or meaning in my life. They could die tomorrow and I wouldn't know or care.
Cliff could do the right thing, in fact I literally begged him to, but was pretty soundly blown off. As long as those defamatory and libelous posts remain, I'll continue to feel exactly the same way. He is the -only- person on this planet who can delete them, and if as the moderator he chooses to do so then I'd be more than happy to stop feeling the way I do about him and the posts in question.
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carnut122 Member
Posts: 9122 From: Waleska, GA, USA Registered: Jan 2004
For what, describing exactly the situation in truthful and non-spun terms, describing the outcome, my opinion on the subject in non-hostile terms? You'll note I didn't call Cliff Pennock anything, no names, no cursewords. In fact, everything I posted (and post as a general rule) is G-rated. I don't know Pennock as a person, but I do know his actions. I have the receipts, posts, and emails to back up every single word that I said here. That's not crapping or peeing on the floor, though some people that have a pretty strong dislike of me would try to characterize it that way. Those people can get bent as well, as their existence has exactly z-e-r-o bearing or meaning in my life. They could die tomorrow and I wouldn't know or care.
Cliff could do the right thing, in fact I literally begged him to, but was pretty soundly blown off. As long as those defamatory and libelous posts remain, I'll continue to feel exactly the same way. He is the -only- person on this planet who can delete them, and if as the moderator he chooses to do so then I'd be more than happy to stop feeling the way I do about him and the posts in question.
Wow...This is Mr. Pennock's house and we abide by his rules. If you dispise this place so much why don't you leave? You could always start your own forum (with an ignore button)
Doug
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
You mean I didn't pick your side when you had problems with another member. And I didn't ban him just because you said so.
(I know it's not me since I don't believe I've ever posted in one of your threads)
